Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It does, because we know how a raged up Superman fights - he takes them to the sun.And we know that 'normal' Thor and 'normal' Mjolnir (i.e. Thor without Allfather powerups and Mjolnir that's not been smashed) will burn up in the sun.
That's a completely untrue statement and you know it. There is more instances of Thor and Mjolnir being in the sun unharmed than there is not. We go by averages here last I remember.
And of course Superman wins. He's a winner. He's Mary Sue. He's always gonna beat most versions of everything. He's just such a ****ing awesome, well written character.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
That's a completely untrue statement and you know it. There is more instances of Thor and Mjolnir being in the sun unharmed than there is not. We go by averages here last I remember.And of course Superman wins. He's a winner. He's Mary Sue. He's always gonna beat most versions of everything. He's just such a ****ing awesome, well written character.
I don't go by averages. Moreover, everyone 'knows' Iceman is straight 😂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85The last couple of times Thor went into the sun, he didn't burn up??? I mean... he didn't have a good time exactly... but it wasn't like an instant defeat...
It does, because we know how a raged up Superman fights - he takes them to the sun.And we know that 'normal' Thor and 'normal' Mjolnir (i.e. Thor without Allfather powerups and Mjolnir that's not been smashed) will burn up in the sun.
Kind of a low feat of Mjolnir, no?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, for sure - but CURRENT Thor, OTOH, wouldn't even feel a tickle in the sun.
But how does he react to 3000 punches being mailed to him as Superman goes postal. How would Thor realistically even hit him? We aren’t even talking about him going to the sun at this point.
Originally posted by StoicI suppose in a similar way that similar opponents have reacted when Superman does that on-panel. Would that notion offend you?
But how does he react to 3000 punches being mailed to him as Superman goes postal. How would Thor realistically even hit him? We aren’t even talking about him going to the sun at this point.
Originally posted by ODG
I suppose in a similar way that similar opponents have reacted when Superman does that on-panel. Would that notion offend you?
It doesn’t offend me. It however doesn’t make sense. What happened in a comic book is based on plot. When we completely remove plot from the picture and go by the rules of a battle forum, Thor would not perceive Superman punching the crap out of him, nor would the Hulk, because neither of those two would be moving within the same time zone as Superman. He is so much faster than they are that the only battle that would ever see them going blow for blow, would be one that Superman forces himself to lower his speed to their level.
They would never even be able to touch him unless he wanted them to. Again. What you see in comic books does not always work in a battle forum that remembers things of this nature. When was the last time that you’ve ever seen Thor move from one country to the next and back again before anyone notices that he had ever left the room? When has he ever thrown 3000 punches? In my estimate it would take Thor quite a few appearances to throw that many punches, while Superman can do so in a panel.
Originally posted by ODG
^ Methinks thou protest too much. If you stick to on-panel evidence rather than preconceived notions/extrapolations, you might find less reason to fuss about it.
On panel evidence in this case would ignore speed. There is a huge speed gap between them. Perhaps if you began to accept that huge differences in speed would actually offset a battle between these guys and show that it gives Superman an unfair advantage, you’d be less inclined to argue the point.
When he fights against Doomsday I believe. I really do believe it. The very same way that Superman uses his arms as he runs, and his arms move on both sides of his body alone shows that he’s more than capable of launching such an attack on these guys. He also has a scene that he is talking in super speed, he actually has a full blown conversation before even one second has passed.
He would literally leave theses guys in a lag party, and when time finally catches up with them, they’d all be left KO’d playing squash on the curb. Think forum encounter that has them all operating at peak capacity, and where Su-reman actually uses his full speed to do combat with slower characters than himself. How man mountain crushing punches could Thor weather? 3? Maybe?
While we have on panel evidence of Superman having long conversations (while taking off his tie) within the fraction of a nanosecond
Superman perceiving and operating on the femtosecond level.
And many other feats.
It's fair to say that when Superman is fighting at his best he will perceive Thor as a frozen statue.