Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, w/o Adamantium, Wolverine weighs around 195....Thor weighs around 640.That is a 445lb difference.
That is the old handbook weight of classic Wolverine from when he was 5'6 and svelte. Now he is a 5'3 mini Hulk with biceps the size of his waist.
Thor weighs 640 because of his muscle density, if he was depowered he would lose that as well and be baseline human. At 6'6 built the way he is we are looking at something around 265-300lbs.
Without adamantium, wolverine weighs, what, 200 lbs?
at 5'3", 200 lbs is extraordinarily heavy. He won't carry the weight well, he will be slow as shit, and he'll gas quicker than a 6'7" ~330 lb Thor--which is not a bad weight for a guy that big.
It would be vaguely like Brock Lesnar vs an extremely bloated Demetrius Johnson. And the skill difference is comparable too, as well as the size. Brock would not lose, and neither would Thor.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That is the old handbook weight of classic Wolverine from when he was 5'6 and svelte. Now he is a 5'3 mini Hulk with biceps the size of his waist.Thor weighs 640 because of his muscle density, if he was depowered he would lose that as well and be baseline human. At 6'6 built the way he is we are looking at something around 265-300lbs.
If handbook info can't be used for Wolverine, then you can't use handbook info against Thor, that leaves us with Thor being drawn substantially larger and more muscular then Logan.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If handbook info can't be used for Wolverine, then you can't use handbook info against Thor, that leaves us with Thor being drawn substantially larger and more muscular then Logan.
I have been ignoring the handbook data for Thor, it's irrelevant to this thread since he is powerless and therefor no longer has the added muscle density that increases his weight. All we can do is estimate his weight based on his body type and height, which would place him some where around 265 - 300 lbs. Wolverine based on his body type and height is some where around 220 - 245 lbs.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I have been ignoring the handbook data for Thor, it's irrelevant to this thread since he is powerless and therefor no longer has the added muscle density that increases his weight. All we can do is estimate his weight based on his body type and height, which would place him some where around 265 - 300 lbs. Wolverine based on his body type and height is some where around 220 - 245 lbs.
Thor is drawn much taller and larger than Logan, there is no way he only outweighs Logan by 45-55lbs.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Without adamantium, wolverine weighs, what, 200 lbs?at 5'3", 200 lbs is extraordinarily heavy. He won't carry the weight well, he will be slow as shit, and he'll gas quicker than a 6'7" ~330 lb Thor--which is not a bad weight for a guy that big.
It would be vaguely like Brock Lesnar vs an extremely bloated Demetrius Johnson. And the skill difference is comparable too, as well as the size. Brock would not lose, and neither would Thor.
It be more like if you took Brock Lesnar's insane gorilla body and compressed him down in 5'3 frame and had him fight Forrest Griffin. Wolverine is a big, big dude, he just isn't tall.
Wolverine's depiction varies greatly from artist to artist (maybe more than any character) sometimes he looks like 6'2 probably around 220lbs movie Wolverine, sometimes he is 5'3 but just jacked, and sometimes he is somewhere in the middle.
There's a foot and some change height difference between the two, and even build wise, they are fairly comparable with the same artstyle.
At equal heights they would weigh close to the same if humanized.
A 6'6" wolverine would weigh ~1.9 times heavier than a 5'3" wolverine, assuming identical build, so yeah, there is going to be a HUGE weight difference between Thor and Wolverine.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor is drawn much taller and larger than Logan, there is no way he only outweighs Logan by 45-55lbs.
He is drawn much taller than Logan, he isn't drawn much larger. Thor is drawn like Captain America a few inches taller. Wolverine is drawn like the Hulk a few feet shorter. Wolverine is jacked man.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He is drawn much taller than Logan, he isn't drawn much larger. Thor is drawn like Captain America a few inches taller. Wolverine is drawn like the Hulk a few feet shorter. Wolverine is jacked man.
The only one I remember being hulk like was Adam Kubert drawing the feral Wolverine.
Originally posted by CosmicCometThere's a foot and some change height difference between the two, and even build wise, they are fairly comparable with the same artstyle.
At equal heights they would weigh close to the same if humanized.
A 6'6" wolverine would weigh ~1.9 times heavier than a 5'3" wolverine, assuming identical build, so yeah, there is going to be a HUGE weight difference between Thor and Wolverine.
That is the classic Wolverine handbook character sheets we were already talking about, its not indicative of current incarnation of the character. Just look at the differences in body type of Wolverine and Thor when they are drawn by Bachalo, Bradshaw, Madureira, Ramos, or McGuinness. Wolverine has the same frame as the Hulk in a smaller package. Thor as the same frame of Superman.
Originally posted by Blight
Where is this hulk Wolverine you're talking about?The only one I remember being hulk like was Adam Kubert drawing the feral Wolverine.
Kubert and Garney draw a more reasonably proportioned Wolverine, but even he is stockier than they typical Thor. Any Wolverine drawn by Bachalo, Bradshaw, Madureira, Ramos, or McGuinness.
Did the threadmaker really know what they were getting into with this thread? No powers means no powers.
So it's Logan - 5"3, around 300 lbs. & a century of fighting experience - versus Thor - 6"6, 640 lbs. and thousands of years of fighting experience.
How long does Wolverine keep fighting without a healing factor? He's not used to it.
Thor wins.
Originally posted by roughrider
Did the threadmaker really know what they were getting into with this thread? No powers means no powers.So it's Logan - 5"3, around 300 lbs. & a century of fighting experience - versus Thor - 6"6, 640 lbs. and thousands of years of fighting experience.
How long does Wolverine keep fighting without a healing factor? He's not used to it.
Thor wins.
Seeing as he has complete memories of Age of X and HoM, Wolverine technically has 3 centuries of fight experience. Plus an unspecified amount of time travel for LL&l. Plus he was stranded in another dimension for an unspecified amount of time that was long enough to become their messiah and be worshiped as a god. Plus he was trained for decades by Ogun who through mystical means can impart a life time of training in minutes. Plus he is the constantly reincarnating version of an ancient warrior known as the the left hand of god.
Even if experience mattered in comics, Thor doesn't have enough of it to compete with Wolverine. And sans healing factor Wolverine has still taken blasts from Sinister and kept coming, and fought through bullet wounds and being impaled on steel rebar. He is much, much, much, MUCH, more skilled than Thor and has better damage soak. Thor has no chance of winning.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I love this, Wolverine fans can't even admit that Thor is drawn larger and taller.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because he isn't, I don't blame you for not know that though, you don't even read major X events so I can scarcely imagine how limited you Wolverine and X-Men knowledge must be.
See what I mean?