Thor vs Gladiator-The Definitive Battle-Feat War

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not in strength.

There you go. Three elites already stronger than Thor.

Wouldn't you like that?

You said many elites are regularly shown to be stronger. One possible, one debatable, and one who falls short on feats is not many. And none of them are "regularly" shown to be stronger.

So as usual you are talking out of your @$$.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Stalemate? Hulk beat Thor black and blue and by his own admission Thor became as savage as hulk.

This is just making excuses for Thor at this point.
There is no chance it's non Canon.

The fight was shown in a newspaper. How can it be in a dream idiot? Did you even read the comic?

Thor himself said Hulk is stronger than himself.

But yeah, that's not getting counted too.

😂

Writer himself said that it took place out of time so it has no real bearing on current Marvel.
Newspaper doesnt tell the details. And again the writer specifically added the words "yeah right, and then I woke up" to let the readers know that Banner may be misremembering the details... As explained by the writer himself.

When one says "may be", it doesn't mean flat out.

Originally posted by abhilegend

There is no debate upon Thor/Hulk rivalry in strength. Hulk is the stronger one.

Just because Banner tried to avoid answering it in one Comic doesn't makes it a debate.

You're the one who think Thor still has a chance against Hulk in terms of strength and you calling anyone else a idiot?

Real rich there.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Superman clones are dime a dozen already in marvel.

Already proved every claim.

Are you ready to do your Battlezone for Thor and Hulk? You always try to do one, eh? How about now? Or are you just as without balls like every Thorbag out there?

Uhh what? You've proven incoherent as usual when someone actually calls u out.

Battlezone what? This is a Thor/Gladz thread. If you don't want to back up your claim, just say so. Quit with all this incoherent babble. You embarrass yourself.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He can if he wants to. Like I said, he's Owen lite and beyond heralds.

Ha, as if he is somehow stronger than everything because he is stronger than Thor.

You said many elites are regularly shown to be stronger. One possible, one debatable, and one who falls short on feats is not many. And none of them are "regularly" shown to be stronger.

So as usual you are talking out of your @$$.

Uh-huh. Just because you don't like it doesn't means marvel doesn't portrays them as stronger.

Add Red Hulk, Tutinax and Count Nefaria there.

At this point it's easier to find who is stronger than Thor to who isn't.

Hulk ran off before the fight ended. How do u win a fight that u run away from with your opponent getting ready for more rounds?

That's a pretty funny way to explain away Thor getting beaten black and blue.

Hulk chose to leave because he proved he was stronger by beating the shit out of Thor.

Puny god had to fall back on mjolnir as usual.

Writer himself said that it took place out of time so it has no real bearing on current Marvel.

That's a strange way to prove it being non Canon. All it shows that the story took place in past and nothing else.

Newspaper doesnt tell the details. And again the writer specifically added the words "yeah right, and then I woke up" to let the readers know that Banner may be misremembering the details... As explained by the writer himself.

It was clearly stated that hulk won.

Try to wiggle out of that.

When one says "may be", it doesn't mean flat out.

For someone as arrogant as Thor, it may as well be.

Please keep up. I'm already of the mind that Hulk edges Thor in overall strength based on feats.

Battlezone what? This is a Thor/Gladz thread. If you don't want to back up your claim, just say so. Quit with all this incoherent babble. You embarrass yourself.

Hey quanchi clone, I'm just asking you to prove yourself that hulk is "possibly" stronger than Thor only and Thor is somehow still equal to Thor in strength.

So you chickened out? Good to know.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ha, as if he is somehow stronger than everything because he is stronger than Thor.

Uh-huh. Just because you don't like it doesn't means marvel doesn't portrays them as stronger.

Add Red Hulk, Tutinax and Count Nefaria there.

At this point it's easier to find who is stronger than Thor to who isn't.

Rulk, Tut, and Nefaria are not stronger. Not by feats. It's like me saying Anointed One, Warmaker One, and Male Cheetah are stronger than Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's a pretty funny way to explain away Thor getting beaten black and blue.

Hulk chose to leave because he proved he was stronger by beating the shit out of Thor.

Puny god had to fall back on mjolnir as usual.

That's a strange way to prove it being non Canon. All it shows that the story took place in past and nothing else.

It was clearly stated that hulk won.
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213429/5221344-7668786789-Hulkv.jpg
Try to wiggle out of that.

For someone as arrogant as Thor, it may as well be.

It was a fight out of time as per the author which strongly suggests that it's not part of regular timeline.
Yes he won, but again as per the writer the details are hazy for Banner. He specifically dropped those two phrases to make that point.

I'm glad you agree your "flat out" claim was wrong. Concession accepted. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend

But you had to add that "Hulk is possibly stronger than Thor, eh".

What happened to possibility now?

There is no such thing stated in that scan. Banner avoided saying anything on that.

It doesn't means anything when Hulk has proven conclusively that he is stronger than Thor.

Exactly how I feel with every Thor fanboy like you.

The scan doesn't have to say verbatim "they are equal in strength" for the reader to understand what the writer/Marvel is trying to convey. Smh... Christ almighty.

Again Imo Hulk edges Thor in strength as far as feats go. However you will find that Marvel has never been definitve in their stance.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hey, a Thorbag like you gets to talk about fanaticism?

Rich, simply rich.

And you've proven yourself as a cowardly idiot who does nothing but talk nonsense.

Hey quanchi clone, I'm just asking you to prove yourself that hulk is "possibly" stronger than Thor only and Thor is somehow still equal to Thor in strength.

So you chickened out? Good to know.

Again this is a Thor/Gladiator thread. For starters no one is saying they are equals in strength. So please quit it with this made up argument involving Hulk. You are caught running with your tail between ure legs when called out as usual. You say Glads is stronger. I said he's not. Are you going to back that up?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Whatever u say. Smh..

Hahaha, oh the idiocy.

Rulk, Tut, and Nefaria are not stronger. Not by feats. It's like me saying Anointed One, Warmaker One, and Male Cheetah are stronger than Superman.

Of course they are stronger. Rulk straight up humiliated Thor. Same with Tutinax (Twice) and Nefaria.

Anointed one was seen fighting equally with Superman and later was shown that Superman and League were defeated due to their morals.

Warmaker one never defeated Superman with strength. Circe had weakened Superman before Cheetah attacked him.

You are so desperate it's not even funny.

Like I said before... It was a fight where he constantly watched out for innocents while Hulk even used one as hostage.

Hahaha, seriously?

Quick, make some more excuses. It was hulk who stopped fighting because of all the carnage while Thor was still hungry for getting his ass kicked some more.

Hulk left because his anger started to subside. Learn to read.

And he proved himself to be stronger after Thor was eating dirt at his feet.

It was a fight out of time as per the author which strongly suggests that it's not part of regular timeline.

No, it doesn't. It doesn't imply that and it doesn't apply as per rules anyway.

Yes he won, but again as per the writer the details are hazy for Banner. He specifically dropped those two phrases to make that point.

Because of transformation. Not that the gurgle ack, bonk did not happen.

I'm glad you agree your "flat out" claim was wrong. Concession accepted. 👆

Hahaha, Thor committing Hulk being stronger and then narrative confirming it doesn't confirns it?

Oh you sad, sad fanboy.

Possibly doesn't mean I'm claiming that Thor is stronger or equal to Hulk. Hell you already know my opinion before this thread. The scan was a reply to whoever is claiming that Thor has never been in equal footing with Hulk in terms of strength or at least for the last 30 yrs. Keep up.

So Thor isn't equal to Hulk in strength but is still in running to be equal in strength?

How does that even makes any sense?

The scan doesn't have to say verbatim "they are equal in strength" for the reader to understand what the writer/Marvel is trying to convey. Smh... Christ almighty.

They aren't conveying anything. It's a cop out which doesn't confirms or deny anything.

Try to read sometime.

Again Imo Hulk edges Thor in strength as far as feats go. However you will find that Marvel has never been definitve in their stance.

Of course they have been. "Hulk is the strongest one there is" kinda gives it away.

Unless it's a Superman clone like Hyperion or Sun God. Thor isn't even in running.

Yes. When one loses all form of logic in the defense of his wet dream fantasy character, I can use that word on u.

Yeah, like Thor losing was because he was looking for little guys.

Seriously, you are just pathetic.

Again this is a Thor/Gladiator thread. For starters no one is saying they are equals in strength. So please quit it with this made up argument involving Hulk. You are caught running with your tail between ure legs when called out as usual. You say Glads is stronger. I said he's not. Are you going to back that up?

😂

So you give the concession that Hulk is "definitely" stronger than Thor instead of "possibly"? Good.

There, proved. Two shot koed Thor like the ***** he is. Thank Odin Tarene was there to save his ***** ass.

Thor vs Hulk is interesting. As I see it the portrayal is kind of like a Rock, Paper Scizor thing in Marvel. On average you can say Hulk > Thor > Silver Surfer > Hulk, if you know what i mean.

The fights between Hulk and Surfer aren't as onesided as Surfer fans try to claim and there surely aren't any claims of Surfer being more powerful or formidable than hulk in comics.

Surfer's style suits him against Hulk but he is rarely a good match Hulk without energy draining.

Originally posted by JBL
In order for Thor to Ko gladiator, he had to use his hammer. In order for gladiator to Ko Thor, he used his fists. Gladiator is stronger than Thor period. More durable. Had Thor fell into that lava while fighting algrim or beta Ray Bill, he would have died. Human touch full nova blast would roast thor.Superman could have roasted Thor as could gladiator. Thors hammer is his saving grace. No hammer against superman, what happened? Got KTFO. No hammer against gladiator, what happened? Got KTFO.

This is why I mention the speed gap. If we really lowball it and say Gladiator can only hit Thor 10-15 times before he reacts, the question is what sort of shape is Thor going to be in after getting hit 15 times full force by Gladiator in the blink of an eye?

Do people think he will tank it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, oh the idiocy.

Of course they are stronger. Rulk straight up humiliated Thor. Same with Tutinax (Twice) and Nefaria.

Anointed one was seen fighting equally with Superman and later was shown that Superman and League were defeated due to their morals.

Warmaker one never defeated Superman with strength. Circe had weakened Superman before Cheetah attacked him.

You are so desperate it's not even funny.

Warmaker One was shown beating up on Clark.

Cheetah overpowered Supes. Nowhere was it shown he was weakened. So easy to turn your logic on u. 😂

So I repeat, are these three stronger than Supes based on feats?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, seriously?

https://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2303374-10.jpg

Quick, make some more excuses. It was hulk who stopped fighting because of all the carnage while Thor was still hungry for getting his ass kicked some more.

And he proved himself to be stronger after Thor was eating dirt at his feet.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, it doesn't. It doesn't imply that and it doesn't apply as per rules anyway.

Because of transformation. Not that the gurgle ack, bonk did not happen.

If it makes u feel better about herself sure... Whatever u say.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, Thor committing Hulk being stronger and then narrative confirming it doesn't confirns it?

Oh you sad, sad fanboy.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So Thor isn't equal to Hulk in strength but is still in running to be equal in strength?

How does that even makes any sense?

Originally posted by abhilegend

They aren't conveying anything. It's a cop out which doesn't confirms or deny anything.

Try to read sometime.

Of course they have been. "Hulk is the strongest one there is" kinda gives it away.

Unless it's a Superman clone like Hyperion or Sun God. Thor isn't even in running.

Hulk's slogan is not proof. 😬

You just agreed it's a cop out. Now Thor is not in the running? You are a mess.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, like Thor losing was because he was looking for little guys.

Seriously, you are just pathetic.

Originally posted by abhilegend

😂

So you give the concession that Hulk is "definitely" stronger than Thor instead of "possibly"? Good.

There, proved. Two shot koed Thor like the ***** he is. Thank Odin Tarene was there to save his ***** ass.

Nice scans. It's too bad your scan involves an alternate bloodlusted Gladz and a holding back Thor who was watching out for innocents. Try again. Hopefully this time in a proper setting. All this smokescreen aside, are u finally ready?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, seriously?

Quick, make some more excuses. It was hulk who stopped fighting because of all the carnage while Thor was still hungry for getting his ass kicked some more.

Love Thor's face in the last panel. A true classic.

Let The Battle Begin was fun, too:

Thor versus ... some weird version of Hercules ...

The Roman version, maybe? 😛

Pretty interesting.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, oh the idiocy.

Of course they are stronger. Rulk straight up humiliated Thor. Same with Tutinax (Twice) and Nefaria.

Anointed one was seen fighting equally with Superman and later was shown that Superman and League were defeated due to their morals.

Warmaker one never defeated Superman with strength. Circe had weakened Superman before Cheetah attacked him.

You are so desperate it's not even funny.

Hahaha, seriously?

Quick, make some more excuses. It was hulk who stopped fighting because of all the carnage while Thor was still hungry for getting his ass kicked some more.

And he proved himself to be stronger after Thor was eating dirt at his feet.

No, it doesn't. It doesn't imply that and it doesn't apply as per rules anyway.

Because of transformation. Not that the gurgle ack, bonk did not happen.

Hahaha, Thor committing Hulk being stronger and then narrative confirming it doesn't confirns it?

Oh you sad, sad fanboy.

So Thor isn't equal to Hulk in strength but is still in running to be equal in strength?

How does that even makes any sense?

They aren't conveying anything. It's a cop out which doesn't confirms or deny anything.

Try to read sometime.

Of course they have been. "Hulk is the strongest one there is" kinda gives it away.

Unless it's a Superman clone like Hyperion or Sun God. Thor isn't even in running.

Yeah, like Thor losing was because he was looking for little guys.

Seriously, you are just pathetic.

😂

So you give the concession that Hulk is "definitely" stronger than Thor instead of "possibly"? Good.

There, proved. Two shot koed Thor like the ***** he is. Thank Odin Tarene was there to save his ***** ass.

Some of the thor fanboys are crazy. Still arguing about thor possibly in Hulk's league (in strength)??

It's alms pathetic: in thor's own book Hulk wipes the floor with him and, at the end of the fight, Hulk's standing stronger than ever (not tired and without a scratch) while the thunder god is beaten badly, on his knees, his face swollen and bleeding. Hulk proved his point about the hammer being strong, not thor.

I won't even mention LTBB, where Hulk spanked him, without effort, with his own hammer. Humiliating, and further proof the thunder god is not at the physical level of the elite of most physically super beings in the MU.

Originally posted by Warrior Madness
Some of the thor fanboys are crazy. Still arguing about thor possibly in Hulk's league (in strength)??

It's alms pathetic: in thor's own book Hulk wipes the floor with him and, at the end of the fight, Hulk's standing stronger than ever (not tired and without a scratch) while the thunder god is beaten badly, on his knees, his face swollen and bleeding. Hulk proved his point about the hammer being strong, not thor.

I won't even mention LTBB, where Hulk spanked him, without effort, with his own hammer. Humiliating, and further proof the thunder god is not at the physical level of the elite of most physically super beings in the MU.

Yeah true good points mentioned ! But overall I guess Thor is more powerful and versatile then Hulk but Hulk is definitely more stronger...

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Thor versus ... some weird version of Hercules ...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Roman version, maybe? 😛

Pretty interesting.

IIRC, that was an early issue of AVENGERS where Space Phantom(or maybe it was Kang) had pulled people out of history to fight the Avengers, and this was quite a while before the Hercules we know.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Anointed one beat Superman to death. How u think it was even remotely equal is beyond me.

Uh no, they fought across Earth and then it was shown that he was blasted down to Earth.

He was not credited with killing superman anywhere in the comic.

Warmaker One was shown beating up on Clark.

These are only two scans of Warmaker one and Superman fighting. Do let me know where he looked stronger.

Cheetah overpowered Supes. Nowhere was it shown he was weakened. So easy to turn your logic on u. 😂

Yeah, right.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yEMJgvIdYn8/U7a4fSWPfcI/AAAAAAAABQQ/d1ivXA7sP3c/s1600/wonder+woman_174_12+Superman_Lyta_Cheetah.jpg

And the writer had even confirmed that Circe's magic weakened him.

So I repeat, are these three stronger than Supes based on feats?

Not even close. None of them even came close to shown overpowering Superman.

What excuse? You are showing exactly what I said. Hulk stopped fighting when his anger was subsiding. You have not made sense for two pages. We all know your go to actions when cornered. Smh...

Looking for innocents, eh?

Now straight up lying, huh?

Pity.

Sure it does. He wasn't even asked, yet he was compelled to proclaim that piece of information.

Of course he was asked and avoided the question.

If it makes u feel better about herself sure... Whatever u say.

And whatever you lie, right?

"May" is not a guarantee or a certainty u goof. facepalm

For Thor, it certainly is.

Ok for the last time... Since your thick skull seems unable to comprehend simple ideas. I'm of the opinion that Hulk edges Thor in strength based on my overall view of their feats. Full stop.

That's some concession right there.

However based on Marvel's published statements via their writers, it is not a definitive fact.

So you must have some proof that marvel published where Thor looked equal to Hulk in strength in last thirty years.

The fact that they throw out things like "eternal debate" even to this day, I'm flabbergasted by anyone who can honestly say that Marvel as a whole incontrovertibly believes that Hulk is the stronger of the two. Full stop. Now do you get it?

Marvel as a whole DOES believe that Hulk is stronger than Thor. Ask any writer about who is stronger between Hulk and Thor.

Or lift a Hulk comic while you are at it.

You just answered your question. It is a cop out. Why? Because to this day they don't have a definitive answer.

Of course they do.

Thor almost hits as hard as Hulk.

Hulk's slogan is not proof.

Right. Nothing is proof except one line from Bruce Banner.

Should we do our Battlezone now?

You just agreed it's a cop out. Now Thor is not in the running? You are a mess.

Its a cop out to answer the question. Thor isn't running the competition against Hulk in strength.

You are a full blown idiot.

Should I even bother with this? Smdh...

You can always lie about everything.

Imo, Hulk edges Thor. An opinion you've known for quite some time yet you tried to put up as a strawman because you're too much of a coward to back your claim. I hate to use that "C" word, but your white knight seems to love using it so I might as well. 🙂

You are such a coward that you can't even give a straightforward answer to anything which belittles your precious Thor.

"Hulk edges out Thor but marvel says they are equal. See, how fair I am".

Nice scans. It's too bad your scan involves an alternate bloodlusted Gladz and a holding back Thor who was watching out for innocents.

Haha, again with the "looking for innocents" shit?

Did this looking for innocents always drain Thor of his strength and durability.

Try again. Hopefully this time in a proper setting. All this smokescreen aside, are u finally ready?

Already did. There is nothing more to prove. Your turn showing Thor knocking out Gladiator in two punches now.

I'll wait.

Ugh. I'll touch this tomorrow. Just because I'm gone for a little bit doesn't mean you can go play with Cely, Abhi.

Originally posted by ozz81
Yeah true good points mentioned ! But overall I guess Thor is more powerful and versatile then Hulk but Hulk is definitely more stronger...

Yeah, he definitely is more versatile and has some high end powers from mjolnir itself (most of it aren't used at all, anyway) which can give him the edge.

Otherwise, he's totally outclassed.

Originally posted by Warrior Madness
Yeah, he definitely is more versatile and has some high end powers from mjolnir itself (most of it aren't used at all, anyway) which can give him the edge.

Otherwise, he's totally outclassed.

Originally posted by Damborgson
You disgrace yourself.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Ugh. I'll touch this tomorrow. Just because I'm gone for a little bit doesn't mean you can go play with Cely, Abhi.

Not really but Celey is just a clone of Rage at this point (Lying and all that shit).

Originally posted by Delta1938
IIRC, that was an early issue of AVENGERS where Space Phantom(or maybe it was Kang) had pulled people out of history to fight the Avengers, and this was quite a while before the Hercules we know.

Whoa. You have a broader base of comic knowledge than I thought --

I don't think I've heard the name "Space Phantom" in over a decade.

That would make some sense -- the one issue I had where he appeared, the pirate managed to set Spider-Man against She-Hulk by impersonating her and tricking him into helping "her" release the weighty/(magnetic?) seal off of an apparently ... immortal, voracious, incredibly durable, sentient and unified swarm of ... scarab beetles.

(No, despite what that probably sounds like, I'm not drunk, they actually did put that in a comic book.)

Pirate then set the Avengers against Spider-Man, who, unbelievably, had recruited the help of Thomas Fireheart the Puma, Hobie Brown the Prowler, and Flint Marko the Sandman, because Spider-Man knew that, with the potential for brainwashing being used against them, he'd need help against the Avengers, and that he would also need people who knew him well enough to take him at his word, despite his reputation in the public eye at the time.

What I mean to say is that the Space Pirate character seems to have featured in stories so obscure, yet alongside such common names (Hercules, Avengers, Spider-Man, etc), that, without help, I'd likely NEVER have discovered that on my own.
Now, not only does your suggestion sound right, but I have something to Google.

Thank you!