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Lord Mar-vell vs Thor....
Thor is in True Warriors Madness (x10 strength), has equipped his Belt of Strength (x2 strength; x20 strength at this point), and has equipped his Asgardian Battle Armor (significantly increases his durability)...
How does Lord Mar-vell fare against Thor under these conditions?
Fight to the Death or KO...no BFR.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?
Based on him doing nothing overly impressive.
If memory serves...
He was hurt by Nova
Beat up Nova a little
Hurt by Surfer
Broke Surfer's board (Surfer nearly instantly remade it anyways)
Beat up Nova some more, then left.
That's it. I still don't see what's all that impressive about him. Thor would have easily done all of those things. Hell, amped Thor probably would have one shot Nova the way unamped Thor one shot Angrir. Mar-vell didn't manage that.
Originally posted by CogitoHe wasn't hurt at all by Nova or the Surfer he treated them like minor annoyances and easily destroyed Surfer's board. He also oneshotted Magus to death by mistake.
Based on him doing nothing overly impressive.If memory serves...
He was hurt by Nova
Beat up Nova a little
Hurt by Surfer
Broke Surfer's board (Surfer nearly instantly remade it anyways)
Beat up Nova some more, then left.That's it. I still don't see what's all that impressive about him. Thor would have easily done all of those things. Hell, amped Thor probably would have one shot Nova the way unamped Thor one shot Angrir. Mar-vell didn't manage that.
Thor just recently couldn't even best a holding back Surfer let alone treat him like a minor annoyance. All of asgard was threatened and the guy needed space armor to take him on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't hurt at all by Nova or the Surfer he treated them like minor annoyances and easily destroyed Surfer's board. He also oneshotted Magus to death by mistake.Thor just recently couldn't even best a holding back Surfer let alone treat him like a minor annoyance. All of asgard was threatened and the guy needed space armor to take him on.
The situation with Thor and Surfer doesnt apply here at all; this version of Thor would one-shot Surfer with ease...
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't hurt at all by Nova or the Surfer
Originally posted by quanchi112
he treated them like minor annoyances and easily destroyed Surfer's board. He also oneshotted Magus to death by mistake.
He treated Nova like a nuissance, sure. Nova's not all that impressive though. Other than breaking Surfer's board, he didn't hurt Surfer any more than Surfer hurt him.
As for Magus, he didn't try to defend himself at all and we don't really know much about how powerful he was. So big deal, Mar-vell one shot Magus. Unamped Thor one shot Angrir. It happens, I'm not impressed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor just recently couldn't even best a holding back Surfer let alone treat him like a minor annoyance. All of asgard was threatened and the guy needed space armor to take him on.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The situation with Thor and Surfer doesnt apply here at all; this version of Thor would one-shot Surfer with ease...
Don't push it.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderBased on which Thor showings ?
The situation with Thor and Surfer doesnt apply here at all; this version of Thor would one-shot Surfer with ease...
Originally posted by CogitoThey didn't really do anything him to him either while the World Mind clearly states shields on full power. Knocking him back with a speed burst and attacking him without him taking them seriously proves my point.He treated Nova like a nuissance, sure. Nova's not all that impressive though. Other than breaking Surfer's board, he didn't hurt Surfer any more than Surfer hurt him.
As for Magus, he didn't try to defend himself at all and we don't really know much about how powerful he was. So big deal, Mar-vell one shot Magus. Unamped Thor one shot Angrir. It happens, I'm not impressed.
Can you stop making stuff up like that Surfer was holding back? Where was that ever said? It's not even relevant, as this is a much more amped Thor.
Don't push it.
Magus was very impressive while weakened so oneshotting him is impressive. Thor couldn't even best the Surfer and took him very seriously unlike Mar-vell.
Surfer was trying to talk him down in typical Surfer fashion. Surfer rarely goes all out. Refer to me then which Thor showings are relevant as pertaining to this thread ?
Originally posted by bbrem123
to be honest that scan just shows how he was not hurt by either at all...he is talk trash while being hit
No doubt he wasn't significantly hurt at all. But neither was Surfer, who had essentially the same reaction to being hit.
Nova was definitely hurt worse than Surfer though. Even Nova wasn't all that close to being KO'd and kept fighting through the series
@Quanchi
Based on Blood and Thunder; Thor wasnt even in true Warriors Madness (and didnt have the Power Gem) and one-shot-KO'ed Surfer into a planet...in Surfers own comic (Blood and Thunder #2 if I remember correctly).
This version of Thor is far stronger than the version that KO'ed Surfer sans the Power Gem...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Magus was very impressive while weakened so oneshotting him is impressive.
If he could have done it, wouldn't Mar-vell have one shot Nova or Surfer? Or at least knocked them out?
Instead he did relatively little damage. Nova was totally fine afterwords, and you couldn't even tell Surfer had fought.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSurfer has changed since then all for the better and recently went up against Thor who was trying to defeat him yet was unable to do so. That Surfer isn't 'as formidable as him post Galactus change. So it is irrelevant.
@QuanchiBased on Blood and Thunder; Thor wasnt even in true Warriors Madness (and didnt have the Power Gem) and one-shot-KO'ed Surfer into a planet...in Surfers own comic (Blood and Thunder #2 if I remember correctly).
This version of Thor is far stronger than the version that KO'ed Surfer sans the Power Gem...
Originally posted by CogitoHe wasn't taking them seriously and in comics despite villains being far more powerful that doesn't mean they kill everyone in their path hence our versus matchups where heroes come to die.
If he could have done it, wouldn't Mar-vell have one shot Nova or Surfer? Or at least knocked them out?Instead he did relatively little damage. Nova was totally fine afterwords, and you couldn't even tell Surfer had fought.