Kain vs. Sarah Kerrigan

Started by Burning thought3 pages
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
I have seen you apply gameplay countless times.

I dont use mechanics.

What are mechanics?

This thread's turning into a warzone; I love it. Call him a ****, Q'Anillia.

No no, but I am genuine. If Burning Thought does not use mechanics, I must understand the term wrong.

He's seriously a **** as well, don't feel bad hun. If the boot fits and all that.

What word are you saying Blax?

sl*t.

I dunno why it's censored. This site's censor system is incredibly retarded.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont use mechanics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF1S2bo6cSg#t=1m6s

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Since when is an ability a mechanic?

Again, please define mechanics.

What is going on here guise?

This thread gets derailed fast...

anyway...

"Point I was making is, said storm would be useless against a teleporter who could be on top of her in an instant"

I won't go all the way and say useless; if Kerrigan was able to accurately predict (i.e. read) where Kain was heading and react fast enough, then even a mere moment in the storm would be harmful to him. Still you are right in that it will be difficult to kill him with.
"unless she uses the storm on herself. "

I do wonder if she could do that without harming herself....have to read more into psionic storms to find out, but if she did he'd have a very tough time getting close, enabling her to just sit back and fire at him with her C-10.

You raise a point with telepathy, but ignore the Psychic attack one. Having the defense to resist a form of mind takeover or espionage (control and telepathy) is very different from resisting a full on mental attack, which just seeks to destroy and is less "delicate" then the other two.

Could he teleport when under fire, or in a force-like grip?

"Kain has time ****ery, he can slow down time to a crawl, or follow up with incapcitate which freezes people in time completly."

Would potentially know about them at least, from telepathy while Kain would be ignorant of her psionic abilities (including attack).

Originally posted by deadliestfan
This thread gets derailed fast...

anyway...

"Point I was making is, said storm would be useless against a teleporter who could be on top of her in an instant"

I won't go all the way and say useless; if Kerrigan was able to accurately predict (i.e. read) where Kain was heading and react fast enough, then even a mere moment in the storm would be harmful to him. Still you are right in that it will be difficult to kill him with.
"unless she uses the storm on herself. "

I do wonder if she could do that without harming herself....have to read more into psionic storms to find out, but if she did he'd have a very tough time getting close, enabling her to just sit back and fire at him with her C-10.

You raise a point with telepathy, but ignore the Psychic attack one. Having the defense to resist a form of mind takeover or espionage (control and telepathy) is very different from resisting a full on mental attack, which just seeks to destroy and is less "delicate" then the other two.

Could he teleport when under fire, or in a force-like grip?

"Kain has time ****ery, he can slow down time to a crawl, or follow up with incapcitate which freezes people in time completly."

Would potentially know about them at least, from telepathy while Kain would be ignorant of her psionic abilities (including attack).

Well he wouldnt need to get close, using TK he could bring her to him although the psioninc storm has less power than required to damage Kain so I can imagine him just teleporting in it for a fraction of a second, slicing her in half and then coming out of it. Psionic storms tear apart regular soldiers and tanks and things but the starships were swatted about and the battlecruisers were already damaged from earlier fights, they had to retreat from the orbital battle because things got too hot in space.

Psychic attack is less powerful than a psionic storm though. What is the strongest thing shes damaged with it? I cant recall many canon instances.

I dont see those things being a problem for any teleporter, a force like grip creates a field of kinetic force around the object its holding, teleport transports that matter somewhere else so it would be outisde the force.

Even if she knows about it ,she cant stop it and once shes under the effects of time powers, she wont be able to fight at all, she will be slowed to a crawl. And Kain has mind powers too, he may aslo know what she is up to, he can even read the past and current events by drinking some blood.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Again, please define mechanics.

Rule 14 of the forum kinda does it. Health bars, energy bars, magic meters etc.

So that Sarah Kerrigan can take a Yamato Cannon to the face is not a mechanic, but rather a feat?

Shes never done so canonically, the fact she has X ability and it works X way is canon but the damage it does as per gameplay is irrelevent . Also, I think your trying to mock this system, not understand it and I dont really care enough about your interpretation to go through it with you.

No, I am trying to understand where you stand on it, since I have seen you refer to situations in gameplay for feats. I am not mocking any system, just because I question various interpretations of it. I understand why you should not use gameplay mechanics for debating, but I also understand that what is considered "mechanic" varies from debater to debater.

In your case, it is very iffy. Debating should be done on equal terms, not with different understanding of a certain term.

Well I dont belive you, and as I said, its not much fo a concern to me.

It is not much of a concern for you to debate on equal terms?

The debates are not constructive enough here, and if I bothered stateing the terms, people would still do things their own way. Hence, waste of time.