Originally posted by ODG
^ With all due respect, if you're referring to the Doomsday Rex fight, you might want to re-read it. What other on-panel instances are you referring to?
Maybe toy could remind me then? While you’re at it, is there any one character here that is even able to throw 100 punches in a second? Are you denying that Superman has super speed that extends beyond just flying fast? If so, how then does he run at the speeds that he does? You’d imagine that he also moves his arms at these high speeds as well right? Why do people swing their arms while running? For balance right? Then since he moves his feet at these incredible speeds, we must also conclude that his arms move at these incredible speeds as well. We don’t even have to begin giving citations of his fights with evidence like this. Do we?
Originally posted by carver9
His question was simple, stoic. Are you going to show him
Carver you want to include the amount that a character can lift, how much power they can output, how powerful a telepath they can be, how much they can move with telekinesis, but you seem to become ignorant when the word speed is used. He is so much faster than any of these characters that it would be difficult to put into exact numbers. If this is the case, it would literally mean that they could not even perceive him as he hits them multiples of times. He would literally toss the Hulk into outer space before the Hulk had known that he was nearly to Jupiter. The same goes for the rest of these characters who are incapable of matching his speed. I don’t need to show anyone anything. As I stated, his running speed alone allows those of wisdom to realize that if he can run at those speeds, his hands can certainly move at those speeds as well. This is simple stuff. It’s you bias that stops you from seeing this simple truth.
Originally posted by StoicSure, ok. Let's move the goalposts then.
Maybe toy could remind me then? While you’re at it, is there any one character here that is even able to throw 100 punches in a second?
Show the instances where Superman throws 3000 100 punches while postal against opponents of current Thor's caliber and I will consider this on-panel evidence.
Originally posted by Stoic
I can’t help it. I’m on an iPad. Wish I knew of an alternative but I don’t. 🙁
You can help it. Don't be intentionally obtuse, always a good chance to learn new stuff.
Go to your iPad settings.
More than few ways to type messages on modern phones, including the good ol' multitap, which gives you full control.
Originally posted by ODG
Sure, ok. Let's move the goalposts then.Show the instances where Superman throws
punches while postal against opponents of current Thor's caliber and I will consider this on-panel evidence. [/B]3000[b]100
I’d actually need someone else to show these scenes, because I do not actually have the books, but I’m certain that there are a few people that can provide us with a few of his combat feats. Let me ask you though, how does he run as fast as he does? I’ve never seen his legs stretch half a mile, or turn into wheels. He’s under 7ft tall. How does he run at those speeds? Is it teleportation, time travel, high? He isn’t flying while running, so how does he do it?
My memory is off which is why I asked you since you remember how many punches he threw. Could any of these characters replicate it?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You can help it. Don't be intentionally obtuse, always a good chance to learn new stuff.Go to your iPad settings.
More than few ways to type messages on modern phones, including the good ol' multitap, which gives you full control.
I’ll check into it. I’m very new to Mac devices.
Originally posted by StoicI suggest that you don't ask others, much less me, to make your own arguments for you. I honestly think that goalposts are being moved (intentionally or not). So while I could make an honest effort to follow your lead earnestly... I fully expect to have my efforts be dismissed and be accused of mischaracterizing your points.
I’d actually need someone else to show these scenes, because I do not actually have the books, but I’m certain that there are a few people that can provide us with a few of his combat feats. Let me ask you though, how does he run as fast as he does? I’ve never seen his legs stretch half a mile, or turn into wheels. He’s under 7ft tall. How does he run at those speeds? Is it teleportation, time travel, high? He isn’t flying while running, so how does he do it?My memory is off which is why I asked you since you remember how many punches he threw. Could any of these characters replicate it?
Again... my initial point was this:
Originally posted by ODGNot truly interested in overthrowing your preconceptions. Just want an honest discussion on this point.
I suppose in a similar way that similar opponents have reacted when Superman does that on-panel. Would that notion offend you?
Originally posted by ODG
I suggest that you don't ask others, much less me, to make your own arguments for you. I honestly think that goalposts are being moved (intentionally or not). So while I could make an honest effort to follow your lead earnestly... I fully expect to have my efforts be dismissed and be accused of mischaracterizing your points.Again... my initial point was this: Not truly interested in overthrowing your preconceptions. Just want an honest discussion on this point.
I’m actually looking. It wasn’t in Superman 175 though where he battles DD Rex.
I made a mistake and posted this in the wrong thread to my embarrassment, but this is what someone stated that Superman can do based upon his speed.
SUPERMAN, WE'RE CURIOUS, HOW SUPER ARE YOU?
We've clocked Superman at mach 9350 inside earth’s atmosphere. That speed equates to around 2000/miles per second. Simple multiplication shows us that Superman's speed within our atmosphere is 120,000/miles per minute.
While on a galactic mission for peace, Superman triggered a malfunction inside our deep system satellite, the “Hubble-Millennia”. Sagantech was interviewed about the reported malfunction and we were all shocked to find out “a malfunction is the built in response to an object breaking light speed".
Let's assume (not my favorite thing to do) the fight was with an Earthling, Jet Li perhaps. Superman has just dodged an 80 mph 3 piece combo leaving Jet Li, out of JP8 for the next 60 seconds.
Superman moves at 120,000/miles per minute. There are 5,280 feet in a mile. That means Superman can move at 633,000,000/feet per minute. His first punch is launched from two feet away at mach 9350. Superman retracts his fist the same 24 inches and fires again.
We have 2 feet required for each knuckle sandwich being delivered and 2 feet needed to load the next. Superman’s fist moves at 633,000,000/feet per minute. When we divide that number by the 4 feet required each time he jacks Jet's jaw, we can inform Miss Lane at the “Planet” we're certain that
SUPERMAN CAN GIVE 158,400,000 punches in one minute.
Originally posted by ODG
I suggest that you don't ask others, much less me, to make your own arguments for you. I honestly think that goalposts are being moved (intentionally or not). So while I could make an honest effort to follow your lead earnestly... I fully expect to have my efforts be dismissed and be accused of mischaracterizing your points.Again... my initial point was this: Not truly interested in overthrowing your preconceptions. Just want an honest discussion on this point.
If they have the citing, it really doesn’t matter who shows it. The point is that we all know that Superman is far faster than any of these characters in this discussion. The question is are we willing to admit it. I mean since we are all trying to be honest and all.