Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Of course they have it. The point is not who has it but who controls it. They HID it in the worldtree and Odin himself confirmed that they don't have the means to look for it.And, it was only after the fact when SS said the Seed was gone did Galactus know it was lost within the worldtree. It's an impasse which he is more than willing to outlast and outlive all of Asgard. No one controls the Seed. The See is on Earth. By extension, FF #600 confirms the outcome is favorable to Galactus since he knows where the Seed is, and no one can control it.
There's nothing "damning" about it...all of this was already seen and depicted in Mighty Thor.
And this whole "Galactus is scared of the destroyer" idea seems to have run its course. We have Galactus on panel telling Reed to summon him when the time is right. The time is going to be right when Arishem & co come rolling through.
Same guys who torched the destroyer armor. And frankly i can't see Galactus losing to the Celestials since this time, it appears G is defending earth.
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10000000000% agreed.
If the Big-G is defending Earth, you Celestial supporters better prepare to have your hearts broken...
Originally posted by Bentley
If Galactus is defending Earth then he will be the underdog in the fight, you know, to make the FF do something...
Of course the FF (or perhaps Franklin) wil required to do something, but I garantee you that Galactus will make his power FELT by the Celestials if he is indeed defending the Earth...
If he's defending the Earth from them, then his power will be comparable to their own at the bare minimum; I would not be surprised to see the Big-G stand up to several of them at once given what seems to be at stake...
Originally posted by Nihilist
Wow cherry picking feats it not like that cant be either way is it.
You lost me Nihilist. I wasn't cherry picking. I was just pointing out how Galactus and the Celestials (Arishem) fared vs a common foe (Odin). Then pointing out how Arishem fared against Tiamut. Then Thor's statement about Exitar.
If you got other encounters with shared foes between them, I'd be interested in seeing it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fraction's run is clearly something Hickman has acknowledged to at least some extent, I wonder if the Odin/Celestial encounter will be referenced when Galactus/Celestials meet. That will definitely be interesting, I hope Odin doesn't get shafted though. Anyways we'll see how he fares against the Host.I wonder how much reputation Galactus has left. If he's shown as a peer to the Celestials, will their stock drop or will his raise?
Yet the Nova showing of Glactus ignored, the Cancerverse invasion showing of Galactus ignored, and I'll be honest the similarities between Galactus in Chaos War and Galactus in The Mighty Thor isn't exactly filled with common attributes. And really the list goes on.
So as I said before, it's now more then ever how the individual writer sees him, and what they think he should accomplish, not what he given his history can accomplish.
Originally posted by zopzop
You lost me Nihilist. I wasn't cherry picking. I was just pointing out how Galactus and the Celestials (Arishem) fared vs a common foe (Odin). Then pointing out how Arishem fared against Tiamut. Then Thor's statement about Exitar.If you got other encounters with shared foes between them, I'd be interested in seeing it.
Tbf, it's pretty much entirely writer dependent with high end cosmics.
For instance, when fighting another another common foe, The Galactus Engine, Galactus was the only one left standing after all the Celestials/T&A had been taken out (Presumably, as we didn't see them destroyed explicitly, but Galactus was the only one left fighting)
Originally posted by zopzopDo you honestly think Fraction will take into consideration common foes 😂 youre using lower showings for Galatus to validate your point.
You lost me Nihilist. I wasn't cherry picking. I was just pointing out how Galactus and the Celestials (Arishem) fared vs a common foe (Odin). Then pointing out how Arishem fared against Tiamut. Then Thor's statement about Exitar.If you got other encounters with shared foes between them, I'd be interested in seeing it.
Its easy to do, Galactus goes all "Herald my rage" the Celestials cant stand up to that or have anything to compare to that.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Will do they? or we not allowed to use the highest/high feat like we do with Odin or the Celestials
Use whatever feats you want, I don't care. I just don't understand why think the Celestials can't withstand the Annihilation blast, Annihilus did. I don't know if any Celestial has duplicated an attack on that scale but I'd wager it should be comfortably within their ability.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAnnihilus surving it was pis/because he was the main villain, hell it killed a watcher a destroyed a galaxy.
Use whatever feats you want, I don't care. I just don't understand why think the Celestials can't withstand the Annihilation blast, Annihilus did. I don't know if any Celestial has duplicated an attack on that scale but I'd wager it should be comfortably within their ability.
Wheather you think they could is irrelevent as the have never shown anything close to doing so.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Annihilus surving it was pis/because he was the main villain, hell it killed a watcher a destroyed a galaxy.Wheather you think they could is irrelevent as the have never shown anything close to doing so.
What makes a Watcher surviving (An unknown one as I recall actually) valid but Annihilus dying PIS? A Galaxy wasn't destroyed, the Annihilation wave was cleansed on a Galactic scale though.
Alright. However, getting comparative about feats wouldn't be the best route based on their respective battles against Odin and how they compared to IIRC a Cosmic Cube.
For the record, I'm pretty sure Celestials have operated on a Galactic and/or Universal scale at least once. I'll PM guy, too lazy to dig.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWatchers dont tent to vary in power iirc
What makes a Watcher surviving (An unknown one as I recall actually) valid but Annihilus dying PIS?
A Galaxy wasn't destroyed, the Annihilation wave was cleansed on a Galactic scale though.It was stated a 3 solar systems in Annihilation, then Galaxy in GOTG and then then swept the Galaxy clean in Thanos Imperative
Alright. However, getting comparative about feats wouldn't be the best route based on their respective battles against Odin and how they compared to IIRC a Cosmic Cube.Why wouldnt it.
For the record, I'm pretty sure Celestials have operated on a Galactic and/or Universal scale at least once. I'll PM guy, too lazy to dig. [/B]Not to my knowledge they havent.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Watchers dont ten to vary in power iirc
Still doesn't answer my question. And Watchers like other characters fluctuate.
Originally posted by Nihilist
It was stated a 3 solar systems in Annihilation, then Galaxy in GOTG and then then swept the Galaxy clean in Thanos Imperative
Scan of it being stated that a Galaxy was destroyed, that makes very little sense. We know and saw that the entire Galaxy wasn't annihilated.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Why wouldnt it.
Because of what I just said.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Not to my knowledge they havent.
We'll see. I'm ignoring the obvious like Scathan or the Dreaming Celestial/Fullcrum shit during the Eternal series.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Annihilus surving it was pis/because he was the main villain, hell it killed a watcher a destroyed a galaxy.
You know for sure it was a Watcher? Where was this stated?
Its easy to do, Galactus goes all "Herald my rage" the Celestials cant stand up to that or have anything to compare to that.
I'm pretty sure they can withstand that. Otherwise Galactus wouldn't have acted all surprised that Thanos with the HotU could kill a Celestial.