The Dark Knight Rises

Started by Kazenji50 pages
Originally posted by the ninjak
There's no such thing as a 10/10 film. A flawless film.

You gave a 10/10 for Avengers but i suppose it was your fanboyism kicking in.

Originally posted by Newjak
I bet you would be one of those teachers that never give out As on papers 😄

I am an IT Supervisor and I do have to review the tickets my techs process to ensure they handled their work according to Standard Operating Procedures.

I give out perfect scores all the time. That means "100%".

As far as movies, I find it difficult for a movie to be perfect. There's just no way that a movie could be perfect.

However, "The Killing Room" was almost perfect. I watched it twice and I could not find mistakes (except for one) including simple continuity errors. The acting grade is subjective but there is a "believableness" factor that can be graded. But it is the cloest to a "mistakeless" film I have ever reviewed.

Now, it may have made some factual errors. I don't know enough about MK Ultra to make that assessment.

However, it is the most impressive, as far as technical perfection, that I have observed in a film. It's a decent flick, too. I gave it an 8.

Back to TDR? I think the film is full of technical errors. As far as enjoyment? It was more enjoyable than The Killing Room.

Originally posted by Kazenji
You gave a 10/10 for Avengers but i suppose it was your fanboyism kicking in.

Oh yeah I was high on fanboyism that week.
I give it a 7 now. A really good 7.

DKR gets a 5.5-6 give or take.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I am an IT Supervisor and I do have to review the tickets my techs process to ensure they handled their work according to Standard Operating Procedures.

I give out perfect scores all the time. That means "100%".

As far as movies, I find it difficult for a movie to be perfect. There's just no way that a movie could be perfect.

However, "The Killing Room" was almost perfect. I watched it twice and I could not find mistakes (except for one) including simple continuity errors. The acting grade is subjective but there is a "believableness" factor that can be graded. But it is the cloest to a "mistakeless" film I have ever reviewed.

Now, it may have made some factual errors. I don't know enough about MK Ultra to make that assessment.

However, it is the most impressive, as far as technical perfection, that I have observed in a film. It's a decent flick, too. I gave it an 8.

Back to TDR? I think the film is full of technical errors. As far as enjoyment? It was more enjoyable than The Killing Room.

IT huh, are you specialized in any particular field. I'm a computer programmer.

And I agree TDKR was enjoyable although it had errors for sure.

Originally posted by Newjak
IT huh, are you specialized in any particular field. I'm a computer programmer.

I specialize in Cyber Security and Digital Forensics. But my job is just general IT work: server outages, software problems/installs, password rests, rights (groups and individual), mail and mail server maintenance, proxy server assistance, etc.

I want TDR to be better than it was. I wanted it to be greater and more epic. It just felt like it was trying to be but was falling short every turn.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I specialize in Cyber Security and Digital Forensics. But my job is just general IT work: server outages, software problems/installs, password rests, rights (groups and individual), mail and mail server maintenance, proxy server assistance, etc.

I want TDR to be better than it was. I wanted it to be greater and more epic. It just felt like it was trying to be but was falling short every turn.

YEah I got the same feeling and that it never quite hit.

It could because avengers did the epic feeling thing so well though 😛

Originally posted by Kazenji
I don't think they should reboot the franchise, Should wait a few years and then come back to it and maybe have Nolan on as a Producer.

No they shouldn't reboot. Not a good idea when this series has been so epic.

I personally would have used Nolan's Batman for the inevitable JL movie.

If they're serious about making a movie that can compete with Avengers then they should have capitalized on the huge success of this Bat series.

Now they're just starting from scratch with everything depending on the success of Man of Steel next year.

All the JL has so far is that horrendous GL movie!

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No they shouldn't reboot. Not a good idea when this series has been so epic.

I personally would have used Nolan's Batman for the inevitable JL movie.

BaleBats would make a terrible JLAer Batman!

You're high.

And a reboot is completely necessary. and acceptable.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No they shouldn't reboot. Not a good idea when this series has been so epic.

I personally would have used Nolan's Batman for the inevitable JL movie.

If they're serious about making a movie that can compete with Avengers then they should have capitalized on the huge success of this Bat series.

Now they're just starting from scratch with everything depending on the success of Man of Steel next year.

All the JL has so far is that horrendous GL movie!

Despite the series popularity BaleBatman would not have worked in a JL movie.

He wasn't a particularly amazing strategist, nor was he a brilliant inventor. He mostly used Fox for that stuff. He wouldn't work with the likes of Superman or Green Lantern.

They shouldn't reboot.

If they're going to make a JL movie they don't need to establish Batman with his own movie, at this point, just create a new one and have him in it.

For Avengers they needed people to have a vested interest in IM, Thor, and Cap; with Batman that isn't needed.

I have a feeling the Superman movie is going to be mediocre, at best, anyway.

I hope I'm surprised though.

I hear talk that they are either rebooting Green Lantern or dropping him altogether. They said since it was such a flop they may leave Green Lantern a "dead series". So he may not even end up in the JLA movie

Originally posted by ares834
Nah, it's right there.

Now you're switching you're initial point.

You initially claimed Nolan made Batman a "2 dimensional character" which is simply not true. Sure, he may not be the same as he is in the comics, I never claimed he is, but within in the Nolan universe he is fully realized.

Don't let Doom hear that.

Yep. I'm fine with people disliking the movie, that's understandable. But when people try to use nitpicks to justify their opinion and to "prove" that a movie is bad... It's just annoying.

i agree...

Originally posted by Kazenji
I don't think they should reboot the franchise, Should wait a few years and then come back to it and maybe have Nolan on as a Producer.

they should wait but they won;t and that could very well hurt the next film..

Originally posted by the ninjak
BaleBats would make a terrible JLAer Batman!

You're high.

And a reboot is completely necessary. and acceptable.

A reboot is never going to Top Nolan's Batman. Chances are it won't even come close.

I don't see how mediocre Batman franchise on top of a mediocre Superman and a Flop Green Lantern is going to help a JL movie in any way shape or form.

Originally posted by Newjak
Despite the series popularity BaleBatman would not have worked in a JL movie.

He wasn't a particularly amazing strategist, nor was he a brilliant inventor. He mostly used Fox for that stuff. He wouldn't work with the likes of Superman or Green Lantern.

Yeah thing is most people don't give a crap whether Batman invents his own stuff, or if Lucius does it for him. It's too unbelievable for a movie that Batman on top of everything else is some whizz Inventor.

Originally posted by Mindset
They shouldn't reboot.

If they're going to make a JL movie they don't need to establish Batman with his own movie, at this point, just create a new one and have him in it.

For Avengers they needed people to have a vested interest in IM, Thor, and Cap; with Batman that isn't needed.

That's a really good point.

And it would help if the last Batman audiences remember is Nolan's and not some mediocre reboot.

Originally posted by Darth Martin

Stop.
So mad

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
blah

If you can't perceive a better Batman film than the Nolan ones, films where the Batman is more like his comic and animated counterparts.
A Batman that can hang with the JLA, then any words I write will be lost on you.

GRITTY REALISM AND LAME ASS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WON'T CUT IT IN THE JLA.

I understand......you're on a fanboy high. I get it.

Originally posted by the ninjak
GRITTY REALISM AND LAME ASS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WON'T CUT IT IN THE JLA.

Strangely though that sure looks like what they're going for with the Man of Steel.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Strangely though that sure looks like what they're going for with the Man of Steel.

Nolan's involved. Money talks that way. It talks art dead. Dead like my dreams of a good JLA movie.

That's deep man.

i wouldn't have a problem if their is realism in the man of steel especially since people actually do believe in life out there, ya know roswell and area 51 and all ...

i have said that a tweak here and there and Nolanverse could work in a JLA movie while a reboot is a gross mistake on WB's part