Wonder Woman (w/Gauntlets of Atlas) vs. WBH

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Originally posted by h1a8
She either lassos or at least tries to lasso an enemy 100% of the time when she has no other alternative. Also WW is fighting at her best as shown before and thus she WILL lasso if she can't defeat Hulk otherwise.

Now, 10x WW is stronger than WBH since normal WW has a feat of planetary power where WBH has a feat of planetary power as well. WW is also faster and more skilled and thus without the lasso she will win a majority.

HAHAHAHA WTH That's down BS you giving that kind of example lol Hulk is stronger if there is one thing im a fanboy at towards hulk is his strength

STRONGEST ONE THERE IS BABY!!!!!! 😠

Originally posted by Q99
Note that Diana regained the lasso later that story and it was whole and functional. So there was *something* going on.
So? She knows how to knit like a proper b1tch, then.

Originally posted by h1a8
She either lassos or at least tries to lasso an enemy 100% of the time when she has no other alternative. Also WW is fighting at her best as shown before and thus she WILL lasso if she can't defeat Hulk otherwise.

Now, 10x WW is stronger than WBH since normal WW has a feat of planetary power where WBH has a feat of planetary power as well. WW is also faster and more skilled and thus without the lasso she will win a majority.

What planetary fts does Wonder Woman have?

WBH wins hard. a 10x amp is nice and all but the WBH amp based on what weve seen in relation to the difference between hulk and former peers...is much much more than that. To go from going toe to toe with beings to vaporizing them as side effects of your strikes when your are hundreds of feet away from them....and not even making contact with the ground is way more than a 10x strength amp

Originally posted by carver9
She doesn't Lasso people entire body 90% of the time in comics and she won't do it here.
Actually she uses the lasso ALOT i mean more than 50% of the time

Has anyone ever resisted the lasso? If so.....

Originally posted by Stoic
Has anyone ever resisted the lasso? If so.....

Never, in my recollection. Except for that time in the Golden Perfect storyline, but I got slightly confused by it....

Originally posted by Stoic
Has anyone ever resisted the lasso? If so.....
Maybe once from what i can remember and recently in the reboot a god shrugged the lasso off easily

Originally posted by iceman24567
Maybe once from what i can remember and recently in the reboot a god shrugged the lasso off easily

Not sure if I recall right but didn't she use it own Konvikt?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Maybe once from what i can remember and recently in the reboot a god shrugged the lasso off easily

Are we using the reboot version?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are we using the reboot version?
I don't even know. I figured the rules say we use reboot Wonder Woman

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are we using the reboot version?

It's Classic Diana. Afaik, the Gauntlets haven't been reintroduced in the reboot.

Originally posted by Naija boy
WBH wins hard. a 10x amp is nice and all but the WBH amp based on what weve seen in relation to the difference between hulk and former peers...is much much more than that. To go from going toe to toe with beings to vaporizing them as side effects of your strikes when your are hundreds of feet away from them....and not even making contact with the ground is way more than a 10x strength amp
I disagree that the Hulk feat was due to Hulk's strength alone. Here are several things that make the feat weaker than what you think.

1. It was a shared feat. So Hulk supplied less than or equal to half the power need to achieve the feat.

2. It wasn't all the kinetic energy of the collision that did the feat but rather the gamma energy that was protruding out from both of them. The collision released the gamma energy that did the destruction. Note: Before the collision the gamma energy was shown to do damage to Hulk's surroundings earlier. Thus the feat is reduced to one where someone blasts a planet to destruction (ala Surfer).

3. It takes more force to lift a planet under its own weight that to destroyed it with one blow. I calculated that a normal WW at best was capable of exerting 1 Earth weight of force. 10x WW at best should be able to exert 10 Earth weights of force. Forces of this magnitude are sufficient in comboing Hulk to ko.

With that said,
Hulk is in character (CIS on) and only achieved that feat because of the wish. That means he would have never reached that level (if so he would have held back with it) under normal conditions, especially since this fight with a woman who he doesn't want to kill. Also WW at her best can avoid his strikes and either combo him to ko or lasso him for the instant win.

Pre reboot WW with the gauntlet wins in a stomp.

Originally posted by cdtm
Pre reboot WW with the gauntlet wins in a stomp.
Dude there a few slight errors in your post...

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree that the Hulk feat was due to Hulk's strength alone. Here are several things that make the feat weaker than what you think.

1. It was a shared feat. So Hulk supplied less than or equal to half the power need to achieve the feat.

2. It wasn't all the kinetic energy of the collision that did the feat but rather the gamma energy that was protruding out from both of them. The collision released the gamma energy that did the destruction. Note: Before the collision the gamma energy was shown to do damage to Hulk's surroundings earlier. Thus the feat is reduced to one where someone blasts a planet to destruction (ala Surfer).

3. It takes more force to lift a planet under its own weight that to destroyed it with one blow. I calculated that a normal WW at best was capable of exerting 1 Earth weight of force. 10x WW at best should be able to exert 10 Earth weights of force. Forces of this magnitude are sufficient in comboing Hulk to ko.

With that said,
Hulk is in character (CIS on) and only achieved that feat because of the wish. That means he would have never reached that level (if so he would have held back with it) under normal conditions, especially since this fight with a woman who he doesn't want to kill. Also WW at her best can avoid his strikes and either combo him to ko or lasso him for the instant win.

1. You really don't know how a Red Hulk's power works do you? If not let me tell you. Ross and Betty begin at a decent strength base which is near, equal, or perhaps even greater than Thor, Hercules, Hyperion etc. They are most certainly class 100 beings.

2. Now here's the good part, please pay attention Red Hulk's don't increase their strength as they get angry, like Banner does, in order for a Red Hulk to increase their level of strength they need to "siphon" <--- (Key Word) ambient energy from their opponent as was such in Betty's case. Ross, is different. Ross can only siphon Gamma rays from an opponent, this happened after he fought Omegex, giving him the depowering that so many people were waiting on.

3. Red Hulk's heat up when they get angry, they also heat up when they siphon ambient energy from an opponent or ally, which gives them a boost. However there is a "finite" <--(Key Word) amount of energy that they can siphon before they begin to suffer a "meltdown" <--(Key Word), you still with me?

4. The power that Banner was putting off exceeded not only Betty's capacity, but if Ross were there, he too would have overheated. The reason why Betty did not overheat was because of the power of the Wishing Well, which allowed her to keep pace with Banner.

5. It wasn't as much of a shared feat as you believe. Hulk supplied the juice, and Betty latched onto it. The Wishing Well didn't change who Betty was, or how her powers work. Betty may not have contributed more than 5% of the feat under her own power, this was mostly a Banner feat. Anything other than that would ignore how a Red Hulk's power operates.

6. No one believes that you calculated anything btw, and even if you did the Hulk was so pumped that the Guys assaulting him would have slapped Diana's boobs off alone. Do you want to dismiss the way that the Hulk handled Wendigo and Bi-Beast when they were augmented 1000x their normal stats? And he still wasn't pouring it on yet, he was still on earth at that time.

7. What about barely noticing them punching the hell out of him? When has Diana done all of this? How's about this, why don't you go and calculate how many earth weights the Hulk was operating on in order to make any Diana strength feat look like child's play.

Hulkie Boy gets spanked and tied up.

still an interesting fight.

lol i remember why h1a8 is on ignore now. heh, hulks feat was a blatig feat. uhuh..smh anyway, Hulk wins comfortably

Originally posted by Naija boy
lol i remember why h1a8 is on ignore now. heh, hulks feat was a blatig feat. uhuh..smh anyway, Hulk wins comfortably

How can Hulk win comfortable if
1. She lassos him
2. Combos him to ko while he is a statue
3. Avoid his attacks b/c he is a statue and she is highly skilled
?

Originally posted by Stoic
1. You really don't know how a Red Hulk's power works do you? If not let me tell you. Ross and Betty begin at a decent strength base which is near, equal, or perhaps even greater than Thor, Hercules, Hyperion etc. They are most certainly class 100 beings.

2. Now here's the good part, please pay attention Red Hulk's don't increase their strength as they get angry, like Banner does, in order for a Red Hulk to increase their level of strength they need to "siphon" <--- (Key Word) ambient energy from their opponent as was such in Betty's case. Ross, is different. Ross can only siphon Gamma rays from an opponent, this happened after he fought Omegex, giving him the depowering that so many people were waiting on.

3. Red Hulk's heat up when they get angry, they also heat up when they siphon ambient energy from an opponent or ally, which gives them a boost. However there is a "finite" <--(Key Word) amount of energy that they can siphon before they begin to suffer a "meltdown" <--(Key Word), you still with me?

4. The power that Banner was putting off exceeded not only Betty's capacity, but if Ross were there, he too would have overheated. The reason why Betty did not overheat was because of the power of the Wishing Well, which allowed her to keep pace with Banner.

5. It wasn't as much of a shared feat as you believe. Hulk supplied the juice, and Betty latched onto it. The Wishing Well didn't change who Betty was, or how her powers work. Betty may not have contributed more than 5% of the feat under her own power, this was mostly a Banner feat. Anything other than that would ignore how a Red Hulk's power operates.

False, it was the power of the wish that made her powerful and not her draining Hulk. And Red Hulk can drain more than Gamma energy, he can drain the OF, cosmic power, etc.


6. No one believes that you calculated anything btw, and even if you did the Hulk was so pumped that the Guys assaulting him would have slapped Diana's boobs off alone. Do you want to dismiss the way that the Hulk handled Wendigo and Bi-Beast when they were augmented 1000x their normal stats? And he still wasn't pouring it on yet, he was still on earth at that time.
Math doesn't lie. So it is irrelevant who believes it or not. The Hulk feat was nothing more than a being doing an omnidirectional blast combined with strength. The gamma energy inside Hulk was released upon the collision. A 1000x Wendigo or Bi-Beast are still far under planetary power. Do you know how much an Earth weight of force is? If Normal Wendigo can lift 1 million tons (I disagree) then 1000x times that is only 1billion tons. This is astronomical dust compared to an Earth weight. Lastly, it seem Bi Beast and Wendigo wasn't 1000x size when they struck Hulk in the face in the end (where Hulk didn't flinch much).

7. What about barely noticing them punching the hell out of him? When has Diana done all of this? How's about this, why don't you go and calculate how many earth weights the Hulk was operating on in order to make any Diana strength feat look like child's play.
Superman or WW at their best are still far stronger than 1000x Wendigo or Bi Beast. It takes more force the destroy a planet with a single shot than it takes to lift one. So at best Hulk showed half the energy required to one shot a planet and not actually lift one.

Not only would Hulk be a statue to Diana but she could win by yawning and simply lassoing him (even if you don't accept her comboing him to ko).