Hulk vs Thanos-The strongest there is

Originally posted by Nihilist
If its based on lifting feats, The Hulk.

Based physially battle opponents, Thanos wins..beating Surfer to death is above anything Hulk has done and before anyone starts with 2 Surfer isnt strong" Thanos didnt beat through his strength lvl he beat through his awesome durability.

Hulk has never beaten someone so easily with the durability that Surfer has.

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Hulk is capeable of surpassing thanos is strength i suppose, but he dont manhandle top tiers as easily as thanos does. As far as lifting feast goes thanos has none and hulk wins there.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He toyed with some of them and others he outright tried to kill, the point is Thanos goes for the kill most of the time while Hulk does just enough to beat his opponent without killing them. In fact in most cases he goes out of his way not to kill, sometimes saving lives mid-fight. HOTM is one of the few occasions Hulk was able to stop holding back his power and he was destroying the Dark Dimension. Accomplishing feats that not even a mid-level skyfather could along the way. Thanos can't compare with Hulk's strength potential.

It was due to his healing factor being taxed to the point he couldn't heal fast enough and eventually reverted back to human. Nothing indicated he ran out of power in fact evidence pointed to the contrary.[/B]

^Nice dodge:

Before Hulk landed on Earth in WWH, he harnessed his anger and learnt to control it without going out of his mind with rage. Compare this with HOTM in which Banner totally gave in to the rage rather than fight it, this spawned the line: "I'm sorry I didn't do this sooner".

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Yes, Hulk learned and channeled this rage after he burned himself out which makes my statement still hold true at the time.

Banner can leap from human to WB levels in a moment if he chooses to. The proof is all there.

Methinks you have a hard time understanding context, unless your just being ignorant. Then again it doesn't surprise me when you believe Thanos can beat Galactus, Tyrant, Odin and Zeus. It would take someone almost completely ignoring what happens on panel to reach these conclusions... 🙄

Thanos is not on the level of Zeus or Odin, bringing up either of them in a strength debate only hurts your case. Thanos' strength was completely ineffective against Odin, while Hulk hurt Zeus. [/B]

This is off topic.

I agree Thanos is simply beyond their level he's an avatar of death who's currently unkillable.

Lol the irony. You have nothing that suggests Thanos is stronger than Hulk but rather than concede you resort to using durability feats. "Lord" Mar-vell is the counterpart of 616 Mar-vell. If you think LM was any stronger or even more durable than CM let alone being "far above" top tier feel free to prove it 🙂[/B]

I argue based on what I see you don't.

He destroyed the physical body of a skyfather level being that none of Earth's heroes or villains could scratch at full power and he did so while laying on his back. The amount of power in that punch would've needed to be astronomical. Jean shut off Banners mind because he has always subconsciously held back the Hulks power (see a recurring theme here?).

Planet Hulk and Let The Battle Begin say otherwise 😉 Hulk has never fought Thor or Surfer with the mentality of killing them unlike Thanos, you already know Surfer and Thor would get wrecked if they ever fought WBH in a fist fight. [/B]

Hulk doesn't fight normally with this mindset so I agree he won't do so here either but has wanted to kill Thor. IH 440. You seem quite ignorant on the Hulk.

Thanos, 10/10. Stronger.

[QUOTE=13683639]Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he doesn't go for the kill most of the time and I've seen Hulk try to kill Thor yet unable to best him so it goes both ways. Even at Hulk's best showing which is all you argue for forgetting 99 percent of his other showings he still hasn't done anything remotely near Thanos' best.

You just agree he reverted back due to tapping out his power. Just because you pretend it's something it isn't doesn't take away from the fact Banner doesn't revert back to human form most of the time and here it was painfully obvious he burned out.

That isn't a dodge I always stated this was prior to his anger revelation at the end of WW Hulk. You just don't comprehend what I am saying and are upset because you jumped the gun and were incorrect.

Yes, Hulk learned and channeled this rage after he burned himself out which makes my statement still hold true at the time.
Yes,I never disputed this but it's hardly in character only if the situation is perfect will he do so. You have effectively argued he won't ever do this. I agree he wouldn't do so in character and agree but if he did Thanos is still stronger and more durable so it wouldn't matter.

This is off topic.

I agree Thanos is simply beyond their level he's an avatar of death who's currently unkillable.

Mar-vell is a lot more powerful and changed drastically since their mirrored events until the point he survived death. Acting as if they are the same is ignorant and with a blind eye to the evidence. You made the claim they are peers so the burden is on you not me. 🙂

I argue based on what I see you don't.

Onslaught wasn't near skyfather level nor was he defeated. You lie. It's sad. Hulk needed aid to shut his mind down to boot. 🙂 Hulk was ko'd and Onslaught wanted freed anyway. Quit leaving out the context, sport.

Hulk doesn't fight normally with this mindset so I agree he won't do so here either but has wanted to kill Thor. IH 440. You seem quite ignorant on the Hulk.

Thanos, 10/10. Stronger.

Wrong thread

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
[QUOTE=13683639]Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]No, he doesn't go for the kill most of the time and I've seen Hulk try to kill Thor yet unable to best him so it goes both ways. Even at Hulk's best showing which is all you argue for forgetting 99 percent of his other showings he still hasn't done anything remotely near Thanos' best.

You just agree he reverted back due to tapping out his power. Just because you pretend it's something it isn't doesn't take away from the fact Banner doesn't revert back to human form most of the time and here it was painfully obvious he burned out.

That isn't a dodge I always stated this was prior to his anger revelation at the end of WW Hulk. You just don't comprehend what I am saying and are upset because you jumped the gun and were incorrect.

Yes, Hulk learned and channeled this rage after he burned himself out which makes my statement still hold true at the time.
Yes,I never disputed this but it's hardly in character only if the situation is perfect will he do so. You have effectively argued he won't ever do this. I agree he wouldn't do so in character and agree but if he did Thanos is still stronger and more durable so it wouldn't matter.

This is off topic.

I agree Thanos is simply beyond their level he's an avatar of death who's currently unkillable.

Mar-vell is a lot more powerful and changed drastically since their mirrored events until the point he survived death. Acting as if they are the same is ignorant and with a blind eye to the evidence. You made the claim they are peers so the burden is on you not me. 🙂

I argue based on what I see you don't.

Onslaught wasn't near skyfather level nor was he defeated. You lie. It's sad. Hulk needed aid to shut his mind down to boot. 🙂 Hulk was ko'd and Onslaught wanted freed anyway. Quit leaving out the context, sport.

Hulk doesn't fight normally with this mindset so I agree he won't do so here either but has wanted to kill Thor. IH 440. You seem quite ignorant on the Hulk.

Thanos, 10/10. Stronger.

Wrong thread [/B]

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'll blame you for intentionally trying to ask a loaded question that was clearly exposed. Sorry I had to shatter your red herring garbage from the outset by qualifying my answer with "if it's current versions." Current Thor isn't anymore powerful than classic Thor (in fact, most peple think he's weaker than classic). So Kurse has fought Thor and Kurse was two-four times stronger. V&V Despero had fought Superman and Captain Marvel. You didn't even try to make a point about current Hulk. All of your examples blew up in your face. You made no point whatsoever. Older, weaker version of Hulk. Irrelevant to current version of Hulk. Superman has fought H/P Doomsday. At Superman's fiercest, he was just on par with H/P Doomsday in Our Worlds at War. You keep trying to find examples that blow up in your butthurt face. Direct confrontations of strength between current versions are the most probative. In their absence, pure feats control.

Sorry you can't get with the program because you're intentionally being a troll. But trying to hold how a weaker, different version of the Hulk performed against Thanos is idiotic on all levels. Let me repeat that: if you think a weaker, different version of Hulk's performance is more probative than the current Hulk's feats, you're a phucking idiot.

Get over the fact that Worldbreaker Hulk is physically more monstrous than Thanos. Make a better argument.

Actually, Superman and Marvel BOTH have better feats since V&V Despero tooled them. So, I ask again... How can Despero being stronger, when they currently haven't fought, and now, Superman and Marvel both have better feats since then. Superman did NOTHING to HP Doomsday that would lead me to believe he was as strong as Doomsday. Since then, Superman has even better feats. SO again, How can you claim Doomsday is stronger? Just because you were exposed, don't let your butt hurt continue. The question wasn't loaded at all, in fact, it illustrated the exact point I was trying to make. Now, I'm not saying Hulk isn't stronger than he was back then. However, we must factor a few things into and go a little further. First, even if Hulk is stronger now, Thanos is also more powerful. Second, Thanos was already significantly stronger than hulk being that he treated him like a weak feeb. So, even if Hulk is stronger, he would still have to make up a strength gap that clearly existed. Third, Hulk had help in the form of another 85 tonner known for his strength. That adds to the degree Thanos was already stronger than Hulk. As stated, based on lifting feats bad guys don't have, Hulk is stronger. Based on the ONLY time they met, Thanos treated a weaker Hulk like a weak feeb.

I keep wondering what makes people say that Thanos treated the Hulk like a weak feeb? All he did was knocked his head up against the Things, and said in boast, that he was strength personified. The only thing that Thanos did was exploit the Hulk, and the Thing's center of gravity. It would have been different if he knocked them out, but this did not happen. What I do find pretty impressive however is how the Hulk jumped on Thanos, and the only way that he got him off was by shrinking him down to the size of a mouse. Even at this size the Hulk nearly KO'd a full sized Abomination. Now that's strength personified.

Aside from those that wear Thanos-tinted glasses, everyone else is objective enough to accept that Marvel clearly place Hulk on a higher level, when it comes to strength/power, than Thanos.

I think it's best to leave the choirboys to their delusions, they go around and around in circles attempting to avoid the obvious truth. Makes you dizzy from all their circular logic.

When Thanos can bust dimensions under his own power, then maybe he might earn the right to be taken seriously in a debate about comparative physical power. Right now, it might as well be Rhino versus Hulk, for all the evidence and argument the Thanos side can muster.

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Originally posted by WangleR
Junior Anus 7-7 you sick ****!

Originally posted by Stoic
I keep wondering what makes people say that Thanos treated the Hulk like a weak feeb? All he did was knocked his head up against the Things, and said in boast, that he was strength personified. The only thing that Thanos did was exploit the Hulk, and the Thing's center of gravity. It would have been different if he knocked them out, but this did not happen. What I do find pretty impressive however is how the Hulk jumped on Thanos, and the only way that he got him off was by shrinking him down to the size of a mouse. Even at this size the Hulk nearly KO'd a full sized Abomination. Now that's strength personified.

Thanos toyed with the heroes in the ig. Wolverine stabbed through him and his bones were turned into rubber. He turned Thor to glass. The comic showed creative ways for Thanos to use his powers despite warlock and Thanos knowing he'd mow through the competition and the only chance they'd have was the Surfer.

You aren't objective.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually, Superman and Marvel BOTH have better feats since V&V Despero tooled them. So, I ask again... How can Despero being stronger, when they currently haven't fought, and now, Superman and Marvel both have better feats since then. Superman did NOTHING to HP Doomsday that would lead me to believe he was as strong as Doomsday. Since then, Superman has even better feats. SO again, How can you claim Doomsday is stronger? Just because you were exposed, don't let your butt hurt continue. The question wasn't loaded at all, in fact, it illustrated the exact point I was trying to make. Now, I'm not saying Hulk isn't stronger than he was back then. However, we must factor a few things into and go a little further. First, even if Hulk is stronger now, Thanos is also more powerful. Second, Thanos was already significantly stronger than hulk being that he treated him like a weak feeb. So, even if Hulk is stronger, he would still have to make up a strength gap that clearly existed. Third, Hulk had help in the form of another 85 tonner known for his strength. That adds to the degree Thanos was already stronger than Hulk. As stated, based on lifting feats bad guys don't have, Hulk is stronger. Based on the ONLY time they met, Thanos treated a weaker Hulk like a weak feeb.

The Hulk that you are using is one of the weakest Hulks that has ever existed. An unarmored Juggernaut overpowered him, grabbed his head, choked him and knocked Professor Hulk out with a couple of well placed blows. He has admitted on panel that he is weaker than Savage Hulk because he neglects his power. I'm not impressed with Thanos over powering professor Hulk because other has done it and easily. Now if it was Savage Hulk, it would have been very impressive buuuuuut.

Originally posted by carver9
The Hulk that you are using is one of the weakest Hulks that has ever existed. An unarmored Juggernaut overpowered him, grabbed his head, choked him and knocked Professor Hulk out with a couple of well placed blows. He has admitted on panel that he is weaker than Savage Hulk because he neglects his power. I'm not impressed with Thanos over powering professor Hulk because other has done it and easily. Now if it was Savage Hulk, it would have been very impressive buuuuuut.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has knocked around far more powerful foes than savage Hulk I mean even Thor has never lost and has fought against him for an hour or so.

But Thor did lose when Savage Hulk grabbed his arm and beat him senseless with his own hammer. Did you forget about that Quan? Thanos can't take Savage Hulk like you dream he could...his blasting power isn't working and his strength isn't helping him as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He mocked his strength as he overpowered him. He didn't just overpower him he did so to his friend Thing.

Thanos toyed with the heroes in the ig. Wolverine stabbed through him and his bones were turned into rubber. He turned Thor to glass. The comic showed creative ways for Thanos to use his powers despite warlock and Thanos knowing he'd mow through the competition and the only chance they'd have was the Surfer.

You aren't objective.

I'm being equally as objective as anyone who thinks that Thanos smacking the Hulk, and the Things heads together means any more than it did. They still did not fight, nor was he able to knock either of them out. Thanos exploited their center of gravity, which is something very easy to do, and requires less strength than you might think. Bringing this up constantly as some means of proof is as valid as me bringing up the Hulk jumping on Thanos, and only being able to be removed by turning the Hulk the size of a mouse. That is how Thanos got the Hulk off of him right? Saying no would be a lie, and it would then shift not being wanting to be objective towards you.

Originally posted by carver9
But Thor did lose when Savage Hulk grabbed his arm and beat him senseless with his own hammer. Did you forget about that Quan? Thanos can't take Savage Hulk like you dream he could...his blasting power isn't working and his strength isn't helping him as well.

Thanos is on a higher level. Hulk can be his pet gamma dog. That's as far as it goes.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm being equally as objective as anyone who thinks that Thanos smacking the Hulk, and the Things heads together means any more than it did. They still did not fight, nor was he able to knock either of them out. Thanos exploited their center of gravity, which is something very easy to do, and requires less strength than you might think. Bringing this up constantly as some means of proof is as valid as me bringing up the Hulk jumping on Thanos, and only being able to be removed by turning the Hulk the size of a mouse. That is how Thanos got the Hulk off of him right? Saying no would be a lie, and it would then shift not being wanting to be objective towards you.

He mocked their strength he isn't known for his razor quick reflexes in combat he's known for beating foes down with his power in hand to hand combat.

Thanos used creative ways to best Thor who was on top of him as well. Warlock stated they had no chance and Thanos wasn't even taking them seriously. He depowered himself just to take them on so they would have a chance but beating on Thanos couldn't ever beat him.

You are really reaching as you tend to do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That wasn't a victory Hulk actually forfeited since he dropped out of the fight. There are lots of back and forth moments between the two.

Thanos is on a higher level. Hulk can be his pet gamma dog. That's as far as it goes.

How did Hulk forfeit when he jumped off after seeing Thor limp, bloody body on the ground after his attack. Think Quan.

Uh huh...Thanos is on a different level huh? Is that the reason why he compared Hulk to Champion and hid behind his shields the entire fight...lol.

Originally posted by carver9
How did Hulk forfeit when he jumped off after seeing Thor limp, bloody body on the ground after his attack. Think Quan.

Uh huh...Thanos is on a different level huh? Is that the reason why he compared Hulk to Champion and hid behind his shields the entire fight...lol.

Thanos toyed with the Champion right after he assaulted him to put him in a position to hand him the gem. I could see Thanos letting WB Hulk destroy a planet leaving himself helpless against the Hulk as well.

Thanos is a thinker but that doesn't mean he can't brawl with the best of them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That wasn't a victory Hulk actually forfeited since he dropped out of the fight. There are lots of back and forth moments between the two.

Thanos is on a higher level. Hulk can be his pet gamma dog. That's as far as it goes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk left the battlefield before Thor lost that's how. I don't need to think about it but you obviously do.

Thanos toyed with the Champion right after he assaulted him to put him in a position to hand him the gem. I could see Thanos letting WB Hulk destroy a planet leaving himself helpless against the Hulk as well.

Thanos is a thinker but that doesn't mean he can't brawl with the best of them.

So he should have stayed there and killed Thor like Thanos tends to do in all of his fights.

Thanos didn't fight Champion like a man...he hid the entire time.

Thanos would get that a** tapped if he fought someone that is stronger than.him and that's exactly what the Hulk is.