Originally posted by Starscream M
uh get off your high horsehow is surfer any more durable than colossus regarding piercing attacks?
uh Get off the stupid train. Surfer is more durable to piercing attacks because we have seen him take superior piercing attacks to those colossus has taken. That easy enough for u?
Originally posted by MindsetI said both of them have been resistant to pierce...as in i dont recall either being cut in any significant fashion
You said they had similar displays of durability against piercing damage.Show me.
hence i dont have to show anything
now if you think colossus is more apt to be cut, show me instances where he has been cut by attacks that you think surfer would be unphazed by
Originally posted by Naija boyso despite colossus not being cut, he is more cuttable than surfer? you're being a fanboy now
uh Get off the stupid train. Surfer is more durable to piercing attacks because we have seen him take superior piercing attacks to those colossus has taken. That easy enough for u?
Originally posted by Starscream M
I said both of them have been resistant to pierce...as in i dont recall either being cut in any significant fashionhence i dont have to show anything
now if you think colossus is more apt to be cut, show me instances where he has been cut by attacks that you think surfer would be unphazed by
Originally posted by Starscream M
colossus is on par with surfer in pierce durability...come on, don't be dense
Show me Colossus is on par with SS, as I am new to comics and am not aware of his feats.
Thank you, kind sir.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusBoth times when he was pierced and has the obedience disk implant both times it was clearly indicated that Surfer was severely drained and could not do anything.
Does losing a portion of his energy reduce the durability of his silver coating? I don't think he was cut off from the entire Power Cosmic when Skaar pierced him with the obedience disk. Just weakened from the sealing the Old Power.
And being drained of the Power Cosmic means his durability is weakened... I thought that was clear.
Originally posted by Naija boy
I cant remember it being said he was totally cut off from the power cosmic. As seen in the planet hulk incident, when he becomes very weakened and vulnerable his durablitiy apparently goes down (though this isnt a rule of thumb for most writers and only seems applicable to to Sakaar related issues/under Greg pak). Similar to the time he was first pierced as in planet hulk, SS in the skaar issue was so heavily weak that he could not at all use any of his energy powers and he then became vulnerable.Oh and i meant the hulks Warbound. What feat does thor have to match the Morg scene? not that there can even be any debate regarding Thor and Surfers piercing durability given thors history.
The second time the obedience disk penetrated his skin, I'm pretty sure he just lost some energy sealing the Old Power.
I'm not too sure about that. During the flash back, Surfer stated that the portal had weakened him, leaving him more vulnerable than before but that might be in regards to the drain in power, not his durability taking a dive. In Planet Hulk he was still very durable to piercing attacks even when cut off from the flow of Power Cosmic. I'd say that under Pak, Norrin is incredibly durable to piercing attacks, but just that, incredibly durable. Objects can apparently penetrate his skin.
Being vulnerable doesn't necessarily mean a decrease in piercing durability.
Bloodaxe was repeatedly pounding on a Masteson Thor who had his strength removed by Odin/Loki. He had a bruise but other than that, he was completely fine. Not a scratch.
At his higher ends, Thor's pretty damn durable. Even in regards to piercing attacks. Let that be clear.
Edit: The disk doesn't actually separate him from the Power Cosmic. It just prevents him from using it.
Originally posted by Starscream M
so despite colossus not being cut, he is more cuttable than surfer? you're being a fanboy now
You are being a retard as usual. The only way to determine who has displayed better piercing durability is to see who has resisted the greater piercing attacks. Featwise that is surfer. Collossus has not faced the same level of piercing attacks that surfer has and come out unscathed, therefore u cannot attribute the same level of piercing durabillity to them. U cant just say oh "well neither of them hve been cut so we will just say they are the same". They have faced different level of piercing attacks with Surfer having withstood far superior attacks.
Originally posted by kgkg
Both times when he was pierced and has the obedience disk implant both times it was clearly indicated that Surfer was severely drained and could not do anything.And being drained of the Power Cosmic means his durability is weakened... I thought that was clear.
Apparently it isn't.
Reducing his energy levels might not necessarily mean his silver coating becomes more vulnerable. At least at base levels.
Originally posted by Naija boyactuall if you want to get technical, colossus has faced superior cutting attacks than surfer and remained unfazed
You are being a retard as usual. The only way to determine who has displayed better piercing durability is to see who has resisted the greater piercing attacks. Featwise that is surfer. Collossus has not faced the same level of piercing attacks that surfer has and come out unscathed, therefore u cannot attribute the same level of piercing durabillity to them. U cant just say oh "well neither of them hve been cut so we will just say they are the same". They have faced different level of piercing attacks with Surfer having withstood far superior attacks.
colossus has faced wolverine's claws head on whereas I dont believe surfer has. so if anything, colossus has superior pierce feat.
Originally posted by Starscream M
actuall if you want to get technical, colossus has faced superior cutting attacks than surfer and remained unfazedcolossus has faced wolverine's claws head on whereas I dont believe surfer has. so if anything, colossus has superior pierce feat.
The fact that Wolvie can't stab colossus is so dumb that it's not even worth mentioning.