Classic thor vs Lobo

How did Cap Nazi become so powerful? He was never a real threat to Cap.

^It's the single high end feat for nazi. Later diana wtfpwned him.

That was his best showing and is an extreme outlier for Captain Nazi as far as I can tell.

In that fight Abhilighend mentioned by the way, she was able to really mess him up in her human form by using a bit a handful of C4, then proceeded to tool him when she became Wonder Woman.

I've never understood why so many people use Eclipso Superman scans as probative of anything Superman would do. Eclipso amps his victims.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've never understood why so many people use Eclipso Superman scans as probative of anything Superman would do. Eclipso amps his victims.

He amps normals, but there's not much proof he amps high end bricks much, if at all.

In the same way Beta Ray Bill is already physically comparable to Thor without his hammer, and using a hammer maybe amps him a little bit, but insignificantly, vs a normal human with the hammer..

(For the record, this line of reasoning works against Supes as much as for him, since another feat fans like to drag out is his defeat of Eclipsed Mon El..)

Originally posted by cdtm
He amps normals, but there's not much proof he amps high end bricks much, if at all.

In the same way Beta Ray Bill is already physically comparable to Thor without his hammer, and using a hammer maybe amps him a little bit, but insignificantly, vs a normal human with the hammer..

(For the record, this line of reasoning works against Supes as much as for him, since another feat fans like to drag out is his defeat of Eclipsed Mon El..)

It's an amp. Puts normals like Jean Loring and Bruce Gordon at herald levels and possibly beyond.

I understand that by all appearances, it seems to scale down when the base character's power levels are already high to begin with, but Eclipso does amp its victims. And I've seen no proof that the amp is insignificant. Eclipso isn't like Deadman.

Superman wins either way, he beat an Eclipso possessed Mon-El IIRC.

Still, from what I remember of those comics (Been a while) I'd say there was no real amp, just blood lust.

^ You'd best not let carver9 hear you say that.

Lol, I had him in mind when I said that.

Too bad he didn't reply, thought it was enough to get a discussion going again.

On a more serious note, I remember discussing the nature of Eclipso's possession a while ago, I'll see if I can find the thread to jog my memory regarding the subject.

^ This should help:

Originally posted by Philosophía
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http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/EclipsoAmp.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman wins either way, he beat an Eclipso possessed Mon-El IIRC.

Pretty much.

Although, Mon El was also out of the sun for awhile. Like Superman, that should mean his powers gradually diminish.

Is DC Universe: Last Sons in continuity?
http://www.graphicaudio.net/p-594-dc-universe-last-sons.aspx

Originally posted by "Id"
Is DC Universe: Last Sons in continuity?
http://www.graphicaudio.net/p-594-dc-universe-last-sons.aspx

I loved that novel.

Is it a one shot? It probably uses the main DCU characters but it's not set in any specific point in history.

It's not on Youtube. 🙁

Sounds like a fun audio, but I probably wouldn't consider it canon.

Also, would you call Mon El and Supermans non Eclipso fight a win for Mon El, or not?

Well its a book, or an Audio Book.

I dont what the canonical rules are regarding Novels based on comics.