Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
And that for an unknown length of time that "Lobo" was a magical construct of Neron's while the real Lobo was trapped in Hell.
Originally posted by cdtm4 battles were posted on this page... 3 were a win for Superman, and 1 for Lobo. Then there's a fight where Superman punches Lobo out of orbit.
It's more consistent with their other fights, and Lobos other feats. Even Kryptonite X amped Superman and Despero couldn't cause near the damage Supes did in your example, so PIS.
4-1 at least. How is that consistent with their other fights where it's the only one that Lobo had won?
Maybe I'm forgetting something here, but really?
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb\
4 battles were posted on this page... 3 were a win for Superman, and 1 for Lobo. Then there's a fight where Superman punches Lobo out of orbit.4-1 at least. How is that consistent with their other fights where it's the only one that Lobo had won?
Maybe I'm forgetting something here, but really?
What four wins?
You're counting this as a win:
Come on now. That's hardly a win for several reasons..
The only real "win" in that story is Lar Gands, where he had Supes on the ground being strangled to death, until his own teammates turned their guns on him to stun him long enough to sort out the mess.
And the other two "wins" happened in the same story, when Superman was eclipsed, and the you could count Lobo strangling Supes between those "wins" as a win for him, since it was only broken up by the volcano they were in exploding.
But that entire story was a PIS showing for Lobo.
You're also neglecting to mention Lobo was fully cognizant after Superman (Who was amped!) punched him into orbit, showing no signs of taking damage.
You think that getting someone in chokehold =killing someone. Why do you think that superman was getting killed when he has koed Valor WHILE SUFFOCATING. In that scene too he was going toe to toe with lobo in the next page after Lar was choking him. If you want to go to that route then lobo has no wins over superman since he never koed him while superman has koed him 3 times. Your boy despero has also been oneshotted by superman btw. Your refusal to accept on panel proof and twisting them to your terms is getting annoying. Lobo has always been one league below superman.
Originally posted by cdtm
Even in that story, Lobo had Eclipso on the ropes and at his mercy, until the volcano exploded.But I prefer this.
It's more consistent with their other fights, and Lobos other feats. Even Kryptonite X amped Superman and Despero couldn't cause near the damage Supes did in your example, so PIS.
They have a draw from Lobo's series in the 90s as well.
It was in a story where guys being chased by Lobo, were huddled up scared and talking of his exploits. One of them being his fights with Superman. Its the one where it shows Lobo flinging Supes into a building, and then they are up in space trading punches in front of the sun.
Anyway, the Lobo that lost to Eclipso Supes, was a far cry from the one from Reign of Hell in power levels. Which is why its even more plausible to write that one off as the clone from Neron. Even if those stories were obviously years apart.
@ abhilegend just be glad it's a couple inconclusive fights out therefurious
Barring Darkseid it's hard to find a winning record for anyone in Supes rogue gallery vs. him.
Aside from Eclipso/Supes and that distracted headbutt, Lobo owned Supes the hardest. Might as well post the other page:
Oh and as far as speed, Supes stated in this scan "Lobo's so quick, so strong, no time to react" so I wouldn't say him having speed is PIS.
Lobo beating on Superman like that is an extreme outlier at this point. Overall, Superman has come off looking as the physical superior to Lobo consistently. As a matter of fact, wasn't that first battle retconned in the DC First one shot? IIRC, it was implied that Lobo could only hang with Superman due to his healing factor or something like that.
I'm in a rush so I'll have to find and post the battle later.
Lobo has managed to knock out Marvel in the past IIRC. Although it was a sucker shot and before that, I'd argue Marvel looked better.
Originally posted by Sundipped
@ abhilegend just be glad it's a couple inconclusive fights out therefuriousBarring Darkseid it's hard to find a winning record for anyone in Supes rogue gallery vs. him.
Aside from Eclipso/Supes and that distracted headbutt, Lobo owned Supes the hardest. Might as well post the other page:
Oh and as far as speed, Supes stated in this scan "Lobo's so quick, so strong, no time to react" so I wouldn't say him having speed is PIS.
In Valor, Lobo actually REPEATEDLY PUNCHED THROUGH laser vision.
I'd call that a speed feat.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lobo beating on Superman like that is an extreme outlier at this point. Overall, Superman has come off looking as the physical superior to Lobo consistently.
It's an outlier, but disagree about Superman consistently looking physically superior. In the retcon you mentioned, Supes was using his flight and maneuverability more than raw strength to manhandle Lobo.
And he has pretty good showings against other high end bricks, from Etrigan to Captain Marvel to Mon El. He even went a few rounds with Despero, knocked him off his feet, laughed off two devastating punches in the process, and proceeded to give Guy Gardner the worst beat down of his career.
And this is when Despero was one shotting Martian Manhunter, and throwing off the entire JLI including MM and Power Girl.
