I think this thread has bene done before.
Both are super human. However, the Twilight werewolves could fight almost on even "foot" with the Twilight vamps. The Twilight vamps are leagues better than the Underworld vamps.
By the transitive relational property (math...bare with me), can we conclude that A > C?
I am not sure. The Twilight werewolves have less "mobility" than the Underworld version. The Underworld versions can standup and user their arms like hoomanz.
William was a pure blood - the very first Werewolf Tannis told Selene and Michael. Lucian was the next generation of Werewolf. Both Lucian and William have hundreds of years of combat experience. TwiWolves do not due to the fact they are mortal. Jacob had his ass handed to him by a New Born - he couldn't face Lucian or William in a fight. Besides, William would turn Forks into his personal playground and the Cullens wouldn't be able to stop him. Thousands of pure-blood Lycans in Forks.
Ugh I hate when people challenge Twilight things, they're written as "the perfect monster" with no flaws, just benefits. From the start, they have an unfair advantage because Stephenie Meyer wrote a tween series where the vampires sparkle and the werewolves can choose when to change. The only downsides are found in being human.
So I can never answer these things fairly, I always take fifty points off of the twi-creatures just for the principle of the thing.
Originally posted by golem370
Other then the elder vamps in Underworld the average vampire seems scared to take on a werewolf alone
Yep, most non-elder vampires need weapons (and lots if it) to put down a Lycan (and even then usually fail). Elders like Viktor on the other hand, can bitchslap them with ease.
That suddenly made me think... why didn't Amelia own the Lycans in the first movie? I know they were ambushed, but with her keen senses, superior strength and speed she should've been able to kill them all or at least flee.
Originally posted by Placidity
Yep, most non-elder vampires need weapons (and lots if it) to put down a Lycan (and even then usually fail). Elders like Viktor on the other hand, can bitchslap them with ease.That suddenly made me think... why didn't Amelia own the Lycans in the first movie? I know they were ambushed, but with her keen senses, superior strength and speed she should've been able to kill them all or at least flee.
There were several "elder" lycans in that group...maybe.
If they had Raze and Lucian, they could probably take down a train car full of vampires with one being an elder.
Remember that Lucian was a bit more than a match for Viktor. Amelia is younger than Viktor.
So having two "elder" Lycans against only 1 elder and some fodder should be a landslide victory for the Lycans. Consider that it looks like a group of Lycans did the killing (look at the massacre as Selene investigates the mess).
Side note: Amelia is the most unexplored interesting character from the Underworld series. A female elder vampire: Come ON! They should have kept her around until at least 2...or given her some feats with screen time.
Viktor punked Raze because he had already been a vamp for at least a few decades to a century before Raze even got turned. The gap wasn't that great between he and Lucian though, especially since Lucian was the first Lycan.
Amelia got torn up because I believe she got turned long after Michael turned Viktor, so while she was the 3rd oldest vampire in existence, it wasn't enough.
Originally posted by Psychotron
I'm going with the Underworld werewolves. The Twilight wolves didn't do shit aside from run and try to bite things.
Well what else were Twiwolves going to do besides "bite things" ?
This is actually an interesting battle since I believe they are both equally vulnerable to each other. Twiwolves can rip them apart with their bite, and Lycans have razor sharp claws (slash to the throat might end it), a lesser bite and also a humanoid advantage.
Both are pretty fast although Twiwolves are shown to be able to catch Twivamps so that gives them a small advantage, however I think the humanoid Lycans give them a maneuverability advantage.
Healing factor-wise I think the Twiwolves are vastly inferior, Jacob was whining like a little girl for hours after having his ribs broken. I suspect it would take a Lycan far less time to heal from a similar injury. However, overall the point is likely moot because even though Lycans heal faster, it ain't going to help if they are missing a large chunk of flesh from a Twiwolf bite.
The thing I really want to know which will probably determine my view on the fight is the durability of the Twiwolves...not much indication of what level they are at. I mean Jacob got crushed, but that was by a new-born.
Undecided...
In Underworld, two Lycans who were old/experienced enough to shift at will were going at it when Lucian broke it up. They were covered in cuts and gashes when they turned back human, and were healed in seconds.
And while the Lycan getting stronger with age thing isn't specifically stated, I think it's implied since the older lycans could take silver without many problems, shift at will, things of that nature. And it's not out of the question considering Micheal and William were essentially equal immortals, with the only difference ending up being what they were bitten by.
I'm just going to come into this thread and point out that Lucian seems to believe that, by the time of the first Underworld movie, he would be unable to take on Viktor, despite defeating him in the past.
This implies that even particularly powerful Lycans like Lucian don't seem to get stronger with age, or at least not to the same extent as a vampire.