Originally posted by -Pr-
He wasn't serious.
Ah, whoops! Hey I had no idea that forum rules seperated Sentry from Void... you do know that they are one and the same though. It's like saying that a schizo that manifests different personalities are two different people and yet they inhabit the same body. I think that rule should be considered to be overturned, but that's just me.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not referring to Void...I'm referring to the Sentry that stalemated Genis, the Sentry that beat Terrax with one hand and broke his ax like he was snapping a tooth pick. Everyone on the forum have different opinions of the character.
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Yes, they do... Yours are just wrong.
Originally posted by Stoic
Ah, whoops! Hey I had no idea that forum rules seperated Sentry from Void... you do know that they are one and the same though. It's like saying that a schizo that manifests different personalities are two different people and yet they inhabit the same body. I think that rule should be considered to be overturned, but that's just me.
Bada and I went over it at length, and we felt it was best given the wildly inconsistent nature of his showings.
Originally posted by Stoic
Ah, whoops! Hey I had no idea that forum rules seperated Sentry from Void... you do know that they are one and the same though. It's like saying that a schizo that manifests different personalities are two different people and yet they inhabit the same body. I think that rule should be considered to be overturned, but that's just me.
We differentiate from various Hulk personas and we consider Fernus separate from Martian Manhunter, so I don't see why we wouldn't do the same for Void and Sentry.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo, it's clearly his showing against Thor but only reinforced against the Hulk.
Your reasoning for Sentry being above Thor is A, B, C, revolving around the Hulk. I know for a fact that you would be against such application if it suit you, hence my comments. That type of reasoning can be used to favor me like whoa.For the record, Thor smacked away Sentry during Siege. I think it's pretty obvious that the two are direct peers in power unless you start tapping into the exotic shit like the Void or the God Blast.
The Void is the Sentry and vice versa. You can give Thor his best and it can't beat him. It's ok he was powerful they had to kill him off.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it's clearly his showing against Thor but only reinforced against the Hulk.The Void is the Sentry and vice versa. You can give Thor his best and it can't beat him. It's ok he was powerful they had to kill him off.
Lol @ the backtracking. You made your reasoning extremely clear, you attributed the superiority to the ABC reasoning. I gave you a chance to shut your mouth, should have just taken it. And what showing against Thor? Failing to take him down solo?
The Void is noticeably beyond the Void in power sans Mighty Avengers and onward. Siege itself specifically showed the different levels they have. Also, board rules.
Originally posted by cdtmand then you factor in hulk not putting anything near his all into fighting the juggernaut....
Yeah, this. Thor's strength is about on Juggernauts level, give or take, and we saw how Juggs did against WWH. And he's a much better fighter, as we saw when he nearly beat Juggernaut to death.It won't be easy, but Thor wins after a long, hard fight. With ease.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo, it shows a writer's opinion of a lower end sentry in comparison to a higher end Hulk. Sentry has fared better against the baddest Hulk up to that point that Thor has ever taken on solo which is relevant.
Lol @ the backtracking. You made your reasoning extremely clear, you attributed the superiority to the ABC reasoning. I gave you a chance to shut your mouth, should have just taken it. And what showing against Thor? Failing to take him down solo?The Void is noticeably beyond the Void in power sans Mighty Avengers and onward. Siege itself specifically showed the different levels they have. Also, board rules.
Siege.
The Void was working through the Sentry MM showing so if you want to stick to non Siege feats that's his absolute best which is beyond Thor.
Originally posted by carver9
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh016.jpgPower of a million exploding suns. Stated on panel.
You don't think Sentry can damage a skyfather if he was inside of one?
LOL! O... M.... G!!
So, such on panel statments aren't good enough for Thor but its good enough for Sentry...
The double standards is strong in you
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm referring to Thor punking the Sentry and Bendis making it clear that the Dark Avengers had to go in hard and fast, giving it their best to take out Thor (Probably because if Thor has a chance to fight back after taking their measure, they'd screwed). How can you disagree? Based on what in that scene led you to believe Sentry could take a high majority over Thor. That wasn't Sentry, that was an almost fully manifested Void. Frankly, Thor did a lot better in that situation than Savage Hulk did.In what way is it superior? You're saying shit without any support.
Thor's physically stronger than Sentry. *Posts irrelevant scan of Thor taking on an impressive opponent*
Also, when did it say the planet was about to be destroyed? Curious.
Lol...Thor would have died against Void worse than what Savage Hulk went through if Void pressed his attack. Thor was helpless during this scene... http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/thorsentry1.jpg/ ... Coughing up blood. Void let Thor go to lay waste to Asgard.
I will get the scan where it was stated the planet was in jeopardy.
One sec.
This wasn't the only time it was referenced during the fight.
Here is the first. It was stated again as well during this fight.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85For once I agree with this dude,His very right and the word "Worth" is the key cause really Sentry can definatly give a energy output worth of a million explodings but not literally the range of how a million exploding suns will spread,and actually same goes for Hulk I mean he was born from a gamma bomb right? Now how does a gamma bomb of course plus a warp core breech give a monster power to destroy multiple planets the best he should do is destroy one planet but who cares Hulk Is Strongest One There Is anyway and it has meaning!!!
How do we know these million exploding suns were regular sized? Has it suddenly become a unit of measurement in Marvel? If we do take their word for it (ref. Carvers scans), that there were a million suns' worth of energy being outputted, how large are these suns? They could be tiny ones.
ALL HAIL TO THE GAMMA FATHER!!!
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How do we know these million exploding suns were regular sized? Has it suddenly become a unit of measurement in Marvel? If we do take their word for it (ref. Carvers scans), that there were a million suns' worth of energy being outputted, how large are these suns? They could be tiny ones.
It does seem as though people are downplaying the Sentry that fought Hulk because the planet never exploded, what kind of logic is this?
Does his power really have to actually resemble a million suns exploding for you to grasp the intent? Cumon bro. It's clearly hyperbole, what we know is his power is devastating and he has a vast amount of power in which to call upon which is backed-up by his showings.
It does seem as though people are downplaying the Sentry that fought Hulk because the planet never exploded, what kind of logic is this?
Here's what I am trying to say.
In the HotM storyline, the Hulk mowed through his opponents' left, right and centre. Nobody argues with that. He's legitimately more powerful.
In the Fear Itself Uncanny X-men tie-in, Kuurth mowed through everything Cyclops threw at him, and it was a clear display of his power.
In the Hulk vs Dracula storyline, however, even though the vampires state that the Hulk is much more powerful than he has ever been (or words to that effect), what we actually saw of Nuul-Hulk contradicts this. So, I am actually with carver, in that this Nuul-Hulk was weaker than the GammaFather. Using the same logic (character narration vs what is actually being shown on panel), the Sentry that fought WWH wasn't all that powerful.
