Thor VS Wolverine (With a Red Lantern Ring)

Started by srankmissingnin17 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
If your trolling wasn't so blatantly, obviously for kicks, you'd have been banned by now. mmm

You know you love me. 😎

Originally posted by Cogito
Living emotional entities don't make sense either, but that's the explanation we've been given.

There's also the fact Guy Gardner with Sinestro's ring claimed he was using willpower to contain Lobo in his named series.

Johns may have retconned how the yellow ring worked, but that doesn't completely erase what came before..

Originally posted by cdtm
Johns may have retconned how the yellow ring worked, but that doesn't completely erase what came before..

Yes, it does.

The disparity between general power levels and how the rings operate are so different between Pre and Post GL: Rebirth/Johns' Era. And I used to argue for keeping PC Hal feats as canon as his history is still mostly intact, but even so, the reality of the situation is that the power rings have been significantly changed in portrayal.

Even around Emerald Twilight you can see the differences.

Still, I do think the power rings, on some level, require willpower in the vein of concentration and manifesting thoughts into reality. They are thought based weapons powered by emotions.

Originally posted by Cogito
Yes, it does.

No, it doesn't. Retcons only rewrite what they target, not everything, and there's nothing in Johns run that suggests the colors don't use willpower in some fashion, as they still have the full range of emotion, only with more emphasis on their color.. (Or as PR puts it, they concentrate. And all concentrating/focusing is, is applying willpower, imo..)

For another example, in the v3 run of Green Lantern, Guy used his anger to augment his will. Johns retcon on the colors doesn't make this impossible, by any stretch... And imo, it would make more sense for red colors to use rage to focus will, or violet colors to use love to to augment their power, as emotions are known to improve focus as much as they can impede it.. Emotions being used as to aggregate their focus, basically.

The GL's and the colored Lanterns aren't the Guardians. They still operate off their full emotional spectrum...

Originally posted by Starscream M
ppl are giving logan so little credit

the guy fights hulk on a regular basis without any amps fer crying out loud

and hulk is a guy who has beaten thor like a doll on past occasion

He's gotten wrecked by Hulk on a regular basis. Want to see every single fight they've had? I'm happy to post it in advance of the Revamped Hulk Respect Thread. And Hulk has a hell of a time beating Thor. Do the math.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Will power is what allows Atrocitus to remain sentient and conscious of his actions unlike the rest of the Red Lantern core who are generally mindless rage machines.
I'm happy for further proof that Guy > Hal, since he was far more dangerous as a GL/RL than Hal was.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm happy for further proof that Guy > Hal, since he was far more dangerous as a GL/RL than Hal was.

"further" proof? sneer