Classic thor vs Lobo · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Naija boy
Lol at lobo stomping Thor based of that showing.....smh

I'm assuming your sarcastic post was directed at me. If so, you'll note that I only used Lobo's showing during RiH as a baseline. Why? Because in that showing we see him flat-out tank high-end magical attacks. That's very important here, because the majority of Thor's energy blasts are magical in nature. Never once did I say that was the only showing that was needed on Lobo's end. It, again, is just a good baseline to start with that depicts Lobo's resistance to magical attacks. Hopefully any miscommunication has been resolved now.
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Anyhow, I could also post scenes depicting Lobo smacking around fellas such as Etrigan and Shazam. They are, after all, magical beings as well. How about scans of him shredding through Hal, or Guy, or Ice Man (the cosmic guy from DC, not Bobby), or Despero, or Barda, or Valor, or Pulsar Stargrave, or cosmic Animal Man, or Devilance the Persuer (yes, the New God), or Apollo, etc, etc. (and that's not even tapping into his solo series)..?

Point here is that Lobo's got a whole gaggle of showings that lend well to this battle. Not saying Thor doesn't, but imo, Lobo does win. Could care less who disagrees. My stance isn't baseless.

Mr.Mxyzptlk Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless specified you can't just ignore the entire history of a character, show me the scan where it was stated that ENTIRE post-crisis history of lobo is null and void based upon "unknown" time.

I never made such a claim, so please don't put words in my mouth.

I was merely making note that from some point most likely after Underworld Unleashed and before Reign in Hell it wasn't actually Lobo.

Naija boy Senior Member

If you have tamed your stance from Lobo stomps to lobo wins ( based on that and his and thors other showings) then yeah it isnt baseless.....The former is still lolworthy while the latter is certainly plausible. 🙂

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by Naija boy
If you have tamed your stance from Lobo stomps to lobo wins ( based on that and his and thors other showings) then yeah it isnt baseless.....The former is still lolworthy while the latter is certainly plausible. 🙂

Based on that scan, yeah.

Based on this scan:

Lobo stomps. 😈

ozz81 Senior Member

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobo_(DC_Comics)

yeah even the wiki link states under powers and abilities section that his strengh powers and abilties fluctuate or change in each commic..sometimes less then a humans or greater...

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Sundipped
@ abhilegend just be glad it's a couple inconclusive fights out therefurious
Barring Darkseid it's hard to find a winning record for anyone in Supes rogue gallery vs. him.
Aside from Eclipso/Supes and that distracted headbutt, Lobo owned Supes the hardest. Might as well post the other page:
Oh and as far as speed, Supes stated in this scan "Lobo's so quick, so strong, no time to react" so I wouldn't say him having speed is PIS.

Oh you are wrong again. Eradicator has pounded superman worse than lobo ever did and tossed him in a red sun twice and even then he wasn't out. That was a low showing for superman more than a high showing for lobo. If you think a few pounding on a wall can take out superman then you're wrong.

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You are just using one fight to determine the winner when they have tangled many times more and superman even holding back always got better of lobo. You think lobo can speedblitz superman then you are just imagining. It was nothing but superman while brainwashed underestimating lobo and losing like Thor lost to hulk in Hulk annual 2001. If you are thinking he would lose to that way twice, think again.

So if no one has a winning record against then you are using only those fights where he lost, what kind of logic is that?

I think you forgot this image. What a good showing of 'BO

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by cdtm

The first punch would have been more than enough to level Martian Manhunter. Even Superman would be hurting by the second.

So, cdtm by your logic Black adam also lost to Captain nazi

Your boy despero

Sundipped MURDERER

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh you are wrong again. Eradicator has pounded superman worse than lobo ever did and tossed him in a red sun twice and even then he wasn't out. That was a low showing for superman more than a high showing for lobo. If you think a few pounding on a wall can take out superman then you're wrong.
You are just using one fight to determine the winner when they have tangled many times more and superman even holding back always got better of lobo. You think lobo can speedblitz superman then you are just imagining. It was nothing but superman while brainwashed underestimating lobo and losing like Thor lost to hulk in Hulk annual 2001. If you are thinking he would lose to that way twice, think again.
So if no one has a winning record against then you are using only those fights where he lost, what kind of logic is that?

What the hell does Eradicator have to do with anything? You're misinterpeted what I said. In case you missed it:

Originally posted by Sundipped
Aside from Eclipso/Supes and that distracted headbutt, Lobo owned Supes the hardest.

This means head to head (in that 1 instance) out of all their fights between only Lobo and Supes no amps/possesion/mind control/depowerment etc. Never heard Lobo say "can't take much more" or "I need help" during a fight with standardSupes.

Your Superman fanboyism is immensely evident now. So much to the point it's clouding your judgement. This is Classic Thor vs. Lobo. Not Lobo vs. Superman. Nobody said Lobo would take a majority vs. Kal so what the hell are you crying about? My first post was to point out a couple things to indicate that Lobo can indeed hang with Thor but you wanted to turn it into a Kal vs. Lobo thread and you want to keep using the same damn out of character Eclipso Superman scan to prove a moot point. Moot because a pissed Kal would wreck a lot of top tiers. Everyone knows this. Do yourself a favor and tone down the wanking. It's making you look bad.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, cdtm by your logic Black adam also lost to Captain nazi
Your boy despero

Just to be clear, are you arguing Superman is physically > Despero.

Yes or no question.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, cdtm by your logic Black adam also lost to Captain nazi

No, by my logic Superman lost to Mon El.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Sundipped
What the hell does Eradicator have to do with anything? You're misinterpeted what I said. In case you missed it:
This means head to head (in that 1 instance) out of all their fights between only Lobo and Supes no amps/possesion/mind control/depowerment etc. Never heard Lobo say "can't take much more" or "I need help" during a fight with standardSupes.
Your Superman fanboyism is immensely evident now. So much to the point it's clouding your judgement. This is Classic Thor vs. Lobo. Not Lobo vs. Superman. Nobody said Lobo would take a majority vs. Kal so what the hell are you crying about? My first post was to point out a couple things to indicate that Lobo can indeed hang with Thor but you wanted to turn it into a Kal vs. Lobo thread and you want to keep using the same damn out of character Eclipso Superman scan to prove a moot point. Moot because a pissed Kal would wreck a lot of top tiers. Everyone knows this. Do yourself a favor and tone down the wanking. It's making you look bad.

I brought eradicator because you claimed that lobo's pounding on superman's most brutal beating. Someone claimed that eclipso beating lobo was PIS so I call lobo beating superman PIS because he has taken much worse than a pounding on wall.
I didn't even commented on the fight at hand, I was just responding to your first post

Originally posted by Sundipped
For what it's worth, Superman has stated flat out on panel that he can't brawl with Lobo (the fight where Supes visually looked like an abused punching bag) and in another fight Lobo admitted that he heals faster than Supes can hurt him. Just saying, this holds a lot of weight.

Did you find me telling that lobo can't hang with thor? Who's crying? It's you and cdtm crying PIS on superman beating lobo and people have claimed thanos and despero stronger than superman/cap or hulk/thing for years. You nitpicking lobo being distracted when he was attacking superman doesn't hold much weight.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
people have claimed thanos and despero stronger than...thing

Because it's true?

They're stronger than Superman too, but questioning whether Bens weaker, of all characters, stuck out..

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

^Wow, hypocrisy much. Adam was helpless in that chokehold so he called down lightning and both he and nazi were ko'd. We've gone over this before

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you talking about this fight where superman was arrogant that he could beat Lar easily because he beat other daxamites in invasion and was in a fight with Lobo just before the fight.
Nowhere did Lobo "kicked superman's ass" as you claimed.
It's the only time Lar had an upper hand in the fight against superman
Kal was totally capable of getting out of that choke hold as evident by the next page where he goes toe to toe against Lobo

So according to you vril dox claiming valor was going to kill superman is true but superman was going against lobo just after that chokeup and we've seen superman while on the verge of passing ko mon-el anyway.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by abhilegend
That doesn't prove anything in Lar's favor anyway, here Lobo was choking superman out and just after that Kal nearly killed him with just one punch
frankly Lar's record against superman is very bad or do you think Superman getting choked after a fight with lobo is worse than this
Here he couldn't restrain Kal holding back even with the help of Starman and someone else I can't recognize
So getting an upper hand in a fight doesn't mean you are better than someone else when he ko's you along with someone else like superman did shortly after that.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Here is the scan of captain nazi "killing" black adam.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Odd that this much emphasis is being placed on just 'Lobo vs. Superman', when he [Lobo] has SO many other feats that can be used to help gauge his power.

This, for instance:
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4122/49461387.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/993/71456380.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7780/68030665.jpg

Lobo shrugging off a few punches from Shazam, then proceeding to momentarily incapacitate him with a single hit is huge.

cdtm Restricted

Originally posted by Galan007
Odd that this much emphasis is being placed on just 'Lobo vs. Superman', when he [Lobo] has SO many other feats that can be used to help gauge his power.
This, for instance:
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4122/49461387.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/993/71456380.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7780/68030665.jpg
Lobo shrugging off a few punches from Shazam, then proceeding to momentarily incapacitate him with a single hit is huge.

Agreed, absolutely.

All through the 90's, Lobo's been doing this.

The reason so much emphesis is placed on the Superman fights, is because abhilegend keeps on bringing up the Eclipso and Lar Gand/Lobo headbang examples in an effort to lowball Lobo.

Or maybe he simply has Superman blinders on and really believes Superman is > Despero. He all but admitted he thinks Supes is stronger than Despero, which is ridiculous.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by cdtm
Agreed, absolutely.
All through the 90's, Lobo's been doing this.
The reason so much emphesis is placed on the Superman fights, is because abhilegend keeps on bringing up the Eclipso and Lar Gand/Lobo headbang examples in an effort to lowball Lobo.
Or maybe he simply has Superman blinders on and really believes Superman is > Despero. He all but admitted he thinks Supes is stronger than Despero, which is ridiculous.

I never said superman>despero, where did you see me saying that? Now I believe 'BO and Lar gand are both above superman because they were "killing" him and adam is above nazi because nazi was "killing" him. Silly me, it's not like superman has other fights to draw upon! It's only lobo who has more fights.

Mr.Mxyzptlk Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend

Did you find me telling that lobo can't hang with thor? Who's crying? It's you and cdtm crying PIS on superman beating lobo and people have claimed thanos and despero stronger than superman/cap or hulk/thing for years. You nitpicking lobo being distracted when he was attacking superman doesn't hold much weight.

Right here.

As far as I can tell from what you wrote is that you disagree with people "claiming" that Despero and Thanos are stronger than Superman, Captain Marvel, Hulk and Thing.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Right here.
As far as I can tell from what you wrote is that you disagree with people "claiming" that Despero and Thanos are stronger than Superman, Captain Marvel, Hulk and Thing.

No, I agree that despero was much stronger than superman/cap in virtue and vice and is generally stronger than superman, but to say that in every fight he would just railroad him is wrong when we have other fights to draw upon. Same with thanos but he is always shown as much stronger than Prof. Hulk and thing combined but to say that he is always stronger than Hulk based on that fight is wrong.