Hulk vs Thanos-The strongest there is

Stoic... It was ON PANEL NARRATION BACKED UP BY ON PANEL ACTION. It doesn't get anymore clear than that. Marvel made Thanos, overpower Hulk and The Thing (two heroes who routinely use their strength to save the day, and rarely does it fail) Yet Marvel, had Thanos Mock their strength and overpower them both at the same time. I find it amusing that you're reaching to h1a8 levels, who said, all thanos did was overpower their neck muscles lmao. No, Marvel had Thanos mock their strength and make it clear he was stronger than them both. BTW, funny how you left out the context of Quasar putting a pillow in between them so they WEREN'T KO'd. Forget that little fact buddy? Point is, just like I've always stated, that was a weaker version of Hulk.. but it was also a weaker version of Thanos. Thanos proved to be a lot stronger than that hulk with help, so any increase in Hulk's power needs to overcome the gap that already clearly exists. I'm saying it's not certain he has, and the only test of strength they ever had, thanos owed him with ease.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Stoic... It was ON PANEL NARRATION BACKED UP BY ON PANEL ACTION. It doesn't get anymore clear than that. Marvel made Thanos, overpower Hulk and The Thing (two heroes who routinely use their strength to save the day, and rarely does it fail) Yet Marvel, had Thanos Mock their strength and overpower them both at the same time. I find it amusing that you're reaching to h1a8 levels, who said, all thanos did was overpower their neck muscles lmao. No, Marvel had Thanos mock their strength and make it clear he was stronger than them both. BTW, funny how you left out the context of Quasar putting a pillow in between them so they WEREN'T KO'd. Forget that little fact buddy? Point is, just like I've always stated, that was a weaker version of Hulk.. but it was also a weaker version of Thanos. Thanos proved to be a lot stronger than that hulk with help, so any increase in Hulk's power needs to overcome the gap that already clearly exists. I'm saying it's not certain he has, and the only test of strength they ever had, thanos owed him with ease.

Marvel had the Hulk jump on Thanos and the only reason that Thanos was able to make the Hulk get off of him was by turning him into the size of a mouse. Thanos did not KO them, so why do you keep bringing that up?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually, Superman and Marvel BOTH have better feats since V&V Despero tooled them. So, I ask again... How can Despero being stronger, when they currently haven't fought, and now, Superman and Marvel both have better feats since then. Superman did NOTHING to HP Doomsday that would lead me to believe he was as strong as Doomsday. Since then, Superman has even better feats. SO again, How can you claim Doomsday is stronger?

You're telling me that when V&V Despero tools Superman and Captain Marvel simultaneously, I have to ignore that in favor of Superman and Captain Marvel's stand-alone feats of strength? How exactly does that square with you and your constant appeals that we should pay attention to Thanos tooling Professor Hulk and Thing? Because, y'know,even Professor Hulk has better stand-alone feats of strength over Thanos, moron.

Do you have any idea how completely backwards you've spun yourself about trying to insist that there is some gap in my rationale? And Superman matched H/P Doomsday in Our Worlds at War, I didn't say that H/P Doomsday is stronger than Superman. Get your head out of your keester and learn to read English instead of lying and misinterpreting what I clearly write so you can pretend you have a point.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Just because you were exposed, don't let your butt hurt continue.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The question wasn't loaded at all, in fact, it illustrated the exact point I was trying to make.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Now, I'm not saying Hulk isn't stronger than he was back then. However, we must factor a few things into and go a little further. First, even if Hulk is stronger now, Thanos is also more powerful. Second, Thanos was already significantly stronger than hulk being that he treated him like a weak feeb. So, even if Hulk is stronger, he would still have to make up a strength gap that clearly existed. Third, Hulk had help in the form of another 85 tonner known for his strength. That adds to the degree Thanos was already stronger than Hulk. As stated, based on lifting feats bad guys don't have, Hulk is stronger. Based on the ONLY time they met, Thanos treated a weaker Hulk like a weak feeb.

Make a better argument or get lost. Old encounters with a weaker version of a character are irrelevant to current versions. You can't get that? You're trolling. That's all there is to it. You keep mentioning it, you're trolling. And behind all the insults and butt-hurt, that doesn't change. It's the same thing as constantly parading about Byrne Superman when we're talking about current Superman. STOP TROLLING. This is about CURRENT HULK, NOT PROFESSOR HULK.

You mention Professor Hulk again, you're reported.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I think we can say that was a clear win for Hulk. And an embarrassing loss for the Mighty Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
So he should have stayed there and killed Thor like Thanos tends to do in all of his fights.

Thanos didn't fight Champion like a man...he hid the entire time.

Thanos would get that a** tapped if he fought someone that is stronger than.him and that's exactly what the Hulk is.

Carver, you're a liar.

Real big so even you can't deny seeing it.

Lying won't save you from me. Look at Thanos just deck the shit out of champion. Thanos is simply the best.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lying won't save you from me. Look at Thanos just deck the shit out of champion.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Did Champion even feel that punch ? It's debatable.

Also Champion being driven back kinda leads me to believe he felt it. maybe in your world if someone punches you back you don't feel it. I live in the real world.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he doesn't go for the kill most of the time and I've seen Hulk try to kill Thor yet unable to best him so it goes both ways. Even at Hulk's best showing which is all you argue for forgetting 99 percent of his other showings he still hasn't done anything remotely near Thanos' best.

When has Hulk tried to kill Thor? IH #440? He saved Thor from the nuke at the end of the fight he wasn't truly bloodlusted.

You just agree he reverted back due to tapping out his power. Just because you pretend it's something it isn't doesn't take away from the fact Banner doesn't revert back to human form most of the time and here it was painfully obvious he burned out.

That isn't a dodge I always stated this was prior to his anger revelation at the end of WW Hulk. You just don't comprehend what I am saying and are upset because you jumped the gun and were incorrect.

Yes, Hulk learned and channeled this rage after he burned himself out which makes my statement still hold true at the time.

Yes,I never disputed this but it's hardly in character only if the situation is perfect will he do so. You have effectively argued he won't ever do this. I agree he wouldn't do so in character and agree but if he did Thanos is still stronger and more durable so it wouldn't matter.

This is off topic.

I agree Thanos is simply beyond their level he's an avatar of death who's currently unkillable.

You believe Thanos is beyond Galactus despite Thanos himself admitting he was inferior to him and was displayed as such? I'm scratching my head to try and understand your retarded logic.

Mar-vell is a lot more powerful and changed drastically since their mirrored events until the point he survived death. Acting as if they are the same is ignorant and with a blind eye to the evidence. You made the claim they are peers so the burden is on you not me. 🙂

I argue based on what I see you don't.

Onslaught wasn't near skyfather level nor was he defeated. You lie. It's sad. Hulk needed aid to shut his mind down to boot. 🙂 Hulk was ko'd and Onslaught wanted freed anyway. Quit leaving out the context, sport.

Hulk doesn't fight normally with this mindset so I agree he won't do so here either but has wanted to kill Thor. IH 440. You seem quite ignorant on the Hulk.

Thanos, 10/10. Stronger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's irrelevant. Carver claimed he hid behind shields the entire time my scan proved he's either ignorant or a liar. When responding please be aware of what's actually going on before putting your two cents in. K.

Also Champion being driven back kinda leads me to believe he felt it. maybe in your world if someone punches you back you don't feel it. I live in the real world.

Or he was simply able to move the opponent due to the fact that he can lift far more than the couple tons that the Champion weighs. This would make slapping him away fairly simple, but I did not see how that hurt the Champion. Thanos as Carver said was behind shields that took the brunt of his atrtacks, because Thanos obviously didn't want to be hit by that level of punch. HOTM Hulk would hit with that type of force, and some.

Originally posted by Stoic
Or he was simply able to move the opponent due to the fact that he can lift far more than the couple tons that the Champion weighs. This would make slapping him away fairly simple, but I did not see how that hurt the Champion. Thanos as Carver said was behind shields that took the brunt of his atrtacks, because Thanos obviously didn't want to be hit by that level of punch. HOTM Hulk would hit with that type of force, and some.

Thanos has stood still by Odin's attack which oneshotted the Surfer. Odin can destroy galaxies so it doesn't work that way. If Glads hit someone with planet shattering power they'd fly off the planet everytime. You never make any sense. Ever.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
I'm starting to see why people on this forum dislike Thanos because of you.

When has Hulk tried to kill Thor? IH #440? He saved Thor from the nuke at the end of the fight he wasn't truly bloodlusted.

In ih he stated I will kill you. Thor lost himself to bloodlust as well. They fought for about an hour and when the nuke was about to hit Hulk snapped out of it and acted to save him. Hulk was still trying to kill him prior to in the bloodlust as was Thor.

How could one with no known limit to his power "tap out" when he surpassed that level moments later? How did Banner have eyes gleaming with energy if he "burnt out" his power? Your nonsensical claim contradicts what happened on panel.[/B]

Great but as already shown Banner/Hulk can hit WB levels at anytime.

Hulk learned to channel his rage before WWH even happened so no it doesn't. Read the comics you are debating on. [/B]

Yes, he did but can't just create rage he needed an event of this magnitude to achieve this power level.

Your in the wrong thread.[/B]

You believe Thanos is beyond Galactus despite Thanos himself admitting he was inferior to him and was displayed as such? I'm scratching my head to try and understand your retarded logic.

You initially made the claim Lord Mar-vell was far beyond top tier the onus is on you to prove it. Especially since what he did during TI was nothing any other top tier worth their salt hasn't done in their time, even Rulk had a more impressive introduction as the big bad shiny new villain.[/B]

Mar-vell casually dismissed two top tiers in Nova and the Surfer. He oneshotted the Magus to death. Done.

😂 I suspect this is the now famous Quan-style of debating I have heard so much about. Post reeks of desperation.[/B]

You don't even know what your debating anymore. This isn't a fight read the stips. Time to put up or shut up Quanchi, post a strength feat from Thanos that outweights anything Hulk has ever done or concede.
You have yet to show me anything that surpasses HOTM or destroying Onslaught while lying down or tearing down Nightmare and his dimension or even beating Hyperion in two punches. [/B]

That outweighs space cheese and collateral damage any day of the week.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos baited him, Thanos attacked him, mocked him, and avoided his attacks. When he got him to subconsciously tap into the power gem to destroy the planet so he'd hand over his power gem.

Thanos has stood still by Odin's attack which oneshotted the Surfer. Odin can destroy galaxies so it doesn't work that way. If Glads hit someone with planet shattering power they'd fly off the planet everytime. You never make any sense. Ever.

Don't tell me what Thanos did, or how much smarter he is than the Champion, I read the book. The simple fact is that Thanos stood behind shields instead of taking those massive hits. That is all that we need to know. You just made a huge point but it didn't quite work out in your favor. Odin wasn't going all out on Thanos, with universal force, and look at the state that Odin left him in. Odin was unmarred, while Thanos looked like Wily Coyote after smoking a stick of dynamite.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos baited him, Thanos attacked him, mocked him, and avoided his attacks.

Thanos: behold my power for I mock you, I attack you and I even avoid your attacks.

Wow, some feats... Spider-Man does those kinds of things 10 times a day. Without shields.

Originally posted by Stoic
Don't tell me what Thanos did, or how much smarter he is than the Champion, I read the book. The simple fact is that Thanos stood behind shields instead of taking those massive hits. That is all that we need to know. You just made a huge point but it didn't quite work out in your favor. Odin wasn't going all out on Thanos, with universal force, and look at the state that Odin left him in. Odin was unmarred, while Thanos looked like Wily Coyote after smoking a stick of dynamite.

And lol at the same old same old use of Odin didnt use universe lvl powerfacepalm the same Odin one shotted one of Marvels best heralds with a casual energy blast.

Originally posted by Stoic
Don't tell me what Thanos did, or how much smarter he is than the Champion, I read the book. The simple fact is that Thanos stood behind shields instead of taking those massive hits. That is all that we need to know. You just made a huge point but it didn't quite work out in your favor. Odin wasn't going all out on Thanos, with universal force, and look at the state that Odin left him in. Odin was unmarred, while Thanos looked like Wily Coyote after smoking a stick of dynamite.

Prove Odin wasn't going all out. Odin wanted him dead. Who holds back when they respect their opponent, see his son being held captive, and when Thanos just invaded asgard in Odin's mind.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Those are feats these days ?

Thanos: behold my power for I mock you, I attack you and I even avoid your attacks.

Wow, some feats... Spider-Man does those kinds of things 10 times a day. Without shields.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Yet Thanos smiles and bleeds and has his shields busted and starts getting overwhelmed so resorts to a plot device at PG Thors best shots.

Originally posted by Nihilist
And lol at the same old same old use of Odin didnt use universe lvl powerfacepalm the same Odin one shotted one of Marvels best heralds with a casual energy blast.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fixed. That doesn't really change that Odin wasn't going all out.

You need to prove he held back if that's your claim.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he was baiting him into drawing the necessary power to shred the planet. he fought with his head. Champion had the power gem you keep forgetting that fact and guess what he handed it over to Thanos. I wouldn't have to tell you things if you'd be more objective.

Prove Odin wasn't going all out. Odin wanted him dead. Who holds back when they respect their opponent, see his son being held captive, and when Thanos just invaded asgard in Odin's mind.

Obviously Odin wasn't going all out because if he was and your words prove this, he would have flattened a universe. Thanos was incapable of taking much more than the destruction of Asgard. However Asgard wasn't destroyed, and just look at the way Thanos looked after the small amount of abuse doled out to him.

You see Thanos in not un-debatable as you often have said, he is simply un-debatable with you.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Fixed. That doesn't really change that Odin wasn't going all out.

It sure doesn't

Didnt Odin offer Thanos to yield? He could've kept blasting while Thanos was on his knees. imo that's a sign he was holding back at least a little.