Originally posted by The Sorrow
They are both telepath's which made the task far easier, no one here is entering the Hulk's mind while he is enraged.Colossus so far has not looked as impressive as the original Juggernaut imo and Cain has been knocked out before. A depleted Kuurth was able to cave his skull in and break his ribs imagine what Hulk would do. Using Hope and Magik to teleport Juggernaut is only going to make Hulk angrier which is only going to be worse for the X-Men, hiding in the safety of Limbo while their team is being slaughtered is not something they would do in character.
As I have said before one thunderclap is all it takes to wipe out most of this team, they have literally no margin for error, you take out Cyclops and most of the strategies go out the window. Mags shields aren't taking punches from Hulk this powerful for any great length of time and Storm, Emma and Cyke offer next to nothing offensively. Hulk knows Cyclops is the brains behind the operation and he knows who the heavy hitters on the team are, he would take them out first.
Remember this isn't Savage Hulk they are fighting and they don't have prep.
so magik can take out legion's personalities the same legion who is infinitley more powerful then the hulk. Legion who can destroy the universe. but she can't take out hulk's personality. and what happens if she time travels and kills banner?
One thunderclap isnt going to take down most of the team. Cyclops is the only one who goes down from a thunder clap.
So what if Colossus causes a ton of destruction and cyttorak infuses him with more power? What if hope loses it and summons the phoenix? what if magik turns into the hell lord that mephisto and the others fear? You saying hulk can knock out Colossus is pure speculation too...
If you say hulk has a higher gear, 3 x-men have higher gears too...they are powered by insanely powerful magical and cosmic forces. You have the Avatar of Cyttorak, the avatar of phoenix force and a Hell lord all on one team. Magneto is a far far far fourth in terms of power. Your telling me magik can tangle with mephisto but can't beat a brick? Hulk can't even touch her...or hope for that matter..
if you can assume hulk will get angry and get stronger, i can assume that hope magik and Colossus will also go nuts when they get enraged...if all of utopia is in danger you can bet those 3 will go supernova. let's see what you think of hope in the future....at the core of it its one gamma powered person vs cyttorak, phoenix and limbo fueled people. I'd go with the 3 forces anytime...if we are talking about losing it..
