Thor vs Gladiator-The Definitive Battle-Feat War

Started by JBL26 pages

Thor is not as strong as Gladiator.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Why not?

Yes you say that but I've seen no evidence in favor of it. You made the claim that feats from the past are less relevant, and I can't seem to understand why that is when Thor's power is essentially the same as classic at the moment. It's not like with Superman who had 2-3 amps back in the day so his low showings were less relevant depending on the time frame.

Because the writers don't take the old notions like "Thor and Hulk must be equal in strength" anymore. Hulk is officially stronger than Thor nowadays and Thor's strength is regularly show to be below many elites of marvel comics.

Yes you're right, but we're on a battleboard, so the feats stay. We're a thousand times more critical than writer no doubt, but this is the place for it.

"tanked" might be strong, but he was fine.

https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11119/111197929/4864609-with+mjolnir+she+can+sharge+powerful+and+controlled+blast+of+lightning+that+puts+the+destroyer+on+his+kness.jpg

Oh you mean that? Odin didn't want anyone dead so I'm really doubtful that Destroyer was using his disintegration beam on everyone. Even Hildagrade or whateverhername survived an attack from destroyer's beams.

Its just that Aaron doesn't know anything about destroyer other than that he has a face beam and is really strong. In all its appearances, Destroyer only used face beams only.

Where did you say Thor is amped?

Is that not what you're trying to imply?

Not really.

He was treated very badly, but the majority of his fights against similar opponents took place before his character was brutalized in 2012...and a few times times after.

Like who?

But when they tapped the hammer for him, Thor was ready to go is what I'm saying. Eyes open and not groggy, he just couldn't get back in it because he reverted which is why I think it's similar to the other KO.

Uh no, he was already koed before he reverted to Jake Olson.


He is airborne for 60 seconds before falling limply to earth and his eyes are shut. That only means he was koed.

Then how does it work in your opinion? So we can be more on the same page.

You can't argue based on solely one showing that Thor ragdolled Bill who was holding back as proof that Thor is stronger than Jane.

Those are just words Abhi.

Uh right, Minotaur has such a great history of feats that we can say he is as strong as Hulk.

Oh wait....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thirty years? I don't think so.


Nowhere it is said that Thor is as strong as Hulk. That's what is called "plausible deniability".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor's strength is regularly show to be below many elites of marvel comics.

Regularly shown? Lol.... Btw who are these "many elites"?

You've been on this same propaganda tour ever since you joined this site. Yet you won't ever bz your position. You can't be taken seriously.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nowhere it is said that Thor is as strong as Hulk. That's what is called "plausible deniability".

When Marvel by way of Banner himself say it's an eternal debate, that says a lot. 😉

It seems like most agree Gladiator is a good deal faster than Thor. So to me, that is one of the keys to this fight. Thor's hammer can do a lot of stuff, but he needs to actually have time to use it.

I'm not saying Thor loses, but I'm wondering if we are saying Gladiator is faster...how many times can he strike Thor before Thor can react?

Meanwhile, now that we know Mjolnir is sentient, it makes a mockery of all those times it didn't even bother helping Thor, yet would shapeshift etc for Jane.

It even told BRB about Galactus.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Meanwhile, now that we know Mjolnir is sentient, it makes a mockery of all those times it didn't even bother helping Thor, yet would shapeshift etc for Jane.

Jane needed training wheels.

Gladiator is stronger and faster than Thor no question.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Regularly shown? Lol.... Btw who are these "many elites"?

Gladiator, Hyperion, Hulk, Sentry etc.

There was a time that wouldn't be possible. But it is now.

You've been on this same propaganda tour ever since you joined this site. Yet you won't ever bz your position. You can't be taken seriously.

Oh you poor, sad Thorbag.

When Marvel by way of Banner himself say it's an eternal debate, that says a lot. 😉

And then marvel has already published comics which flat out say Hulk is stronger than Thor and has been for a long time.

Banner once said the only guy who can beat Hulk in a fair fight is Thing. Doesn't means it's true.

I mean do you want to do a battle zone about who is stronger between Hulk and Thor? Should be fun.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Gladiator, Hyperion, Hulk, Sentry etc.

There was a time that wouldn't be possible. But it is now.

Oh you poor, sad Thorbag.

And then marvel has already published comics which flat out say Hulk is stronger than Thor and has been for a long time.

Banner once said the only guy who can beat Hulk in a fair fight is Thing. Doesn't means it's true.

I mean do you want to do a battle zone about who is stronger between Hulk and Thor? Should be fun.


Sentry is no longer a herald. That dude is sumthin else.
Gladiator? 😂
Hyperion? Possibly.
Hulk? Possibly.
Who's the etc?

Where is said that he's "flat out" stronger, and "has been for a long time."

Lol Thing? You are all over the place as per usual.

BZ Hulk and Thor? When did I claim Thor is stronger? You already know even though he's a peer, I think Hulk edges Hype and Thor. Strawmannin muthaphukka.

Now are you going to stick by your stance with Gladiator?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sentry is no longer a herald. That dude is sumthin else.

Not in strength.


Gladiator? 😂
Hyperion? Possibly.
Hulk? Possibly.

This is just hilarious. You think Hulk is "possibly" stronger than Thor?

Hyperion was once equal to Thor in strength. Now even you think he may be stronger.

Who's the etc?

Do you want short list or long?

Where is said that he's "flat out" stronger, and "has been for a long time."

Mighty Thor 385, Hulk annual 2001 and Hulk: Let the battle begin.

[quote] Lol Thing? You are all over the place as per usual.

Aren't you the guy taking Banners words as gospel here?

BZ Hulk and Thor? When did I claim Thor is stronger?

I'll even add the stips to show him being as strong.

You already know even though he's a peer, I think Hulk edges Hype and Thor. Strawmannin muthaphukka.

But Gladiator was stated as equal to Hulk in strength in comparison. So how does Thor becomes stronger than Gladiator until he is stronger than Hulk too?

Now are you going to stick by your stance with Gladiator?

Absolutely. Any prominent Superman clone isn't going to look weaker than Thor in strength.

It's just not how comics work.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not in strength.

This is just hilarious. You think Hulk is "possibly" stronger than Thor?

Hyperion was once equal to Thor in strength. Now even you think he may be stronger.

Do you want short list or long?


Sentry is an Owen lite. I'm not touching that guy. With him, anything is possible. He's beyond this group.

I already said what I think where Hulk is.
Hype is strong. I would like to see more.
I want the whole list.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Mighty Thor 385, Hulk annual 2001 and Hulk: Let the battle begin.

Aren't you the guy taking Banners words as gospel here?

I'll even add the stips to show him being as strong.


Try again.
While Hulk may have had the upper hand in 385, it had Thor watching out for innocents all fight long and actually ended in a stalemate.
Let the battle begin had the author all but admit that it was non canon. He even alluded to the fact that it may have been a dream sequence. Nice try though.
In the annual, it again ended in a stalemate. It also stated that Hulk "may be stronger" and Thor overall "more powerful", but nothing that says Hulk is flat out stronger.

My scan was in response to "last thirty years" comment which lends to the idea that Hulk/Thor strength continues to be a debate to this date. Even though I'd give the edge to Hulk, Marvel's thoughts on it are quite clear even now.

Stips to what? Your strawman?

Originally posted by abhilegend

But Gladiator was stated as equal to Hulk in strength in comparison. So how does Thor becomes stronger than Gladiator until he is stronger than Hulk too?

Absolutely. Any prominent Superman clone isn't going to look weaker than Thor in strength.

It's just not how comics work.


How idiotic is that stance?

😂
Superman. Why am I not surprised?

So are you ready to back your claim or are you going to keep running as per usual? The thread is already open. All you have to do is find your ballz.

Hulk is the strongest hero in the world.

In order for Thor to Ko gladiator, he had to use his hammer. In order for gladiator to Ko Thor, he used his fists. Gladiator is stronger than Thor period. More durable. Had Thor fell into that lava while fighting algrim or beta Ray Bill, he would have died. Human touch full nova blast would roast thor.Superman could have roasted Thor as could gladiator. Thors hammer is his saving grace. No hammer against superman, what happened? Got KTFO. No hammer against gladiator, what happened? Got KTFO.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
-Strength: Thor.

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir ): Thor, no contest.

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir): Wash.

-Blasting Power: Thor, no contest.

-Raw Speed: Gladiator.

-Combat Speed: Gladiator.

-Durability: Thor.

-Damage Soak: Thor, no contest.

-Combat Smarts: Wash generally.

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement: Thor

☝

LMAO, Gladiator is equal to Hulk in strength, yet people claim that Thor is stronger than gladiator even though it's a well known fact that hulk is stronger than Thor. I guess Thor is stronger than hulk too. Lol. Thor was not much stronger than classic Wonderman and it was stated once that Wonderman was stronger than Thor.

Gladiator is stronger.

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO, Gladiator is equal to Hulk in strength, yet people claim that Thor is stronger than gladiator even though it's a well known fact that hulk is stronger than Thor. I guess Thor is stronger than hulk too. Lol. Thor was not much stronger than classic Wonderman and it was stated once that Wonderman was stronger than Thor.

We go by feats. Not opinions. Leave Hulk alone.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sentry is an Owen lite. I'm not touching that guy. With him, anything is possible. He's beyond this group.

Not in strength.

I already said what I think where Hulk is.
Hype is strong. I would like to see more.

There you go. Three elites already stronger than Thor.

I want the whole list.

Wouldn't you like that?

Try again.
While Hulk may have had the upper hand in 385, it had Thor watching out for innocents all fight long and actually ended in a stalemate.

Stalemate? Hulk beat Thor black and blue and by his own admission Thor became as savage as hulk.

This is just making excuses for Thor at this point.

Let the battle begin had the author all but admit that it was non canon. He even alluded to the fact that it may have been a dream sequence. Nice try though.


There is no chance it's non Canon.

The fight was shown in a newspaper. How can it be in a dream idiot? Did you even read the comic?

In the annual, it again ended in a stalemate. It also stated that Hulk "may be stronger" and Thor overall "more powerful", but nothing that says Hulk is flat out stronger.

Thor himself said Hulk is stronger than himself.

But yeah, that's not getting counted too.

😂

My scan was in response to "last thirty years" comment which lends to the idea that Hulk/Thor strength continues to be a debate to this date. Even though I'd give the edge to Hulk, Marvel's thoughts on it are quite clear even now.

There is no debate upon Thor/Hulk rivalry in strength. Hulk is the stronger one.

Just because Banner tried to avoid answering it in one Comic doesn't makes it a debate.

Stips to what? Your strawman?
[/]

Battlezone. Are you ready to prove Thor is as strong as Hulk? [quote]

How idiotic is that stance?

You're the one who think Thor still has a chance against Hulk in terms of strength and you calling anyone else a idiot?

Real rich there.

😂
Superman. Why am I not surprised?

Superman clones are dime a dozen already in marvel.

So are you ready to back your claim or are you going to keep running as per usual? The thread is already open. All you have to do is find your ballz.

Already proved every claim.

Are you ready to do your Battlezone for Thor and Hulk? You always try to do one, eh? How about now? Or are you just as without balls like every Thorbag out there?