Bench Press Contest

Originally posted by MF DELPH
The book wasn't weightess, the pages within the binding were. Infinite tangible pages would mean infinite mass and area, yet those pages didn't take up all the room in the entire universe and then some, and also fit within the confines of the book's binding, which was a finite space. The pages were a massless never ending magical construct. The only thing they lifted of actual substance was the binding, which had an undefined, yet apparently immense, amount of weight.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I work with a guy who thought half of 10 was 3.

I have lost all hope for people I previously thought were trolling on this forum since I know people can be this... slow.

also, just logically the book could not have been infinite weight..,

it it were, it would have an infinite center of gravity, essentially creating a blackhole into which everything would be suctioned into...yet it did not. hence it was not infinite weight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The scan already said he was more powerful. This is why people don't take you seriously. You don't understand the comics and simple sentences.

I already said he is more powerful than Savage Hulk...the only Hulk the Vampire nation know of.

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, you're so hung up on hulk you're missing the point. the feat is invalid because we know superman does not have limitless strength...jeez, jake, its not some crazy conspiracy to deny superman that feat its legitimacy.

The reason why this was brought up in the first place is because TheHulk and Carver believe that no one has lifting feats greater than the Hulk.

Which is not true.

I certainly don't think as a rule Thor's strong enough to move the Nine Realms physically. And I don't think as a rule Hercules's physical strength is enough to support the enormity of the heavens. But they did those things. Unquantifiable to be sure, but canon nonetheless. PIS? If you want to call it that, sure. But it still happened.

Not liking it doesn't make it not true.

It was an extremely high end feat that dwarfs anything Superman ever did, and likely, will ever do (barring some crazy event).

I don't see what's hard about accepting that.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
The book wasn't weightess, the pages within the binding were. Infinite tangible pages would mean infinite mass and area, yet those pages didn't take up all the room in the entire universe and then some, and also fit within the confines of the book's binding, which was a finite space. The pages were a massless never ending magical construct. The only thing they lifted of actual substance was the binding, which had an undefined, yet apparently immense, amount of weight.

Originally posted by carver9
I already said he is more powerful than Savage Hulk...the only Hulk the Vampire nation know of.

Originally posted by Starscream M
canon does not mean legitimate though

PIS feats that are canon are still not considered valid evidence of any sort

and this feat (if you posit the book to be infinite weight) is PIS on the highest order

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did they compare Nul to savage Hulk ? The feat doesn't count no matter how badly you want it to it still doesn't.

I agree, its nor usable...the mods ruled it out.

Originally posted by Galan007
It was specifically stated that the book DID have an infinite number of pages (several times), and that those pages all occupied the same space. Superman also made it a point to say that the reason he needed Marv's help is because the book contained an infinite amount of pages--not because the non-existent "bindings" were super-duper heavy.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's your opinion. In that arc, Supes also beat the most powerful threat DC has ever faced because his story is > ALL. Some might call that PIS--doesn't make it any less legit.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so if it was infinite pages, how come it had finite size...such that superman was able to even hold it? huh HUH! GOTCHA!

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He didn't fight Black Adam. 🤨

Lol this is the way I see it - feel free to disagree.

I'm an engineer by training. So when I read about the Speed Force, or X-genes, or some celestial force that has existed before the beginning of time, I suspend my belief.

When I read that Superman has lifted half of infinity, yes, its stupid as hell. I suspend my belief, just like I don't start spouting off equations proving how Quicksilver cannot run at XYZ speeds or that a healing factor is stupid. Its a story.

So when Superman, on panel, is shown to be lifting infinity (which is a mathematical concept) - well, sure, its stupid. But its a lifting feat. And quantifiable.

My point is that arguing against Superman lifting that book is like arguing against any of the Hulk's lifting feats. To some of you, like carver, it makes no logical sense. But to me, none of the comic feats make sense, so why should I cherry pick which ones I 'believe' and which ones I don't, particularly in this scenario where we are tossing out their greatest lifting feats??

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol this is the way I see it - feel free to disagree.

I'm an engineer by training. So when I read about the Speed Force, or X-genes, or some celestial force that has existed before the beginning of time, I suspend my belief.

When I read that Superman has lifted half of infinity, yes, its stupid as hell. I suspend my belief, just like I don't start spouting off equations proving how Quicksilver cannot run at XYZ speeds or that a healing factor is stupid. Its a story.

So when Superman, on panel, is shown to be lifting infinity (which is a mathematical concept) - well, sure, its stupid. But its a lifting feat. And quantifiable.

My point is that arguing against Superman lifting that book is like arguing against any of the Hulk's lifting feats. To some of you, like carver, it makes no logical sense. But to me, none of the comic feats make sense, so why should I cherry pick which ones I 'believe' and which ones I don't, particularly in this scenario where we are tossing out their greatest lifting feats??

Nicely said.

Nah, f*ck dat.

The book was a magical construct.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol this is the way I see it - feel free to disagree.

I'm an engineer by training. So when I read about the Speed Force, or X-genes, or some celestial force that has existed before the beginning of time, I suspend my belief.

When I read that Superman has lifted half of infinity, yes, its stupid as hell. I suspend my belief, just like I don't start spouting off equations proving how Quicksilver cannot run at XYZ speeds or that a healing factor is stupid. Its a story.

So when Superman, on panel, is shown to be lifting infinity (which is a mathematical concept) - well, sure, its stupid. But its a lifting feat. And quantifiable.

My point is that arguing against Superman lifting that book is like arguing against any of the Hulk's lifting feats. To some of you, like carver, it makes no logical sense. But to me, none of the comic feats make sense, so why should I cherry pick which ones I 'believe' and which ones I don't, particularly in this scenario where we are tossing out their greatest lifting feats??

Originally posted by Galan007
😂

BA is a whiny hack, tbh.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol this is the way I see it - feel free to disagree.

I'm an engineer by training. So when I read about the Speed Force, or X-genes, or some celestial force that has existed before the beginning of time, I suspend my belief.

When I read that Superman has lifted half of infinity, yes, its stupid as hell. I suspend my belief, just like I don't start spouting off equations proving how Quicksilver cannot run at XYZ speeds or that a healing factor is stupid. Its a story.

So when Superman, on panel, is shown to be lifting infinity (which is a mathematical concept) - well, sure, its stupid. But its a lifting feat. And quantifiable.

My point is that arguing against Superman lifting that book is like arguing against any of the Hulk's lifting feats. To some of you, like carver, it makes no logical sense. But to me, none of the comic feats make sense, so why should I cherry pick which ones I 'believe' and which ones I don't, particularly in this scenario where we are tossing out their greatest lifting feats??

So are you going to post those lifting fts or what?

Originally posted by carver9
So are you going to post those lifting fts or what?

I was going to, Galan beat me to it - he was much faster than me. So rather than clog the thread with pictures that Galan had already posted, I thought I'd just clog it with words.

Edit: Oh wait, it shows Ultraman lifting it, not Superman/Marvel. Do you really want me to post it, seeing as you (and everyone else) already knows of the feat I am thinking of posting, which is the CapMarvel/Superman lifting the book of infinite pages?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I was going to, Galan beat me to it - he was much faster than me. So rather than clog the thread with pictures that Galan had already posted, I thought I'd just clog it with words.

That wasn't Superman, that's was Ultraman that Galan posted. So what solo lifting fts does Superman have?

Originally posted by carver9
That wasn't Superman, that's was Ultraman that Galan posted. So what solo lifting fts does Superman have?

Damn, you type faster than I can edit lol - I already realised my mistake!

That's the beauty of infinity - half of the infinite book is still infinity hehe. And I never asked for SOLO feats, if you re-read my post carefully.

All I asked for was what was the heaviest Hulk had lifted - so no need to start low, and work your way up - just go for the big bang, the deal breaker, the X-factor money shot. If you had one (or 2) scans to show beyond all doubt just how strong the Hulk is, and knock us nonbelievers off our feet, which would it be?