Originally posted by T.M
"I will go back to Gotham and I will fight men like this, but I will not become an executioner."By comparing that guy to the criminals in Gotham, and refusing to kill him the rule was implied if not specifically stated imo.
Oh don't get me wrong, it's definitely implied, strongly implied indeed, but someone asked if he ever stated he would never kill.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
It's to much of a bold statement to make given his line of work, and it is implied he intends to kill no one but why make that swear when something could always inadvertently happen.
That's close to the point I was trying to make in regards to beating Joker to a bloody pulp as a finale to TDK rather than hanging him upside down.
I mean Batman's violent interrogation of The Joker easily blurred the lines towards torture. Smashing the Joker's face into the table top could've easily cracked his skull & killed him.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
That's close to the point I was trying to make in regards to beating Joker to a bloody pulp as a finale to TDK rather than hanging him upside down.I mean Batman's violent interrogation of The Joker easily blurred the lines towards torture. Smashing the Joker's face into the table top could've easily cracked his skull & killed him.
Correct but also we know the joker deserved nothing less being he had survived a savage beating(s) earlier.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Correct but also we know the joker deserved nothing less being he had survived a savage beating(s) earlier.
See...now you're blurring the lines.
Regardless of how high the Joker's pain tolerance is does not dictate the level of violence done onto him.
So Batman has no qualms of permanently injuring someone but he still won't cross the line of killing (in the Nolan verse)?
Also when he dropped the guy off the balcony and broke his legs lol. I reckon it could well have been fatal or the guy may have become a paraplegic, depends how he lands.
You know that reminds me, the Night Club Fight scene totally pisses me off. Batman just looks like a mere man in a suit fighting his way through thugs. He was decent at fighting, you'd think maybe special forces, but theres no way one would think he represents the legend of the Dark Knight. The "real" Batman would strike from the shadows, those thugs would be out before they knew it.
Originally posted by PlacidityYou know that reminds me, the Night Club Fight scene totally pisses me off. Batman just looks like a mere man in a suit fighting his way through thugs. He was decent at fighting, you'd think maybe special forces, but theres no way one would think he represents the legend of the Dark Knight. The "real" Batman would strike from the shadows, those thugs would be out before they knew it.
That fight scene really bugged me too. Batman came charging into the night club blinded by anger. There was no skill in his moves, no strategy in his fight.
I guess that's the hardest thing in any Batman movie is to make him come across as more than a man in a costume. Begins had some beautiful scenes using shadow & darkness to compliment Batman. Whereas TDK exposed Batman to a lot more light & open spaces, these scenes really didn't work in his favour.
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I guess that's the hardest thing in any Batman movie is to make him come across as more than a man in a costume. Begins had some beautiful scenes using shadow & darkness to compliment Batman. Whereas TDK exposed Batman to a lot more light & open spaces, these scenes really didn't work in his favour.
Yup, that's why I have my worries about TDKR, he is fighting in DAYLIGHT, in the OPEN...
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
See...now you're blurring the lines.
Regardless of how high the Joker's pain tolerance is does not dictate the level of violence done onto him.So Batman has no qualms of permanently injuring someone but he still won't cross the line of killing (in the Nolan verse)?
Why would batman give him less of a beating then when he knows he survived more of a beating earlier.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Why would batman give him less of a beating then when he knows he survived more of a beating earlier.
Regardless of his state of mental health...The Joker is still a human being.
Y'know skull fracturing, broken bones, internal bleeding...
I mean the Joker slammed some mobster's head down upon an upright pencil...does this justify Batman to do the same to him?
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I do like batman just not the newer ones. I perfer the first Batman movie and Batman Returns and Batman Forever. Those are the best and will always be the best!Btw why do you find that interesting? 🙂
Everybody likes Batman. And I prefer the Burton films as well.
But the Schumacher ones should be rounded up and burned.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I do like batman just not the newer ones. I perfer the first Batman movie and Batman Returns and Batman Forever. Those are the best and will always be the best!Btw why do you find that interesting? 🙂
Just never thought someone wouldn't like Batman...but you do like him. Most Batman fans would pick the Nolan films over the 3rd movie and probably the Burton movies...but not as much as the 3rd and 4th movie.