Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I was going to go through this post neatly, but it's just a mess of text, kind of like the context contained within.Thanos never beat Surfer because Surfer didn't destroy the planet. That's logic for you. Nothing Thanos has ever done counts because thhe characters didn't destroy a planet.
Your brain doesn't work, no offense.
? Thanos beat Surfer when Surfer wasn't fighting at his best as shown before. Surfer didn't use super speed, black holes attacks, planet shattering blasts, board from behind tricks, phasing ability, shielding, etc. You keep on arguing this nonsense like an idiot. Actually we have two different viewpoints on which characters should be used. You use average portrayals and I use the one's where characters are performing to their best ability. With this difference it is impossible to debate since it would be impossible to see eye to eye because we are looking at different things. Also X beating Y in a comic holds no water in itself. It is how X beat Y that holds the water. Learn this and you will be smart in the future.
No, a weak Thanos destroyed a planet with a weak character. That's what happened.
If I push a button with another and it caused the planet to be destroyed then was it my all my power that caused the destruction? No, Thanos and Drax only put the planet in instability, after that the planet destroyed itself with ITS OWN ENERGY and not Thanos or Drax's energy. That means that Thanos didn't supply 1/1000th of the power of destroying the planet. He rather pushed a tough button with the help of Drax which activated the planet to destroy itself. Also all characters have low showings. Superman got koed by a gas station. So Drax being handled by She-Hulk is understandable in comics (PIS) but can't be used here on the forum.
Thanos survived a god damn gas giant. Also, Surfer's planet destroying power is omni directional... Terrax, well, you're stupid... so that's how I'm going to answer that. Not even going to toy with Terrax destroying a planet against Thanos since Terrax is nothing to him. Gladiator can strike in a small surface. Gladiator also in one of his best feats (matching Tyrant for a second) got destroyed, while Thanos actually was able to give him a fight... because Thanos has no offensive power or defensive power.
It's called context. It's not about how a fight ends but what happened in the fight that caused the outcome. If Glads was alone fighting Tryant then the fight would have lasted a long time. Tryant sent another character into Glads causing Glads to get distracted and which gave Tyrant the cheapshot opportunity. In the fight against Thanos we don't see Tryant cheapshotting Thanos nor do we see Thanos taking beat down like punches from Tryant either. And what about the amp Thanos had with the orb?
And Surfer survived inside the core of a star, even absorbed a gas giant, and a black hole without any damage. That trumps anything Thanos has done durability wise.
Thanos has no offensive power... that's why he killed Surfer in a few punches... or right never happened. This is terrible. Thanos has no feats in comics because you have no brain cells in your head.
This is what I'm supposed to respond to, really?
It's called a combo to ko. I didn't claim that Thanos doesn't have the offensive power in his punches to hurt a herald. Surfer at his best wouldn't have got touched by Thanos fists at all. It was a serious job fest by Surfer that fight. A CIS off Surfer can at least stalemate Thanos which was my original argument (a Surfer usually portrayed in comics would lose against Thanos),
His shields got pierced and he got hit directly by the attack. Also lol at saying him using shields doesn't count. Do you think he won't use shields or something?
I'm not sure how much hit Thanos, if any. The art isn't too clear. But Galactus stopped the moment Thanos pleaded. Maybe he got hit a second before stopping who knows. But those weren't his personal shields but shields from outside power source. In the forum he can't use outside shielding unless the OP says so.
Ya, Tyrant didn't do much... how do you function? Serious question? There's obviously a lack of oxygen going on there.
Anyway... Tyrant is among the few people who have actually managed to cause Thanos a good amount of harm.
And Gladiator didn't go toe to toe with him. He got destroyed head on. All he did was briefly hold off his eye beams and then got overpowered and face punched. Gladiator got what? 2 punched?
Thanos had an orb that amped his attacks that came out of the orb.
I don't have to lie. I would have to shoot myself in the head, survive, become immensely retarded in the process because I destroyed a portion of my brain, and then get online and tell people that Thanos loses to Gladiator, for me to believe that Thanos loses to Glads or Terrrax, or other trash characters.
Context is your friend. You can tell people that if Glads fought at his best and highest confidence then he can beat Thanos using speed. Terrax would lose against Thanos though since he isn't fast enough. Stop thinking of only winning and losing and start thinking of HOW ONE WINS OR LOSES. Then you would understand how my retarded brain thinks.
A lot of things below planetary have caused Galactus harm? Name them. Show scans.
It did harm Galactus, and it did push him away. You should have learned how to argue.
No one has done that to Galactus though, that's the point. Also good job ignoring Surfer never causing Galactus any damage, Terrax never causing him any damage, and Beta with a planet destroying attack not damaging Galactus. If not knowing anything is your bread, then ignoring everything is your butter.
You first mentioned that it was awesome because it sent him miles away. Who cares? Did it harm him is the only relevant thing here.
I was referring to planetary level attacks and not beings who have shown the ability to have planetary level attacks. Here are a few that harmed Galactus with less than planetary leveling attacking, Sue and Thor.
You must know that when a character is seen attacking in comics isn't always the level they been shown before. For example, when Glads punches Thor or another character then he isn't using the same force that he used the shatter the planet. Surfer blasting someone isn't the same level of blast that he used to destroy a planet. And again context is your friend. How did Bill destroy a planet? Was it because he accelerated into it after flying for awhile? I wouldn't call that planetary level ability. Now if Bill just stood there on the planet and shattered it from one blow then you would have a point.
You don't read comics though. You have no idea what you're talking about 100% of the time. You don't know averages, high showings, or low showings. You know random scans that you attribute as high showings.
There's probably more I missed, but you have no idea what's going on, so I'm not worried about covering too many bases. Absolutely no idea. Not a clue.
Reading comics is for understanding averages or the context in which the feat was done. I don't need to read the entire story to see the common sense of a single feat. Do I need to read the entire story to understand that Surfer can travel lightyears in mere moments? That is why we have a respect thread with scans without the entire comic it came from. Any idiot can understand the feats without needing to read the whole comic.
P.S. I do read comics just not enough for you though.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I was actually thinking about that, but h1 would have somehow said that that was less than a planetary attack... being trapped in a black hole and somehow escaping that is. IMO it's a pretty cool feat.Omnidirectional, too small... I don't know, my brain isn't decayed enough to think of why that's less than a planet destroying attack, or why it doesn't count.
But mark my words, it doesn't count in his eyes. Thanos has no feats. Thanos isn't allowed high feats. Everyone else has high feats vs a character with no feats. This is how you debate.
I assumed Thanos has his highest feats when I first posted.
