Thor VS Wolverine (With a Red Lantern Ring)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor has a history of holding back against:
- Mortals.
- Allies.
- Mind controlled foes.

Logan was both. IIRC, even at the end he asked Logan if he unharmed. Thor wanted Wolverine to snap out of it but claiming he wasn't holding back is ridiculous.

Thor can operate at levels so much higher than the one seen in that comic, that just thinking about a Wolverine/Thor battle is laughable.

there was too much rhetoric in your previous post to respond to.

-basically, you obviously don't really read wolverine or you would know logan owned the grey hulk in the third arc of his new series. and you would know that logan beat hercules in contest of champions 2

-you're making sweeping statements that thor can no longer be defeated by logan through stealth since thor knows logan's strategies now. what about logan, you don't think he knows how to adjust his game? or only thor is capable of learning?

-logan has gone right through gladiator with his claws. thor's durability isn't any better than gladiator's. does anything more need to be said here?

-when thor finally struck logan with his hammer it wasn't very impressive. more like a fly swat.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm aware of that I was actually criticising his comment. When Thor stopped holding back and used his more exotic powers Wolverine ended up face first in the dirt pretty quickly.

Just to make sure I'm not saying Wolverine takes this 10/10 I said earlier that I think can take some my real argument started that Thor effortlessly beats him in close combat which I personally doubt considering Wolverine's retaded showings in the past when it comes to piercing shit.

I know, I was just adding to it.

Thor doesn't easily beat Logan in close combat unless it's a higher end portrayal or he starts amping his strikes etc.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor did connect with Wolverine during that story, so what is your stance, that Wolverine dodged all Thor "finest" blows but couldn't dodge the one where Thor was massively holding back?

thor managed to tag logan with a sloppy hammer strike after logan jumped on thor's back near the end; thor had no footing, was taken off guard, & reacted quickly without focus. so ya, your sarcasm aside, when he finally managed to actually tag logan....it was weak sauce on thor's part.

Originally posted by wildernesss
there was too much rhetoric in your previous post to respond to.

Lawlz.

Originally posted by wildernesss
-basically, you obviously don't really read wolverine or you would know logan owned the grey hulk in the third arc of his new series. and you would know that logan beat hercules in contest of champions 2

I've seen enough of Logan's feats to have a pretty good idea of what he's capable of.

Scans or issue number. I stopped reading Wolverine's new run after the psycho experiment arc.

Like I said, off panel against a mortal Hercules.

Originally posted by wildernesss
-you're making sweeping statements that thor can no longer be defeated by logan through stealth since thor knows logan's strategies now. what about logan, you don't think he knows how to adjust his game? or only thor is capable of learning?

It's still accurate. Thor knows that Logan resorts to stealth. On a simple whim, he can make it impossible for Logan to even get close to him. The Odinson could effortlessly beat Logan if they were on opposite sides of the planet although I really doubt he'd go that far.

There are no strategies that would allow Logan to overcome Thor's unimaginably massive power and versatility advantage.

Originally posted by wildernesss
-logan has gone right through gladiator with his claws. thor's durability isn't any better than gladiator's. does anything more need to be said here?

Unfortunately, Logan's claws have only been able to do minor damage to the Odinson due to the thickness of his skin.

Originally posted by wildernesss
-when thor finally struck logan with his hammer it wasn't very impressive. more like a fly swat.

Are you saying that Logan treated it like a fly swat or that Thor swatted him away like a fly?

Either way, Thor can hit much harder than that.

Originally posted by wildernesss
thor managed to tag logan with a sloppy hammer strike after logan jumped on thor's back near the end; thor had no footing, was taken off guard, & reacted quickly without focus. so ya, your sarcasm aside, when he finally managed to actually tag logan....it was weak sauce on thor's part.

What about when Thor blocked one of Logan's strikes, was Thor taken off guard, have no footing & just reacting quickly without focus in that example?

I said it once I'll say it again I think Thor is custom made to fight lanterns.

Magic, great energy defense, great energy manipulation/absorption, and large physical power, and very powerful attacks.

Plus Lanterns tend to not have the speed increases other heralds like Superman have to throw Thor off balance, and no Wolverine's speed is no where close to Superman's or even Quicksilver's who we've already seen get beaten by Thor.

Yes depending on the wielder they could add something to it.

What does Wolverine add a healing factor, and some sharp claws.

I mean I would give Thor 8-9/10 wins with a great ring wielder, not because they are weak like I said I think this is one foe Thor is perfectly suited against.

So imo Wolverine's add ons wouldn't be enough here to take those advantages away even if you considered him an "expert" like Atrocius.

Maybe you could argue one more win for wolverine based off of his claws but I think you would still be stretching.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Unfortunately, Logan's claws have only been able to do minor damage to the Odinson due to the thickness of his skin.

Are you saying that Logan treated it like a fly swat or that Thor swatted him away like a fly?

Either way, Thor can hit much harder than that.

it only did minor damage (if you call thor bleeding profusely minor)
because they were swiping, not piercing attacks. logan went right through gladiator with a piercing attack. thor is more durable than gladiator? when did this happen? thor's skin has been pierced by far less than logan's claws.

I smell a battlezone...

Originally posted by wildernesss
it only did minor damage (if you call thor bleeding profusely minor)
because they were swiping, not piercing attacks. logan went right through gladiator with a piercing attack. thor is more durable than gladiator? when did this happen? thor's skin has been pierced by far less than logan's claws.

So, your stance is that Wolverine is faster and more skilled and yet can only land minor attacks against Thor?

ppl are giving logan so little credit

the guy fights hulk on a regular basis without any amps fer crying out loud

and hulk is a guy who has beaten thor like a doll on past occasion

Originally posted by wildernesss
it only did minor damage (if you call thor bleeding profusely minor)
because they were swiping, not piercing attacks. logan went right through gladiator with a piercing attack. thor is more durable than gladiator? when did this happen? thor's skin has been pierced by far less than logan's claws.

They only did minor damage (Thor was bleeding more in one spot but it's the anomaly. Not certain I'd call it profusely.) because of the thickness of Thor's Asgardian skin, like it was said in the comic.

Logan could decapitate Gladiator and I wouldn't give a shit because it has nothing to do with Thor. Using Wolverine as a benchmark, Thor does come off as more durable than Gladiator against piercing damage, is that what you want to hear?

Classic Thor maybe, not current. Since his rebirth, bullets have bounced off (JMS' run), the Disir were doing shallow damage like Wolverine's claws and only Hela with the Twilight Sword has been able to actually do noticeable damage.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ppl are giving logan so little credit

the guy fights hulk on a regular basis without any amps fer crying out loud

and hulk is a guy who has beaten thor like a doll on past occasion

Deathstroke fights Flash a regular basis without any amps fer crying out loud.....OMG Slade has light speed reactions.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ppl are giving logan so little credit

the guy fights hulk on a regular basis without any amps fer crying out loud

and hulk is a guy who has beaten thor like a doll on past occasion

If a twelve year old child fights Mike Tyson on a regular basis, that doesn't make him his equal.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If a twelve year old child fights Mike Tyson on a regular basis, that doesn't make him his equal.

Wolverine manages to tank cl 100 hits in the same manner that Slade manages to tag Flash level people....either PIS or the character is holding back.

Originally posted by Starscream M
no 12 yr old can survive more than 10 sec with mike tyson....if they regularly fight tyson and live, that makes them pretty friggin powerful

No, it makes them durable. Having all the defense in the world without the ability to put someone down when they can hit harder than you can basically turns you in to a punching bag.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine manages to tank cl 100 hits in the same manner that Slade manages to tag Flash level people....either PIS or the character is holding back.

thats apples and oranges

wolverine has the pwoer to take cl100 hits...slade doesn't have the power to tag speedsters

Originally posted by Starscream M
ppl are giving logan so little credit

the guy fights hulk on a regular basis without any amps fer crying out loud

and hulk is a guy who has beaten thor like a doll on past occasion

For instance are you positive the Hulk Wolverine fights is on the same level as the one Thor fights.

I doubt it, plus Hulk's durability tends to be lower then most other high end power characters so Wolverine can probably hurt him easier when the Hulk is in a weaker state.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, it makes them durable. Having all the defense in the world without the ability to put someone down when they can hit harder than you can basically turns you in to a punching bag.

I just feel ppl are giving logan so little credit in this fight

Originally posted by Starscream M
no 12 yr old can survive more than 10 sec with mike tyson....if they regularly fight tyson and live, that makes them pretty friggin powerful

Or Mike is just holding back becasue it's a 12 yr old.