Hiding who you were at birth Right or Wrong?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Sex not consented to at the time = rape

"Unwanted sex is not rape. Especially not retroactively unwanted sex.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So if a girl gets pregnant and regrets it then she didn't want to have that particular sex, therefore it was rape?

Calm down. 😆

I was clearly illustrating the path that such reasoning leads to.

If you start your reasoning out as such and then use a faulty "connector", then you end up stating things like "the set of all unwanted sex = rape" which is CLEARLY not true. This is why it is posed as a question, not a statement.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Possibly, too charged of a an example as well. I'll pick a different one.

But lets pick a more concrete alternate example. I tell a woman I'm an fireman and she has sex with me because of that (I'm not really an fireman). Is that rape? How about if I promise to marry her? If I'm secretly a Nazi and she doesn't want to have sex with Nazis?

People lie or selectively reveal things about themselves in order to have sex all the time.

Yes, this was more along my point and why I ended in a question: I thought of "guy lies about being of such and such profession and gets laid because of it" ALSO being in the set of "unwanted sex."

Originally posted by inimalist
A person who is a female-to-male transgendered individual is a male for all intents and purposes, especially in how they see themselves.

Well...for most intents and purposes. There are multiple ways that they are not "male", still. I prefer the term "transexual" and that still only gets rid of one or two of the ways (their privates and chest) they are still not male (you sort of touched on this, earlier). hormone therapy+ surgery combo for best results? Still not enough: there are still multiple ways they are still male. It's hard to get rid of what your DNA gave you in a very complete manner. For that, I hope future medicine can provide a more perfect relief.

Originally posted by Stoic
Don't pick my words, read the post, and if you have a problem reading and understanding the English language, I will be willing to help you understand. Then again I believe that you could use an online dictionary, it's free. Just don't put words in my mouth that I never wrote to make yourself appear to be standing on some high moral plateau. Did you understand that, or should I explain it in a way that you can?

That's pretty rich seeing as you have indeed only posted in extremely unclear ways and in that very post seemed to query inimalist's perfectly reasonable use of the word 'vet'.

As you don't seem to want to open up the debate at all, I am concluding that this is indeed pretty much just you bashing on homosexuality.

Thread closed, and please be more reasonable when opening threads in future.