Hulk vs Thanos-The strongest there is

Originally posted by carver9
Quan doesnt understand logic. If someone runs out of energy/power, no matter what happens, that power should be gone if the character actually ran out of energy. This is what he doesn't understand. Hulk was still just as powerful, he just powered down while fighting Sentry and this was proven when he turned his eyes green at the end of the battle.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Interesting... So, Captain Marvel, Thor, Herc are stronger than Despero, DD, Thanos and Kurse?

Let me stop you as you continually and desperately tread water: stop moving the goalposts. You asked me which carries more weight. You didn't ask me if those two things were the only things that carried weight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I figured you would leave after I posed the second part to my question once you answered the first post. No surprise there being that your theory doesn't match up with the examples I listed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
V&V Despero manhandled Captain Marvel. Kurse manhandled Thor and was stated outright to be twice or four times as strong as he is. Doomsday has manhandled teams of high heralds but is still about on par with Superman and thus, on par with Captain Marvel. Thanos can manhandle high heralds also and you can extrapolate from there.

Let me stop you as you continually and desperately tread water: stop moving the goalposts. You asked me which carries more weight. You didn't ask me if those two things were the only things that carried weight. You're trolling is transparent. So is your butthurt over Hulk being physically more monstrous than Thanos. Stop being a snivelling little douche and make a better argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's seems you are attempting to personally attack me in an attempt to derail the debate because you've lost.

1)He did run out of energy. He turned into his human body. LOL.

2)He got angry again. Anger fuels his power. You do read the Hulk, right ? He got so angry he hit a power level he'd never seen before.

Honestly, did you read the comic ?

IF he ran out of energy, then the green glowing eyes would constitute what?

Anger doesn't literally "fuel" his powers, it is merely one of several triggers, the psychology has been elaborated on in various comics, but basically it just makes him less inclined to apply the breaks to Hulk.

Becoming WBH negates any point in arguing that he "ran out of energy". It's a fact that he can become WBH instantly, so the power is always on tap. All it requires of him, is the desire to access it. And that usually comes from being in a fight.

Originally posted by janus77
You don't really make sense there, not at all.

IF he ran out of energy, then the green glowing eyes would constitute what?

Anger doesn't literally "fuel" his powers, it is merely one of several triggers, the psychology has been elaborated on in various comics, but basically it just makes him less inclined to apply the breaks to Hulk.

Becoming WBH negates any point in arguing that he "ran out of energy". It's a fact that he can become WBH instantly, so the power is always on tap. All it requires of him, is the desire to access it. And that usually comes from being in a fight.

He regained energy when he got angry again.

Anger does fuel his powers. I knew you didn't read the Hulk. I never said he couldn't do it I said before those events took place he didn't hold back against the Sentry. That was my point then you interjected and I destroyed you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I make perfect sense you just don't comprehend much.

He regained energy when he got angry again.

Anger does fuel his powers. I knew you didn't read the Hulk. I never said he couldn't do it I said before those events took place he didn't hold back against the Sentry. That was my point then you interjected and I destroyed you.

Hulk held back, as he has always done, as he always does.

Sentry ran out of juice, Hulk powered down, then tapped Bob goodnight and then got pissed off and booted up into WBH mode.

And again, read what I wrote, anger doesn't actually fuel him, it is one of many psychological triggers for easing off on the brakes.

You've got the mechanism ass-backwards, probably not the only thing you get wrong.

Also, if "running out of energy" is to have any meaning (besides mere pedantry points), then it should be difficult for Hulk to return to high levels of power afterwards.

Otherwise, you could say he runs out of power and then is back to "full power" in the very next instant and the opponent gains nothing from it.

Originally posted by janus77
I ignored your "point" as it was blatantly nonsensical 🙂.

Hulk held back, as he has always done, as he always does.

Sentry ran out of juice, Hulk powered down, then tapped Bob goodnight and then got pissed off and booted up into WBH mode.

And again, read what I wrote, anger doesn't actually fuel him, it is one of many psychological triggers for easing off on the brakes.

You've got the mechanism ass-backwards, probably not the only thing you get wrong.

Also, if "running out of energy" is to have any meaning (besides mere pedantry points), then it should be difficult for Hulk to return to high levels of power afterwards.

Otherwise, you could say he runs out of power and then is back to "full power" in the very next instant and the opponent gains nothing from it.

Hulk didn't hold back he burned himself out. Then he got more powerful than ever due to anger. Even as WB Hulk he didn't even kill Miek. 😂

So a WW Hulk can run out of power against Sentry yet even as WB didn't have the power to kill Miek.

Thanos easily overpowers him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it wasn't.

Hulk didn't hold back he burned himself out. Then he got more powerful than ever due to anger. Even as WB Hulk he didn't even kill Miek. 😂

So a WW Hulk can run out of power against Sentry yet even as WB didn't have the power to kill Miek.

Thanos easily overpowers him.

Anyway, the actual comics depict a Hulk holding back against an all out Sentry. They depict a Hulk fighting against the urge to let loose, after going WBH (thus Miek not being killed) and they depict a Hulk with far more impressive feats of strength than Thanos.

All that is sufficient to come to a reasonable conclusion that WW/WB Hulk >>>> Thanos

Originally posted by janus77
I see you're determined to remain forever trapped in Quanchiverse...

Anyway, the actual comics depict a Hulk holding back against an all out Sentry. They depict a Hulk fighting against the urge to let loose, after going WBH (thus Miek not being killed) and they depict a Hulk with far more impressive feats of strength than Thanos.

All that is sufficient to come to a reasonable conclusion that WW/WB Hulk >>>> Thanos

Thanos tosses around beings like Mar-vell who are above top tier while Hulk needs outside help to get him mad and back in the game. Even then Miek survived. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos tosses around beings like Mar-vell who are above top tier while Hulk needs outside help to get him mad and back in the game. Even then Miek survived. 🙂

Sadly for you, Hulk collapses dimensions when he gets serious, Thanos isn't surviving that fight ❌

Originally posted by janus77
zero proof conjecture... make anyone trans so long as Thanos has one over them? 😉 smart.

Sadly for you, Hulk collapses dimensions when he gets serious, Thanos isn't surviving that fight ❌

Hulk might with aid collapse a dimension but Thanos collapses foes. Hulk couldn't even collapse Miek. Thanos, easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Saying a character held back and then burned out of power makes no sense. I agree and am glad you conceded.

Hulk never ran out of energy and, irrespective of this fact, he was holding back whilst beating Sentry.

Hulk didn't even kill Strange, Reed, IronMan or Xavier, why would he kill someone he calls a friend and whom he knows suffers from mental illness? He wouldn't, as such he held back and modulated his power to his opponent's durability.

Anyway, even though Thanos is obviously inferior to Hulk here, I accept that you're irrationality will prevail over any and all attempts you might make to be objective.

So, back to the Quanchiverse with you 🙂

Originally posted by janus77
You really can't understand logic can you?
Even the false dichotomy you present isn't actually mutually exclusive, if you think about it but, I guess that's where you fall down.

Hulk never ran out of energy and, irrespective of this fact, he was holding back whilst beating Sentry.

Hulk didn't even kill Strange, Reed, IronMan or Xavier, why would he kill someone he calls a friend and whom he knows suffers from mental illness? He wouldn't, as such he held back and modulated his power to his opponent's durability.

Anyway, even though Thanos is obviously inferior to Hulk here, I accept that you're irrationality will prevail over any and all attempts you might make to be objective.

So, back to the Quanchiverse with you 🙂

WW Hulk didn't hold back otherwise he wouldn't revert to human form. Yes, Hulk didn't kill them but that doesn't mean anything with regards to holding back either. Zom/Strange also stopped attacking. 🙂

You like most Hulk fans make claims Thanos loses without any evidence. I use evidence to make my case. You don't. Thanos wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In ig he was amped so not a good example. He also depowered himself to give them a chance so it's a little murky since he could have destroyed them without a battle.

In TI he also spared Drax originally but since he wouldn't stop he killed him. He also didn't kill Lord Mar-vell. There are plenty of examples of him not trying to kill although you'd lead me to believe otherwise.

I read the book that's why I won't fall for your propaganda. Hulk needed outside events to hit WB levels. He wasn't out to kill prior to but hit the Sentry as hard as he could and ended up burning out. Breaking a world is Hulk's highest mark sad to say Thanos did so in his first appearance. LOL.

That was an energy attack not a straight punch. Thanos decked Tyrant to the ground. Zeus defeated the Hulk easily. Odin wasn't able to put down Thanos and resorted to pulling out a weapon. Hulk didn't laugh off any attacks like Thanos did with Odin. Hulk should stick to fighting top tiers.

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Whereas Hulk sent Zeus flying. Thanos didn't laugh off anything and his physical attacks even amped by energy were totally ineffective against Odin. It's Thanos' toughness which allows him to hang with the big boys but his offensive power is not on their level at all.

That's greater than any Hulk feat to this date. Show me him beating any above top tier character. If you can't then you lose and Thanos wins.

Hulk's physical potential is far greater than that of Thanos' and tbh it's not really debatable at this point.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He "depowered" himself by using the power gem and he still killed multiple heroes. He has other occasions of him trying to kill Drax, when he was mindless he tried to kill the GotG. When Hulk goes for the kill he takes out foes beyond top tier.

So why were multiple references made to him being the World Breaker long before Mieks revelation? Why did Hulk try to control his rage instead of embracing it like he did in HOTM? Hulk said himself he held back against Sentry and he didn't "burn" out he still had power left in him or did you miss his eyes glowing green after the fight. Hulk breaks worlds and puts them back together too with pure brute strength. Good luck proving Thanos could do this 🙂[/B]

Wow. You can clearly see him swing with an energy amped strike which had no effect to which he received a pimpslap.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512588

Whereas Hulk sent Zeus flying. Thanos didn't laugh off anything and his physical attacks even amped by energy were totally ineffective against Odin. It's Thanos' toughness which allows him to hang with the big boys but his offensive power is not on their level at all.[/B]

So beating down someone who has the physical stats of Captain Mar-vell is Thanos' greatest strength feat? You're going to need more than that son. Hulk has defeated Onslaught, Galaxy Master, Flame of Life, High Evolutionary, Nightmare (in his own realm), Mephisto, Super Adaptoid, The Gardner, overpowering the Stranger, beating Hyperion in 2 punches etc etc.

Hulk's physical potential is far greater than that of Thanos' and tbh it's not really debatable at this point. [/B]

Hulk didn't defeat Onslaught. That's a lie. Hulk was ko'd though. Hulk also needed his mind shut down to rage out like that. 🙂

Thanos' physical strength is far higher and Hulk hasn't even beat on the Surfer nor has he stomped Thor and against the Sentry he burned out. Not impressed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
V&V Despero manhandled Captain Marvel. Kurse manhandled Thor and was stated outright to be twice or four times as strong as he is. Doomsday has manhandled teams of high heralds but is still about on par with Superman and thus, on par with Captain Marvel. Thanos can manhandle high heralds also and you can extrapolate from there.

Let me stop you as you continually and desperately tread water: stop moving the goalposts. You asked me which carries more weight. You didn't ask me if those two things were the only things that carried weight. You're trolling is transparent. So is your butthurt over Hulk being physically more monstrous than Thanos. Stop being a snivelling little douche and make a better argument.

Don't blame me for your piss poor explanation that I cited examples that proved it was false. Just because you didn't answer correctly, doesn't mean I somehow changed any goal posts. Kurse or Thor haven't fought in their current versions. All we have is there old versions fighting (just like Thanos and Hulk). All we have is their old fight and statements... JUST LIKE Hulk and Thanos. You know, where Marvel wanted to make the point abundantly clear... You call yourselves strong, I am STRENGTH PERSONIFIED... Superman has many more impressive feats of strength since his fight with Doomsday... So why then, can you still say Doomsday is stronger.. when your claim was they have to be current versions? Awww because you were caught, and caught very easily I might add. The fact is, bad guys don't need strength feats like Hulk, Superman and Thor to prove they are stronger. Direct confrontations prove such. Don't be made I ask you a question to show your bias and idiocy, you feel for it, and they proceeded to get caught. It's ok ODG it's a new year buddy.

Can I see any on panel narration that says Hulk POWERED DOWN

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Can I see any on panel narration that says Hulk POWERED DOWN

By reading comics. thanduros

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Don't blame me for your piss poor explanation that I cited examples that proved it was false.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Just because you didn't answer correctly, doesn't mean I somehow changed any goal posts. Kurse or Thor haven't fought in their current versions. All we have is there old versions fighting (just like Thanos and Hulk).

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
All we have is their old fight and statements... JUST LIKE Hulk and Thanos. You know, where Marvel wanted to make the point abundantly clear... You call yourselves strong, I am STRENGTH PERSONIFIED... Superman has many more impressive feats of strength since his fight with Doomsday... So why then, can you still say Doomsday is stronger.. when your claim was they have to be current versions? Awww because you were caught, and caught very easily I might add. The fact is, bad guys don't need strength feats like Hulk, Superman and Thor to prove they are stronger. Direct confrontations prove such. Don't be made I ask you a question to show your bias and idiocy, you feel for it, and they proceeded to get caught. It's ok ODG it's a new year buddy.

Sorry you can't get with the program because you're intentionally being a troll. But trying to hold how a weaker, different version of the Hulk performed against Thanos is idiotic on all levels. Let me repeat that: if you think a weaker, different version of Hulk's performance is more probative than the current Hulk's feats, you're a phucking idiot.

Get over the fact that Worldbreaker Hulk is physically more monstrous than Thanos. Make a better argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he also toyed with the heroes and was laughing and not taking them all to seriously. Yes, I never said there weren't occasions where he wasn't trying to kill but it isn't even 80 percent of the time despite you acting like he always goes for the kill. You are also attempting to use one Hulk showing and forget 99 percent of his other showing as your entire argument.

Hulk didn't revert back to a human on purpose there he expended too much energy.

Hulk tried to control the rage after it came out through his pores upon the revelation but this occurred prior to that.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So why were multiple references made to him being the World Breaker long before Mieks revelation? Why did Hulk try to control his rage instead of embracing it like he did in HOTM?

Banner can leap from human to WB levels in a moment if he chooses to. The proof is all there.

Methinks you have a hard time understanding context, unless your just being ignorant. Then again it doesn't surprise me when you believe Thanos can beat Galactus, Tyrant, Odin and Zeus. It would take someone almost completely ignoring what happens on panel to reach these conclusions... 🙄

Thanos laughed off his first attack. He stood there and didn't budge. Zeus' first attack ko'd the Hulk.

Lord Mar-vell is a different character than Captain Mar-vell. You're desperate.

Hulk didn't defeat Onslaught. That's a lie. Hulk was ko'd though. Hulk also needed his mind shut down to rage out like that. 🙂

Thanos' physical strength is far higher and Hulk hasn't even beat on the Surfer nor has he stomped Thor and against the Sentry he burned out. Not impressed.