Thor VS Wolverine (With No Super Powers)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Is Thor depowered or mortal? You'd think it doesn't make a difference but to gods it does apparently.

A mortal Thor is basically peak human (Possibly on par with Captain America) while incredibly skilled. Depowered, he loses his godly strength but can still hit with devastating force. Probably like class 20 or so. I'd have to double check to be entirely sure.

no, no, no. for this fight, completely depowered means just that. there's no class 20 punches here. this is thor as a mortal.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"Stop hitting thyself."

Originally posted by wildernesss
no, no, no. for this fight, completely depowered means just that. there's no class 20 punches here. this is thor as a mortal.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why are you referencing bone claw Wolverine in this thread?

because bone claws logan is not much (if at all) stronger than a powerless, yet trained, logan. yet, bone claws logan has smashed
sabretooth down using strictly h2h, no claws, while taking barely any damage.

that kind of grappling requires strength on a comparative level to a FULLY powered sabretooth. a depowered mortal thor is not as strong as sabretooth.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You're better off arguing Logan's skill advantage is what beats Thor, not Thor's body being impossible for him to use effectively.

Captain America seems to be of the opinion that even without Mjolnir and his powers, Thor is still something impressive to behold.

Also this idea that Sabretooth is much stronger than Thor depowered makes no sense.

With zero powers I don't see Thor winning, Wolverine has to many showings to counter a "human" type thor winning.

Originally posted by wildernesss
because bone claws logan is not much (if at all) stronger than a powerless, yet trained, logan. yet, bone claws logan has smashed
sabretooth down using strictly h2h, no claws, while taking barely any damage.

Stop using Bone claw, he has CRAZY regen he isn't applicable to this.

Originally posted by wildernesss
because bone claws logan is not much (if at all) stronger than a powerless, yet trained, logan. yet, bone claws logan has smashed
sabretooth down using strictly h2h, no claws, while taking barely any damage.

that kind of grappling requires strength on a comparative level to a FULLY powered sabretooth. a depowered mortal thor is not as strong as sabretooth.

Just how strong do you think powerless Wolverine is?

Originally posted by snowdragon
Stop using Bone claw, he has CRAZY regen he isn't applicable to this.

try reading my post; bone claws logan didn't even USE his regen when beating sabretooth down on occassion......using strictly h2h. no claws.

Originally posted by wildernesss
try reading my post; logan didn't even USE his regen when beating
sabretooth down on occassion......using strictly h2h. no claws.

You do know his regen is passive.

Mostly Sabertooth wins lets agree to find something different to create cohesion here cuz beindg "feral" in a fight isn't going to happen.

He can't choose to use regen or not. That's the whole point.

Originally posted by wildernesss
because bone claws logan is not much (if at all) stronger than a powerless, yet trained, logan. yet, bone claws logan has smashed
sabretooth down using strictly h2h, no claws, while taking barely any damage.

Even Wolverine's non Adamantium bones are more durable than regular humans and he has a healing factor (Had a huge boost at the time) which reinforces some of his physical stats including his strength. Extreme strain without injury and all that.

I even remember him lifting a car and owning a grizzly bear in a fist fight during the bone claw period. Comparing him to a regular human in strength is pretty ridiculous imo.

Logan walking around with an extra 100 pounds on him constantly alone should give you a clue.

Wolverine strength and speed aren't technically a super power, but merely a byproduct his healing factor's ability to instantly repair muscle damage, so his muscles heal stronger and harder then before. Disabling his healing factor won't decrease his strength or his speed instantly, but over time his body would slowly regulate itself back to a more reasonable level to do muscle atrophy and it being impossible for someone without a healing factor to maintain that physic. That being said I assume both of them are nurfed to peak human for the sake of the thread.

Wolverine wins. Easily. Duh.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just how strong do you think powerless Wolverine is?

undetermined, but very, very, very high. somewhere around Batman's peak strength feats or beyond.

logan, with NO powers whatsoever was able to stay conscious while literally a near walking skeleton with most of his skin melted off; AND with advanced adamantium poisoning. all the while mr sinister was blasting him & logan wouldn't stop. this is one of his best non-powered feats, but by no means the only one. this suggests that logan's "strength" goes beyond the physical & that there is a spiritual or metaphysical component that exsists beyond his mere powers.

Originally posted by wildernesss
undetermined, but very, very, very high. somewhere around Batman's peak strength feats or beyond.

logan, with NO powers whatsoever was able to stay conscious while literally a near walking skeleton with most of his skin melted off; AND with advanced adamantium poisoning. all the while mr sinister was blasting him & logan wouldn't stop. this is one of his best non-powered feats, but by no means the only one. this suggests that logan's "strength" goes beyond the physical & that there is a spiritual or metaphysical component that exsists beyond his mere powers.

Even with his powers gone and a debilitating heart condition in Age of X Logan was able to fight all blasted up and full of shrapnel. He's got heart and he is too legit to quit.

Lol @ bringing metaphysical/spiritual in a thread with Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol @ bringing metaphysical/spiritual in a thread with Thor.

Wolverine is more of a god than Thor is.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Even with his powers gone and a debilitating heart condition in Age of X Logan was able to fight all blasted up and full of shrapnel. He's got heart and he is too legit to quit.

Age of X is canon?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Age of X is canon?

Yes. Did you not see how it ended?

I suppose the question is does anyone think Thor is above Wolverine in a straight up street match, nothing else.

Fist to fist no powers?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol @ bringing metaphysical/spiritual in a thread with Thor.

immortal logan gets a free pass from death courtesy of jean grey & the phoenix force; only after fighting the angel of death, who he never lost to.

thor who?