WWH Vs Xmen Rematch

Started by nwg20229 pages

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Legion is not the Hulk, yes he is super powerful in his own right but Hulk's powers and physiology are unique to him and him only. Most of the options for the X-Men winning are based around a LOT of speculation, I would be more than happy to give the X-Men the nod if I felt as though they had a definite sure-fire way of winning here but they honestly don't, not for the majority imo. They have no genuine weakness exploitation, lack the raw power to KO Hulk, BFR is off and most of the team can ill-afford to be hit by even one attack. Yes they can hurt him, keep him off balance, cause injury etc but that's only going to make it worse for them.

Banner KO'ed a fully amped up Red Hulk with a thunderclap, this was the same Loebforce Rulk that while amped, was tearing through everyone in sight from Elite heralds like Silver Surfer and Thor to low end skyfathers. Even without being amped Rulk can take hammer strikes from Thor and Bill.
Recently Hulk broke a dimensional barrier with a clap, he has re-directed an attack that destroyed the pocket dimension they were in with one and also used it to essentially ended his fight with Gladiator. A literal round of applause from him sent the Ghost Rider host flying in WWH stunning him, it's a devastating attack. Without shields, no one besides Colossus will remain conscious from a thunderclap if Hulk wanted to really end this fight.

The Juggernaut is always at "full" power, his power dwindles if he doesn't cause destruction. I do believe the avatar can summon more power but not on the fly like Hulk can and Colossus is very inexperienced at using the power of the Juggernaut. Also Cain was knocked out by Onslaught and it was ironically the Hulk who defeated Onslaughts physical form and a more powerful one at that.

Hope and Magik do have great potential but they haven't realised it yet, Hulk has and that is key. Many people have tangled with Mephisto including Hulk and have bested him, this isn't proof that she auto wins especially in Earth's dimension where her powers are significantly weaker. This whole "Hulk won't touch her" arguement is about as valid as Thor not being able to touch Superman imo, he doesn't even need to attack her directly to KO her.

I went back and fourth "Darksaint" and I don't feel like doing it again, I have stated my reasons why I believe Hulk takes the majority. I respect your opinion so if nothing else we will agree to disagree but it won't be a stomp in either sides favour.

That's my point, i know hulk grabbed mephisto and strangled him and held him over his own hell fire. he was able to beat him while thor, surfer and galactus could not. What i dont get is how he is able to do that given his power set. He is super strong. Mephisto can go inatngible, he can teleport, he can morph, he can multiply, he can fly, he has magic, he does not need to breath, he can turn to liquid, etc.... i dont get how people like him can be beaten by people who are strong. No matter how many mountains you lift he should not be able to do that. unless Hulk has another power i dont know about (cancel other powers, anti magic fields etc..) i dont know how being super strong beats a hell lord. Magik beating him is more logical since she uses the soul sword which cancel and dispels magic and magical users and she deals in magic as well. Just like i dont see magik out punching or out lifting the hulk. or beating the hulk in a bench press competition or thunderclaping since it is not in her power set. but hey, you think hulk wins. i dont. its cool...

Originally posted by nwg202
That's my point, i know hulk grabbed mephisto and strangled him and held him over his own hell fire. he was able to beat him while thor, surfer and galactus could not. What i dont get is how he is able to do that given his power set. He is super strong. Mephisto can go inatngible, he can teleport, he can morph, he can multiply, he can fly, he has magic, he does not need to breath, he can turn to liquid, etc.... i dont get how people like him can be beaten by people who are strong. No matter how many mountains you lift he should not be able to do that. unless Hulk has another power i dont know about (cancel other powers, anti magic fields etc..) i dont know how being super strong beats a hell lord. Magik beating him is more logical since she uses the soul sword which cancel and dispels magic and magical users and she deals in magic as well. Just like i dont see magik out punching or out lifting the hulk. or beating the hulk in a bench press competition or thunderclaping since it is not in her power set. but hey, you think hulk wins. i dont. its cool...

We're now debating the weight of adamantium lol.

Originally posted by nwg202
That's my point, i know hulk grabbed mephisto and strangled him and held him over his own hell fire. he was able to beat him while thor, surfer and galactus could not. What i dont get is how he is able to do that given his power set. He is super strong. Mephisto can go inatngible, he can teleport, he can morph, he can multiply, he can fly, he has magic, he does not need to breath, he can turn to liquid, etc.... i dont get how people like him can be beaten by people who are strong. No matter how many mountains you lift he should not be able to do that. unless Hulk has another power i dont know about (cancel other powers, anti magic fields etc..) i dont know how being super strong beats a hell lord. Magik beating him is more logical since she uses the soul sword and she deals in magic as well. Just like i dont see magik out punching or out lifting the hulk. or beating the hulk in a bench press competition or thunderclaping since it is not in her power set. but hey, you think hulk wins. i dont. its cool...
Dude I'm telling you this like I've been telling to everyone.

Hulk is more that just strength Or "Hulk Smash",plus you can't judge a fight by who is more versatile,because if you do Silver Surfer,Thor,Superman etc will be the best but we know its not true,why does being more versatile does not matter just as much Strength does not matter look at it these way Superman has Heat Vision and Super Breathe,oh but look Hulk can stand temperatures hotter than the sun and cold temperatures colder than the ice age basically it's how your powers affect the letter

Originally posted by TheHulk
Dude I'm telling you this like I've been telling to everyone.

Hulk is more that just strength Or "Hulk Smash",plus you can't judge a fight by who is more versatile,because if you do Silver Surfer,Thor,Superman etc will be the best but we know it ms not true,

Urmm they kind of are considered the best 😛

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Urmm they kind of are considered the best 😛
If you focus in active heroes

Originally posted by TheHulk
If you focus in active heroes

Thor's not active...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thor's not active...
So lets strike him 😛

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We're now debating the weight of adamantium lol.

really? ayt. I'm outta here. lol i can't debate in subjects i have no knowledge in. have fun..

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Urmm they kind of are considered the best 😛

amen brother lol no arguments here...why? because of their power sets...( well some of the best at least)

Originally posted by nwg202
really? ayt. I'm outta here. lol i can't debate in subjects i have no knowledge in. have fun..

Lol, well, it stemmed from me saying Muramasa blade could cut the Hulk.

Since adamantium is harder and tougher than the hulk, as evidenced by the fact adamantium bullets go through him, the blade should be able to cut the Hulk. I then showed how it seriously messed up Skaar, whom I admit does not quite have the same powerset, but is similar to the Hulk.

And I know that the blade was taken by Wolverine, but he would surely relish the chance to get one over the Hulk in this rematch, especially as he was humiliated so badly last time...

Originally posted by nwg202
amen brother lol no arguments here...why? because of their power sets...( well some of the best at least)
Did you even listen to anything I've been saying!!!???

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, well, it stemmed from me saying Muramasa blade could cut the Hulk.

Since adamantium is harder and tougher than the hulk, as evidenced by the fact adamantium bullets go through him, the blade should be able to cut the Hulk. I then showed how it seriously messed up Skaar, whom I admit does not quite have the same powerset, but is similar to the Hulk.

And I know that the blade was taken by Wolverine, but he would surely relish the chance to get one over the Hulk in this rematch, especially as he was humiliated so badly last time...

Lol that's a wrong way to debate my friend.....

Originally posted by TheHulk
Lol that's a wrong way to debate my friend.....

How so? I mean, we have all agreed that the blade could cut the Hulk. Sure, if he got angrier it would get harder to cut him, but he'd still be able to be cut.

We have also agreed that the blade is not just limited to mutant healing factors.

My next point would be to find evidence of MAgneto being able to fling shards of metal at hypersonic speeds.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How so? I mean, we have all agreed that the blade could cut the Hulk. Sure, if he got angrier it would get harder to cut him, but he'd still be able to be cut.

We have also agreed that the blade is not just limited to mutant healing factors.

My next point would be to find evidence of MAgneto being able to fling shards of metal at hypersonic speeds.

Go to hulk vs magneto in single battle mags does not do Sh*t so overall I don't count him that much in this battle

Originally posted by TheHulk
Go to hulk vs magneto in single battle mags does not do Sh*t so overall I don't count him that much in this battle

It does when he's slicing the Hulk up using the blade from a safe distance.....

Originally posted by TheHulk
Hmmm well that's all said and done but still it supposedly Ten Tons so maybe it was made more durable cause no way adamantium weight Ten Tons
Adamantium would weigh ten tons if you had ten tons of it...

What weighs more, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?

Originally posted by Existere
Adamantium would weigh ten tons if you had ten tons of it...

What weighs more, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?

What the hell are you talking about???

Hulk is more than just physical strength. The guy "grabbed" force fields and bent it and changed its structure with his bare hands. He has hit intangible beings...grown gills...etc, etc.

To think he is nothing but pure strength is ignoring the character history.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It does when he's slicing the Hulk up using the blade from a safe distance.....
*sign* please give me a scenario for this one....

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is more than just physical strength. The guy had "grabbed" force fields and bent it and changed its structure with his bare hands. He has hit intangible beings...grown gills...etc, etc.

To think he is nothing but pure strength is ignoring the character history.

...so?