Originally posted by srankmissingnin😂
No he did. We see what a full on slash attack from an that amped Wolverine does to Colossus in that very issue only a few pages later.
Point out to me where it is remotely alluded to that it was a glancing blow:
I see Hellverine charging. I see Colossus standing there. I see Hellverine DIRECTLY slash Colossus. I see it NO damage dealt to Colossus whatsoever.
After Hellverine struck him full-on, Colossus grabs him and throws him out of the building. Hellverine comes back and proceeds to cut Colossus. I could see you arguing that Hellverine was simply exerting himself MORE during "round 2", but to call his initial attack a "glancing blow" when it CLEARLY was NOT, is hysterical.
The other scans you posted don't prove anything... They are simply unfounded character statements. I recall an instance in which Wolverine (in the Danger Room) killed all of the X-Men (inc. Colossus.) But then he exits and remarks that he isn't sure how reliable that simulation was, as he didn't know if he could pierce Colossus's hide in RL. That is no different then the other 'proof' you posted, which is why I would never use it as such.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i don't see logan cutting CS and i don't see him cutting superman either....
Because Superman and CS > Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, am I right???
Originally posted by Merlyn
😂Point out to me where it is remotely alluded to that it was a glancing blow:
I see Hellverine charging. I see Colossus standing there. I see Hellverine DIRECTLY slash Colossus. I see it NO damage dealt to Colossus whatsoever.After Hellverine struck him full-on, Colossus grabs him and throws him out of the building. Hellverine comes back and proceeds to cut Colossus. I could see you arguing that Hellverine was simply exerting himself MORE during "round 2", but to call his initial attack a "glancing blow" when it CLEARLY was NOT, is hysterical.
The other scans you posted don't prove anything... They are simply unfounded character statements. I recall an instance in which Wolverine (in the Danger Room) killed all of the X-Men (inc. Colossus.) But then he exits and remarks that he isn't sure how reliable that simulation was, as he didn't know if he could pierce Colossus's hide in RL. That is no different then the other 'proof' you posted, that is why I would never use it as such.
I just showed you where it was alluded to. The example needs to be viewed with in the context of the issue it was in. In the issue Wolverine was shown to have no trouble cutting up Colossus, several times. Colossus can't be impenetrable to Wolverine's claws, while at the same time get cut up by him like a turkey. Those are about as mutual exclusive as two things can possible be. So what is the most obvious reason for Wolverine failing to cut Colossus in the initial exchange? He only landed a glancing blow. A comic book trope as old as time itself, saving streets from bricks and bricks from Wolverine since the dawn of the Marvel Age.
Originally posted by leonidasAgreed. I wasn't aware of Colossus no-selling Hellverine's first attack. If he is capable of doing that, then the FAR more durable CS would almost surely laugh off baseline Wolvie's attacks, imo.
yeah, i don't see logan cutting CS and i don't see him cutting superman either....
Originally posted by srankmissingninWas this the same Thanos /w/ IG that was also staggered by Iron Man:
Because Superman and CS > Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, am I right???
Um... Your point is duly noted..? 😕
Originally posted by srankmissingninI can't agree. The scan I posted speaks for itself. Colossus CLEARLY tanked a full-on slash from Hellverine... But was pierced by his subsequent slashes, which were concentrated in the same general quadrant of his body.
Because Superman and CS > Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, am I right???I just showed you where it was alluded to. The example needs to be viewed with in the context of the issue it was in. In the issue Wolverine was shown to have no trouble cutting up Colossus, several times. Colossus can't be impenetrable to Wolverine's claws, while at the same time get cut up by him like a turkey. Those are about as mutual exclusive as two things can possible be. So what is the most obvious reason for Wolverine failing to cut Colossus in the initial exchange? He only landed a glancing blow. A comic book trope as old as time itself, saving streets from bricks and bricks from Wolverine since the dawn of the Marvel Age.
Not a whole lot different than punches in that respect. For instance, one punch from Orion might not hurt Superman... But 4, 5, 6 punches in roughly the same area would almost certainly hurt Supes.
Originally posted by Merlyn
I can't agree. The scan I posted speaks for itself. Colossus CLEARLY tanked a full-on slash from Hellverine... But was pierced by his subsequent slashes, which were concentrated in the same general quadrant of his body.Not a whole lot different than punches in that respect. For instance, one punch from Orion might not hurt Superman... But 4, 5, 6 punches in roughly the same area would almost certainly hurt Supes.
The scan doesn't show Colossus clearly doing anything. It shows Wolverine prior to the attack, and then Wolverine afterward in his fallow through with some sparks flying... and then the rest of the issue shows Wolverine cut him up with out any effort. The moment Wolverine comes back from being tossed he draws blood with his first slash on Colossus. It's not like he is cutting the same area over and over again like an exato knife, each new blow draws blood and the trail of the claws are clearly shown. It's not like he just scratched at him like a loto ticket until something got through, each of his individual attacks penetrated in clean straight lines.
Originally posted by Galan007
Agreed. I wasn't aware of Colossus no-selling Hellverine's first attack. If he is capable of doing that, then the FAR more durable CS would almost surely laugh off baseline Wolvie's attacks, imo.Was this the same Thanos /w/ IG that was also staggered by Iron Man:
Um... Your point is duly noted..? 😕
Nothing is even happening in most of those scans... why even post the first four?
Originally posted by srankmissingninYou made it a point to mention Wolverine piercing Thanos "/w/ IG" as though it made the feat more uber. While it is impressive, I felt like I should mention all the other low-level characters who were able to give him pause. 🙂
Nothing is even happening in most of those scans... why even post the first four?
Originally posted by srankmissingninComics are meant to be taken LITERALLY. So when Colossus is shown tanking Hellverine's first slash, without ANY direct evidence (not srank's opinion) that it was a glancing blow, then THAT is the context it was intended. This is FACT.
Because it was a glancing blow. 😉In the context of the entire issue there is no room for it to be anything but.
It was only AFTER Hellverine got b*tchslapped by Colossus and thrown out of the building, that he came back and began to pierce Colossus's hide... Which is why you could make a case that Hellverine was trying HARDER in "round 2" then he did at first... But Colossus, still, very blatantly, TANKED the first slash outright. It is pretty clear IMO, but I'm not surprised you're arguing with it. 😎
Either way, what Hellverine can do is not indicative of what base Wolverine can do (as Hellverine is stronger/faster/etc.) So for the purposes of this thread, it's a moot point anyway...
Originally posted by Galan007
You made it a point to mention Wolverine piercing Thanos "/w/ IG" as though it made the feat more uber. While it is impressive, I felt like I should mention all the other low-level characters who were able to give him pause. 🙂
I guess... but most of these guys didn't give him pause, the merely hit him to little effect. /shrug
Originally posted by Merlyn
Comics are meant to be taken LITERALLY. So when Colossus is shown tanking Hellverine's first slash, without ANY direct evidence (not srank's opinion) that it was a glancing blow, then THAT is the context it was intended. This is FACT.It was only AFTER Hellverine got b*tchslapped by Colossus and thrown out of the building, that he came back and began to pierce Colossus's hide... Which is why you could make a case that Hellverine was trying HARDER in "round 2" then he did at first... But Colossus, still, very blatantly, TANKED the first slash outright. It is pretty clear IMO, but I'm not surprised you're arguing with it. 😎
Either way, what Hellverine can do is not indicative of what base Wolverine can do (as Hellverine is stronger/faster/etc.) So for the purposes of this thread, it's a moot point anyway...
What are you talking about? It's a comic book. It's meet to be view in its entirety not dissected panel by panel, where each panel stands on its own. If that was the only part of the fight that occurred, you might have a leg to stand on... but it wasn't. That panel doesn't exist in a bubble, it was in a comic where Wolverine routinely was displayed cutting up Colossus. THAT is the context in which it was delivered. Wanting to look at that one isolated panel and pretend it stands on its own is the opposite of looking at the feat in context it was delivered.
Trying harder? Because Demonerine was known for his restraint and subtlety. He thought, "Maybe I shouldn't actually try here!" and then changed his mind instantly. Please. He barely connect with a glancing blow that did nothing, then spent the rest of the issue cutting up Colossus like a board house wife cuts up coupons.
Maybe you should go back to watching DBZ? This is too difficult for you, I think.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because Superman and CS > Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, am I right???
sure, that's a possibility. or, you know, kal's invulnerabilty could simply work differently than thanos' and CS's skin may simply be harder than thanos'. don't really see any evidence that the IG made thanos's skin tougher, but by all means do feel free to prove it. of just show some scans of non-magical weapons piercing superman. or CS. 😉
Originally posted by leonidas
sure, that's a possibility. or, you know, kal's invulnerabilty could simply work differently than thanos' and CS's skin may simply be harder than thanos'. don't really see any evidence that the IG made thanos's skin tougher, but by all means do feel free to prove it. of just show some scans of non-magical weapons piercing superman. or CS. 😉
Equus. 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingninIn my experience people who begin to throw out insults in their posts, are usually the ones who are wrong and know it.
Maybe you should go back to watching DBZ? This is too difficult for you, I think.
Mr Master, GS, quanchi, Nihilst... They all do the same thing you just did. Don't be them. Just because your rationale doesn't make any sort of sense in this case (not just with me apparently), it doesn't mean you need to sink to these levels.
Capiche?
Originally posted by leonidasNaw, cudent bea! durno
sure, that's a possibility. or, you know, kal's invulnerabilty could simply work differently than thanos' and CS's skin may simply be harder than thanos'. don't really see any evidence that the IG made thanos's skin tougher, but by all means do feel free to prove it. of just show some scans of non-magical weapons piercing superman. or CS. 😉
