Batman vs Iron fist

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
With the help of some context.

He actually stalemated 3boot Val, who can pretty much do anything Danny can do. Almost.

Hey Prep-Man remember when 3boot Val got beat up by telepathic security guards? 😈

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Mind control makes characters sloppy.

DD has better body reading than Batgirl, his has trumped a superhuman with legitimate precog. DD is more formidable in melee that Batman is. 😎

doh

stop hatin' on bats and you're lucky i like DD. i'd take dd over bats in h2h because of the radar, not because of skill. i'd say bats>dd in overall skill, but not by much. i see danny and dd as roughly the same level skillwise.

Batman pummels IF with the hammers of justice.

I KNEW you were going to say that. 😈

Those high tech guards could be > Danny as well.

Originally posted by jalek moye
The BP fight was semi recent so not as much. But he has been portrayed as better since the cap fight which was very early on.

But yeah when mind controlled against BP he was basically just swinging around, even tried to hit him with a car (by driving it) hard to say he was fighting at his best skill wise. :/

fair enough, but likewise bp wasn't really going for the kill either. i see danny>bp skillwise, but the gap isn't all that great imo.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Scenario one Batman gets brutalized. Scenario two Danny gets put to sleep with gas.

Danny would do as well or better (read: better) than Bruce did against those KK. I would give IF a comfortable majority against 3boot KK.

pretty much this.

Originally posted by leonidas
doh

stop hatin' on bats and you're lucky i like DD. i'd take dd over bats in h2h because of the radar, not because of skill. i'd say bats>dd in overall skill, but not by much. i see danny and dd as roughly the same level skillwise.

Daredevil is Batman... if Batman had Cass's body reading and Nightwing's speed and agility. Matt is as strong and as skilled as Bruce, as fast and agile as Nightwing, and he has a radar sense that affords him better body reading than Batgirl. DD > Batman. 😎

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Daredevil is Batman... if Batman had Cass's body reading and Nightwing's speed and agility. Matt is as strong and as skilled as Bruce, as fast and agile as Nightwing, and he has a radar sense that affords him better body reading than Batgirl. DD > Batman. 😎

i agree with pretty much all of this, except the skill, which dd makes up for with the agility and body reading. you really think danny is significantly better than dd in h2h?? what makes you think that?

Tbh, in a straight up fight sans weapons and gadgets, I have a hard time seeing Batman beating Daredevil.

I'm also curious what skill feats of Bruce we're using to justify him being = or > Danny.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
pretty much this.

3boot Val has the speed advantage, IMO. He dodged Ultraboy, killed a cybernetic creature that was pounding on the Legion by himeslf. And this was when his arm was injured. KK > IF.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Tbh, in a straight up fight sans weapons and gadgets, I have a hard time seeing Batman beating Daredevil.

I'm also curious what skill feats of Bruce we're using to justify him being = or > Danny.

Batman will be facing off against Talon. Someone who survived a fall from a tall building and is close or Bullseye lite.

batman is so overrated on theses forums its not funny.

batsiee dies in one and can possible win in 2.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Batman will be facing off against Talon. Someone who survived a fall from a tall building and is close or Bullseye lite.

I assumed this was pre-reboot Bats, who has a wealth of feats to draw upon to make things fair. Though, DCnU Bats is more or less the same guy anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.

I see Danny doing at least as well against Talon in terms of sheer skill. With chi, I see him beating the crap out of him.

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree with pretty much all of this, except the skill, which dd makes up for with the agility and body reading. you really think danny is significantly better than dd in h2h?? what makes you think that?

Even sans body reading DD is more or less as skilled as Bruce.

I don't think IF is significantly better than DD, I think he is slightly more skilled than Matt, just like he is slightly more skilled than Batman. But DD has abilities Batman lacks that allow him to pose a bigger threat in melee combat despite being less skilled. Batman vs Iron Fist wouldn't play out anything like the fights between Matt and Danny, Matt's radar sense is a huge boon to his combat abilities.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Batman will be facing off against Talon. Someone who survived a fall from a tall building and is close or Bullseye lite.

And Danny beat down a guy sans chi, who tanks Luke Cage punches, and building busting attacks and had the range advantage. Said guy is also a martial arts master

If this is reboot Batman he gets his ass kicked so hard that it isn't even funny.

Originally posted by jalek moye
And Danny beat down a guy sans chi, who tanks Luke Cage punches, and building busting attacks and had the range advantage. Said guy is also a martial arts master

I'm not doubting IF. He's one of my favs, but Val did manage to kill a creature that both Timber Wolf and Ultraboy couldn't dent. Cage isn't near Ultraboy.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I'm not doubting IF. He's one of my favs, but Val did manage to kill a creature that both Timber Wolf and Ultraboy couldn't dent. Cage isn't near Ultraboy.

My posts was a response to you talking about batman about to face talon, and naming his feat. Not KK

Well, we need to see more of DCnU Batman. It's only been a handful of issues and he's going to face some formidable streets. Nobody and Talon, plus the whole Court of Owls.