Originally posted by Enzeru
In your previous post you said that Gladiator is superior to Superman in every way, then you said that Gladiator's confidence drops when he faces weaker opponents, who can handle him quite well.And now I'm the one with the weak logic, because I said that the confidence would doom Gladiator?
Besides that:
- His confidence does not matter in a fight against Tyrant, since Gladiator was the one who was meant to lose from the very first beginning...
- His confidence didn't drop against Hyperion, because Gladiator is clearly about a regular Hyperion...
- Is the fight against Superme a canon fight at all? Just because Invincible teams up with Spider-Man, it doesn't instantly mean that they had that adventure...
- Skrulls and superhumans are to power houses the exact same thing which are elite ninjas and soldiers to street levelers: cannon fodder...
- What's so impressive about Binary? She is a planet buster via energy projection and he knocked her away with physical damage...What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Cannonball?
What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Hulk?
What happened to Gladiator's confidence when he faced Sue Storm, who was beating the crap out of Gladiator in melee combat?!It was loooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Answer me a question Carver9. How much do you exactly know about Gladiator? It looks like your knowledge it totally based on his respect thread, but respect threads are quite often not enough to judge a character, because they only show the good fights and ignore all the bad ones.
Just because you can see Gladiator defeating Thor in bunch of the posted fights, you instantly refuse to believe that he can lose, simply because there is no loss in that thread. Who wonders? Respect thread anyone? Not Carver9.
Ohh...
Originally posted by EnzeruIt was more that Hulk caused his eye beams to feed back into his skull and then the radiation bath.
Oh let me guess, it was the radiation in the tank where Hulk put him in later on, right?Because 100 x 7.500 = above Gladiator's strenght, right?
That doesn't make sense. If you're referring to some vague equation that you think controls the amount of amp that the Unipower gives, the Unipower doesn't adhere to a strict equation. My evidence is every appearance of the Unipower.
Gladiator wins. Stronger, faster and more skilled at close combat. Gladiators powers allow him to get stronger the more he believes in himself.
Gladiators fight with a bloodlusted supreme ( who is FAR above current superman ) is proof enough. Gladiator destroyed a planet with his fists. If you want the size of the planet, its easy to determine.. First its the largest planet in the area, the writer let it be known. The planet had an entire race, the planet endured the death of galaxys thus it was described as a rock which let the reader know that it was very durable. There was even life on that planet. ( the thing that attacked gladiator )... Also look at the size of the area gladiator was standing on after he destroyed that massive planet.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It was more that Hulk caused his eye beams to feed back into his skull and then the radiation bath.
The radiation bath was just the dot on the i. Gladiator already failed above by 1. getting his ear drums *****-clapped and secondly by getting his head grabbed and Heat Vision redirected inside. Way to be an experienced warrior.
Not try to use some high quality logic.
If Gladiator's Heat Vision manages to burn Hulk's entire chest, then it should managed to burn through his hands for sure, if the power level doesn't go back, because of his confidence.
Now imagine me standing in front of you and shooting with a gun at you. The bullet with go through your chest and probably stop in your body. If I shoot at your hand, the bullet will go through.
You realize where I'm coming from? No, not from the ghetto. I'm trying to explain you the logic.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That doesn't make sense. If you're referring to some vague equation that you think controls the amount of amp that the Unipower gives, the Unipower doesn't adhere to a strict equation. My evidence is every appearance of the Unipower.
That actually makes perfect sense, since I made it the perfect conditions for Sue.
The Unipower increases the hosts abilities. The strenght is one of the attributes which gets increase.
I assumed that Sue is a 100 kilogramm max human and that is actually generous, I think. Then I multiplied that with 7.500, basically the highest amount the Unipower can give you, if your will is super strong. The smallest amount would be 50, but I took 7.500...
100 x 7.500 = 750.000 kilogramms, basically 750 tons was the strenght level of Sue Storm during that fight and I doubt even that, yet she was beating the crap out of Gladiator.
Why? I would say that his confidence was low, since he had to deal with someone who he wasn't really able to hurt, because of her other abilities.
To your defense, it could be said that that comic was ignoring Gladiator's past feats, since he had to take the Unipower to increase his own flight speed, to reach a tsunami which was "far" away and even then he needed 2 minutes for it. Not exactly 100 times faster then the speed of light, huh. But who knows, maybe his confidence was really freakin' low because of his encounter with Sue.
Originally posted by carver9
Stated on panel...Gladiator wasn't there to fight Hulk.
Learn what the Unipower is.
Go and wash yourself.
Originally posted by carver9
Not trying to be mean but you are not good at this. Gladiator confidence drop 'due to plot"...it has nothing to do with the other persons power level
His confidence dropped against Cannonball because Cannonball is a meta that TANKED a punch that should have killed him.Sue Storm didn't have a thing to do with Gladiator confidence dropping. She had her part in it but it had NOTHING to do with her power level. Reed...a weakling had Captain America shield in front of him and Sue turned it invisible. Gladiator thinking that he is punching Reed is hitting at him with City level destroying punches and Reed, someone that is far weaker than Gladiator stood there with a smile on his face. Gladiator knows Reed isn't suppose to be tanking these attacks and His confidence drops.
Lol...Gladiator confidence never dropped against Hulk...lol. His radiation weakness was on the battlefield which weakened him.
All this information that you just put in this post. Is this something you learned from comicvine.
The only time Gladiator confidence drop is due to a plot...people withstanding attacks that should outright kill them. Him fighting Superman, Thor, Surfer, that will not happen because there isn't one shed of proof that it will happen.
OWNED.
Who the hell uses "OWNED" after the end of their argument? That pretty much negates the whole argument and makes you look like a tool for doing so.
Originally posted by EnzeruHis loss had nothing to do with confidence. Nothing you've said suggests otherwise.
The radiation bath was just the dot on the i. Gladiator already failed above by 1. getting his ear drums *****-clapped and secondly by getting his head grabbed and Heat Vision redirected inside. Way to be an experienced warrior.Not try to use some high quality logic.
If Gladiator's Heat Vision manages to burn Hulk's entire chest, then it should managed to burn through his hands for sure, if the power level doesn't go back, because of his confidence.Now imagine me standing in front of you and shooting with a gun at you. The bullet with go through your chest and probably stop in your body. If I shoot at your hand, the bullet will go through.
You realize where I'm coming from? No, not from the ghetto. I'm trying to explain you the logic.
Originally posted by EnzeruThat doesn't make sense. If you're referring to some vague equation that you think controls the amount of amp that the Unipower gives, the Unipower doesn't adhere to a strict equation. My evidence is every appearance of the Unipower.
That actually makes perfect sense, since I made it the perfect conditions for Sue.
The Unipower increases the hosts abilities. The strenght is one of the attributes which gets increase.
I assumed that Sue is a 100 kilogramm max human and that is actually generous, I think. Then I multiplied that with 7.500, basically the highest amount the Unipower can give you, if your will is super strong. The smallest amount would be 50, but I took 7.500...100 x 7.500 = 750.000 kilogramms, basically 750 tons was the strenght level of Sue Storm during that fight and I doubt even that, yet she was beating the crap out of Gladiator.
Why? I would say that his confidence was low, since he had to deal with someone who he wasn't really able to hurt, because of her other abilities.To your defense, it could be said that that comic was ignoring Gladiator's past feats, since he had to take the Unipower to increase his own flight speed, to reach a tsunami which was "far" away and even then he needed 2 minutes for it. Not exactly 100 times faster then the speed of light, huh. But who knows, maybe his confidence was really freakin' low because of his encounter with Sue.
Originally posted by Lord FeronWhat happened was superman heated the asteroid until it turned to glass. Then he fired his HV off at it and it reflected back at glads. Yeah its actually pretty good imo.
1. IS the picture above Gladiator fighting 2 supermen? Or was there some kind of magical asteroid with the ability to reflect energy ? Confused... like the effort for fan art!
Originally posted by EnzeruThe Unipower's nature, which has fluctuated up and down like the stock market for the sake of plot, has little to do with this confidence myth people keep trying to construct/deconstruct. My evidence is every appearance of the Unipower and every appearance of Gladiator.
1. Why did Daredevil ask the Unipower to leave him?
2. How did Krosakis gain the Unipower?