The Dark Knight Rises

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I think the mistake Nolan made was having two mentally unbalanced villains in one movie.

It begs the question, who was the psycho & who was the madman?

The climax of the movie was capturing The Joker...oh no, oh wait we still have to sit through Two face now...sigh...yawn.

You weren't just sitting through the two face scene you had the privelage of watching his tale come to an end unless you are a complete dolt. And besides it had to end on two face because that's when Nolan hits us with the hook that Batman's taking the blame for harvey's death because thats what gotham needs of him, and it's best to end on a hook. It's not like we still didn't get to melt in the awesomeness of the joker's capture.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
actually after TDKR is released (to my knowledge) WB is planning on rebooting batman right away with Nolan(and his wife i think) as producers. They plan to try and make this version of batman more "comic oriented"

EDIT: Im still uneasy about Nolan using such an unrealistic villain in a much more realistic themed universe. Sure everyone says Nolan is great especially after TDK and Tom Hardy is a great actor but none of that will make bane who he is in the movie and still passable as bane......also i just got word that bane is British in the movie. Im not complaining im just concerned nolan has bit off a bit more then he can chew with his choice in villain(according to the nolan verse that is)

That's what Nolan doe's though by pitting those contrasts against each other, he prefers a challenge to what is expected. I think it is very interesting to turn this awesome villian into something realistic. Batman himself isn't very realistic but Nolan made him plausable.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
After seeing the first and second of Nolans batman series I completely trust what hes doing with this new one.

thumbsup

Originally posted by ares834
Indeed. One theory I liked is Bane doesn't just break the Bat but kills him. Then the new Cop character takes up the mantle.

Ducard: A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, then you become something else entirely.
Bruce Wayne: Which is?
Ducard: A legend, Mr. Wayne.

Edit: Here is the article.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/advanced-batman-theory-why-nolan-will-kill-bruce-wayne/

I could definately see Batman dieing, Nolan likes to shock and blow minds in every film he has to created from his first three minute short. And i think Batman's death isn't even faintly considered among most fans or audience, so that could very well be what he doe's.

Originally posted by jaden101
Apologies for the giant size of one of the images.

You should be sorry you twit, you ****ed up the whole page, it's a pain in the ass to read anything.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent

You should be sorry you twit, you ****ed up the whole page, it's a pain in the ass to read anything.

I'm not really. I was just placating the divs.

Originally posted by jaden101
I'm not really. I was just placating the divs.

You were clearly polite enough to post an unrequited apology, but as soon as I say that apology was neccesary you retract it.

They can't kill off Bruce...he'll come back and beat Bane after he's been 'broken'

Previous experience of divs moaning about images being too big because scrolling along wastes vital energy they need for fapping ferociously to animal based cartoon pornography.

Originally posted by steverules_2
They can't kill off Bruce...he'll come back and beat Bane after he's been 'broken'

maybe is frozen sperm will twenty five years late, but if e's dead e's dead mate

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Someone pointed out the necklace around Selina's neck is exactly the same as the one Bruce's mom is wearing in Begins...

Is Bruce really a tight-ass that he dug up his mom's grave to give that to Selina?

The plot thickens.

I assumed she stole it since she is a thief. Plus she talks about Bruce keeping everything for himself, so it seemed implied that people were going to take stuff from him.

Come to think of it, wasn't the necklace broken? So maybe this was just a replica to stir up Bruce's emotions.

It was just a funny observation somebody made regarding the necklace.

I doubt it's that important to the storyline, maybe just an in-joke Nolan added for the geek fanatics.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
You weren't just [B]sitting through the two face scene you had the privelage of watching his tale come to an end unless you are a complete dolt. And besides it had to end on two face because that's when Nolan hits us with the hook that Batman's taking the blame for harvey's death because thats what gotham needs of him, and it's best to end on a hook. It's not like we still didn't get to melt in the awesomeness of the joker's capture.

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What's that saying about "opinions & a$$holes...".

Seriously the "awesomeness of the Joker's capture"?
Christ it was a blatant rip-off of the Joker's demise from Burton's 1st Batman.

So yeah, it was the anti anti-climax to Two Face's anti-climatic end.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
What's that saying about "opinions & a$$holes...".

Seriously the "awesomeness of the Joker's capture"?
Christ it was a blatant rip-off of the Joker's demise from Burton's 1st Batman.

So yeah, it was the anti anti-climax to Two Face's anti-climatic end.

Translation: "I like the movie called 'x' more than the new 'y' because x came before y and is more original."

Further translation: "I have refined tastes and I can distinguish lame copycats from the better original."

Final translation: I am a hipster.

estahuh

😆

JK, JK.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Translation: "I like the movie called 'x' more than the new 'y' because x came before y and is more original."

Further translation: "I have refined tastes and I can distinguish lame copycats from the better original."

Final translation: I am a hipster.

estahuh

😆

JK, JK.

I've got some yuletide greetings for you, Sunshine. 😛

Oh hang on a sec...I just noticed Stealth Agent has "Screen Writer" beneath his name.

There goes my humble opinion down the drain....

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
maybe is frozen sperm will twenty five years late, but if e's dead e's dead mate

They won't kill off the main hero

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
It was just a funny observation somebody made regarding the necklace.

I doubt it's that important to the storyline, maybe just an in-joke Nolan added for the geek fanatics.

Are you saying we're geek fanatics?

Because I have no problems with that. 😄

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
What's that saying about "opinions & a$$holes...".

Seriously the "awesomeness of the Joker's capture"?
Christ it was a blatant rip-off of the Joker's demise from Burton's 1st Batman.

So yeah, it was the anti anti-climax to Two Face's anti-climatic end.

I wouldn't say it was a rip off if anything it was a tribute to the original and Noland didn't have the joker killed either.

What would you of preferred? It was either death or capture, and i believe batman doe's his best capturing when his advesary's are suspended in the air hanging from their ankles.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent

What would you of preferred? It was either death or capture, and i believe batman doe's his best capturing when his advesary's are suspended in the air hanging from their ankles.

Maybe an insane cat & mouse chase sequence?

Every time Bats gets too close, the Joker attacks him with razor blades or throws acid. The Joker taunts Batman with weapons that aren't really meant to kill outright but to cause pain & alot of bleeding.
Both use all their gadgets & gimmicks until they're both battered & beyond reasoning.

In the end when Batman finally catches the Joker, he is so enraged that he beats him to a bloody pulp...leaving the viewer to guess whether The Joker is dead or not, whether Batman can openly kill with his bare hands?

We must remember that Nolan's Batman has solemnly sworn never to kill, and obviously the Joker made him want to forget that self-vow, which is WHY the scene is climactic - we finally learn what Joker's goal has been all along - to be killed by Batman. The rest was just kicks and giggles for him. And having the audience finally know this, and seeing how Batman has to overcome his anger and temptation... because the two of them have been playing "Chicken" throughout the movie, and now it's finally face to face.

It wasn't a bit anticlimactic to me... neither the Joker's capture nor Two-Face's death. What he had done since he was seduced by the Joker's idea of Chaos made it impossible to let him survive past the movie.

The real batman...

What film is that from?