Gladiator vs Superman

Originally posted by carver9
The only time it drops is when someone WEAKER THAN HIM tank an attack that they should have either been killed or koed by.

Your logic fails miserably.

In your previous post you said that Gladiator is superior to Superman in every way, then you said that Gladiator's confidence drops when he faces weaker opponents, who can handle him quite well.

And now I'm the one with the weak logic, because I said that the confidence would doom Gladiator?

Besides that:

- His confidence does not matter in a fight against Tyrant, since Gladiator was the one who was meant to lose from the very first beginning...
- His confidence didn't drop against Hyperion, because Gladiator is clearly about a regular Hyperion...
- Is the fight against Superme a canon fight at all? Just because Invincible teams up with Spider-Man, it doesn't instantly mean that they had that adventure...
- Skrulls and superhumans are to power houses the exact same thing which are elite ninjas and soldiers to street levelers: cannon fodder...
- What's so impressive about Binary? She is a planet buster via energy projection and he knocked her away with physical damage...

What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Cannonball?
What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Hulk?
What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Sue Storm, who was beating the crap out of Gladiator in melee combat?!

It was loooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Answer me a question Carver9. How much do you exactly know about Gladiator? It looks like your knowledge it totally based on his respect thread, but respect threads are quite often not enough to judge a character, because they only show the good fights and ignore all the bad ones.
Just because you can see Gladiator defeating Thor in bunch of the posted fights, you instantly refuse to believe that he can lose, simply because there is no loss in that thread. Who wonders? Respect thread anyone? Not Carver9.

Originally posted by Enzeru
In your previous post you said that Gladiator is superior to Superman in every way, then you said that Gladiator's confidence drops when he faces weaker opponents, who can handle him quite well.

And now I'm the one with the weak logic, because I said that the confidence would doom Gladiator?

Besides that:

- His confidence does not matter in a fight against Tyrant, since Gladiator was the one who was meant to lose from the very first beginning...
- His confidence didn't drop against Hyperion, because Gladiator is clearly about a regular Hyperion...
- Is the fight against Superme a canon fight at all? Just because Invincible teams up with Spider-Man, it doesn't instantly mean that they had that adventure...
- Skrulls and superhumans are to power houses the exact same thing which are elite ninjas and soldiers to street levelers: cannon fodder...
- What's so impressive about Binary? She is a planet buster via energy projection and he knocked her away with physical damage...

What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Cannonball?
What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Hulk?
What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Sue Storm, who was beating the crap out of Gladiator in melee combat?!

It was loooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Answer me a question Carver9. How much do you exactly know about Gladiator? It looks like your knowledge it totally based on his respect thread, but respect threads are quite often not enough to judge a character, because they only show the good fights and ignore all the bad ones.
Just because you can see Gladiator defeating Thor in bunch of the posted fights, you instantly refuse to believe that he can lose, simply because there is no loss in that thread. Who wonders? Respect thread anyone? Not Carver9.

Not trying to be mean but you are not good at this. Gladiator confidence drop 'due to plot"...it has nothing to do with the other persons power level
His confidence dropped against Cannonball because Cannonball is a meta that TANKED a punch that should have killed him.

Sue Storm didn't have a thing to do with Gladiator confidence dropping. She had her part in it but it had NOTHING to do with her power level. Reed...a weakling had Captain America shield in front of him and Sue turned it invisible. Gladiator thinking that he is punching Reed is hitting at him with City level destroying punches and Reed, someone that is far weaker than Gladiator stood there with a smile on his face. Gladiator knows Reed isn't suppose to be tanking these attacks and His confidence drops.

Lol...Gladiator confidence never dropped against Hulk...lol. His radiation weakness was on the battlefield which weakened him.

All this information that you just put in this post. Is this something you learned from comicvine.

The only time Gladiator confidence drop is due to a plot...people withstanding attacks that should outright kill them. Him fighting Superman, Thor, Surfer, that will not happen because there isn't one shed of proof that it will happen.

OWNED.

Originally posted by carver9
Pretty much. Gladiator by all means is superior to Supes in every category imo.

You just agreed with Colossus, who agreed with me that Superman would win.

Originally posted by carver9
Why didnt his confident drop against Tyrant? Why didn't his confidence drop against Hyperion? Why didn't his confidence drop against Supreme? Why didn't his confidence drop when he fought an entire space fleet of Skrulls and superhumans that invaded the Shiar Empire? Why didn't his confidence dropped when he fought Binary or a gang of Centurians?

The only time it drops is when someone WEAKER THAN HIM tank an attack that they should have either been killed or koed by.

Your logic fails miserably.

Your logic isn't exactly stellar, tbh.

Originally posted by carver9
Not trying to be mean but you are not good at this. Gladiator confidence drop 'due to plot"...it has nothing to do with the other persons power level

You're the guy who believes that Sentry release his maximum power output during the fight against WW Hulk. I'm not sure if you're the one who can judge how the confidence works.

Originally posted by carver9
His confidence dropped against Cannonball because Cannonball is a meta that TANKED a punch that should have killed him.

He didn't tank it. Take a close look at the scan. Judging by that moment of Gladiator's fail history, it's to assume that there is not much of his skill, since he is not able to tell the difference between taking planet busting hits and simply redirecting the energy.

Originally posted by carver9
Reed...a weakling had Captain America shield in front of him and Sue turned it invisible.

That's not the instance I'm talking about.
I was talking about the instance where he faced Sue Storm who was wielding the Unipower. Now Sue Storm is only an ordinary human with ordinary strenght and the Unipowers increases the hosts strenght my a minimum of x50, up to x7.500, but in the end that should not have been enough to actually go toe on toe with Gladiator, which Sue did, since his telekinesis got boosted aswell and she was able to tank his damage and his confidence dropped.

If he struggels, because his enemy is more powerful in the long run, he starts losing his confidence.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Gladiator confidence never dropped against Hulk...lol. His radiation weakness was on the battlefield which weakened him.

Didn't that happen after the fight was already over, since Hulk grabbed his face, while he was still doing the Heat Vision? Way to go Gladiator, way to go. Only a smart warrior, would use his limitless strenght, so jump back few meters and then continue shooting the Heat Vision from a safe distance.

Originally posted by carver9
The only time Gladiator confidence drop is due to a plot...people withstanding attacks that should outright kill them. Him fighting Superman, Thor, Surfer, that will not happen because there isn't one shed of proof that it will happen.

In the end all of these characters have a greater versatility and therefore ways to defeat Gladiator, or are simply more powerful and don't have problems in dealing with him.
Gladiator also already got overwhelmed by an energy manipulating random alien 😘

Originally posted by carver9
OWNED.

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Yo Yo Yo

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Sucker tried to play me
But you never paid me, never

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Payback is a' coming
You will be runnin', forever

Originally posted by -Pr-
You just agreed with Colossus, who agreed with me that Superman would win.

Your logic isn't exactly stellar, tbh.

Depending on Gladiator mindset, Supes could possibly pull a majority. If Gladiator means business, it ain't happening.

Lololol...my knowledge is almost next to none.

Originally posted by carver9
Depending on Gladiator mindset, Supes could possibly pull a majority. If Gladiator means business, it ain't happening.

Lololol...my knowledge is almost next to none.

Only if you ignore Superman's superior feats, fights, powers etc.

Pretty much yeah.

Originally posted by dmills
My take. Although they have for all intents and purposes the exact same power set, even if all things were considered equal, I think Supes has a superior set of tactics.

Since I've begun my reinterest in DC, one if the things that I've come to appreciate about Superman is that he has an almost criminally underrated tactical mind. Particularly during combat. I've always leaned towards characters that can wield both the scalpel and the sledgehammer with equal aptitude. We know Supes can wield a sledge hammer, but as his battle with the Elite exemplified, the man can be one hell of a surgeon if need be.

Glads is all Sledge hammer.

Well not all sledge hammer Glads fight with hyperion said they were basic equals and Glads won because he had superior fighting skills.

Originally posted by Enzeru
You're the guy who believes that Sentry release his maximum power output during the fight against WW Hulk. I'm not sure if you're the one who can judge how the confidence works.

He didn't tank it. Take a close look at the scan. Judging by that moment of Gladiator's fail history, it's to assume that there is not much of his skill, since he is not able to tell the difference between taking planet busting hits and simply redirecting the energy.

That's not the instance I'm talking about.
I was talking about the instance where he faced Sue Storm who was wielding the Unipower. Now Sue Storm is only an ordinary human with ordinary strenght and the Unipowers increases the hosts strenght my a minimum of x50, up to x7.500, but in the end that should not have been enough to actually go toe on toe with Gladiator, which Sue did, since his telekinesis got boosted aswell and she was able to tank his damage and his confidence dropped.

If he struggels, because his enemy is more powerful in the long run, he starts losing his confidence.

Didn't that happen after the fight was already over, since Hulk grabbed his face, while he was still doing the Heat Vision? Way to go Gladiator, way to go. Only a smart warrior, would use his limitless strenght, so jump back few meters and then continue shooting the Heat Vision from a safe distance.

In the end all of these characters have a greater versatility and therefore ways to defeat Gladiator, or are simply more powerful and don't have problems in dealing with him.
Gladiator also already got overwhelmed by an energy manipulating random alien 😘

Oh no, Oh no, Oh no
Yo Yo Yo

Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!

Sucker tried to play me
But you never paid me, never

Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!
Oh no, you didn't!

Payback is a' coming
You will be runnin', forever

It was stated on panel Sentry didn't hold back. First you need to stay on topic...2nd,.lets.not get mad because Hulk sent Reynolds to the hospital.

Sigh*...how am I suppose to debate against a guy that doesn't know what he is talking about. Gladiator said that this punch had enough power in it to send Cannonball to the core of the sun and that it would kill Sam. Sam agreed and was in fear of death "until he learned a new technique that absorbed Gladiator punch by absorbing the kinetic energy from it". In Gladiator mind, that punch was suppose to kill Sam (which is the reason why Gladiator lost confidence). Sam TANKED the punch.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/116/99564040gc5.jpg/

Now I ask this again. Show me Gladiator losing confidence against a peer or someone superior than him or "stop responding to my post".

And lol at you thinking Sue with the unipower is a weakling. Also...lol at you saying Gladiator lost confidence during that fight.

Don't respond to my post until you have proof or I WILL ignore you.

Thanks.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Only if you ignore Superman's superior feats, fights, powers etc.

Pretty much yeah.

That's the problem...I don't think Superman fts are superior.

Really carver, tell me about those feats, please?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really carver, tell me about those feats, please?

I already told you these fts.

Originally posted by carver9
That's the problem...I don't think Superman fts are superior.

And yet you haven't provided Gladiator ones.

Originally posted by carver9
I already told you these fts.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And yet you haven't provided Gladiator ones.

What kind of ft would you like to see?

Originally posted by abhilegend
When, where?

Plenty of times. What fts would you like to know?

Gladiator wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Plenty of times. What fts would you like to know?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Any type of feat. I am just curious to see those mysterious feats which no one has ever seen.

I'll PM you the links.

Share them with no one!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Any type of feat. I am just curious to see those mysterious feats which no one has ever seen.

Him working Heralds is part of the fts I'm referencing.