Look at what being bored accomplished... I actually checked my subscribed threads. Plus, having no respect for you let's me go against me not liking multiple day debates, so there's that.
Originally posted by h1a8You use portrayals almost never seen in comics.
? Thanos beat Surfer when Surfer wasn't fighting at his best as shown before. Surfer didn't use super speed, black holes attacks, planet shattering blasts, board from behind tricks, phasing ability, shielding, etc. You keep on arguing this nonsense like an idiot. Actually we have two different viewpoints on which characters should be used. You use average portrayals and I use the one's where characters are performing to their best ability. With this difference it is impossible to debate since it would be impossible to see eye to eye because we are looking at different things. Also X beating Y in a comic holds no water in itself. It is how X beat Y that holds the water. Learn this and you will be smart in the future.
Surfer has only phased through walls. Surfer rarely uses shields. Surfer has created black holes once or twice, and Surfer didn't have time for board from behind tricks as he was getting beaten to death. This is retarded. If a character vastly above a character beats a character too quick for them to accomplish... anything, it means the character vastly below is not fighting to their best? What the ****? This is horseshit and you know it.
The writer showed Thanos was way above Surfer, and you want to ignore it because it doesn't fit into your narrow minded criteria. That's what it is.
Originally posted by h1a8So, Thanos and Drax make a planet blow up in a panel and they barely had anything to do with it... is what you're saying? Do I even need to look at the fight to see that there's something wrong with this?
If I push a button with another and it caused the planet to be destroyed then was it my all my power that caused the destruction? No, Thanos and Drax only put the planet in instability, after that the planet destroyed itself with ITS OWN ENERGY and not Thanos or Drax's energy. That means that Thanos didn't supply 1/1000th of the power of destroying the planet. He rather pushed a tough button with the help of Drax which activated the planet to destroy itself. Also all characters have low showings. Superman got koed by a gas station. So Drax being handled by She-Hulk is understandable in comics (PIS) but can't be used here on the forum.
What about Drax having trouble with Mar-Vell who Thanos can and has easily beaten? What about Thanos one shotting Drax? What about Thanos taking Drax's blasts to no effect? Drax was so far below Thanos it's laughable.
Originally posted by h1a8If Glads was alone he would have been swiftly killed. Because Tyrant was far above Gladiator.
It's called context. It's not about how a fight ends but what happened in the fight that caused the outcome. If Glads was alone fighting Tryant then the fight would have lasted a long time. Tryant sent another character into Glads causing Glads to get distracted and which gave Tyrant the cheapshot opportunity. In the fight against Thanos we don't see Tryant cheapshotting Thanos nor do we see Thanos taking beat down like punches from Tryant either. And what about the amp Thanos had with the orb?And Surfer survived inside the core of a star, even absorbed a gas giant, and a black hole without any damage. That trumps anything Thanos has done durability wise.
Thanos also didn't get three shotted like Glads... in what was one of Glads' more impressive feats.
And the orb amped his offensive blast power.
Surfer didn't absorb a gas giant or a black hole...
I like how you're using objects as opposed to characters to try and paint Surfer as more durable. I'll give you a small comparison later.
But for now, Thanos survived attacks from the IG to get up and walk away...
Originally posted by h1a8It's called every punch ****ed Surfer's world up. If he wouldn't be touched by fists, then he'd be blasted. How simple was that H1?
It's called a combo to ko. I didn't claim that Thanos doesn't have the offensive power in his punches to hurt a herald. Surfer at his best wouldn't have got touched by Thanos fists at all. It was a serious job fest by Surfer that fight. A CIS off Surfer can at least stalemate Thanos which was my original argument (a Surfer usually portrayed in comics would lose against Thanos),
But you just said Surfer was more durable than Thanos...
It was Thanos beating up Surfer actually.
Originally posted by h1a8The shields were pierced and Thanos was trapped inside with Galactus' beams.
I'm not sure how much hit Thanos, if any. The art isn't too clear. But Galactus stopped the moment Thanos pleaded. Maybe he got hit a second before stopping who knows. But those weren't his personal shields but shields from outside power source. In the forum he can't use outside shielding unless the OP says so.
Originally posted by h1a8No he couldn't. He'd run into a blast and then get destroyed.
Context is your friend. You can tell people that if Glads fought at his best and highest confidence then he can beat Thanos using speed. Terrax would lose against Thanos though since he isn't fast enough. Stop thinking of only winning and losing and start thinking of HOW ONE WINS OR LOSES. Then you would understand how my retarded brain thinks.
Originally posted by h1a8It was awesome because it did that... because no one else has done that, and it damaged his armor, which doesn't come easy. It also sent him reeling, so there is evidence of it hurting him too.
You first mentioned that it was awesome because it sent him miles away. Who cares? Did it harm him is the only relevant thing here.
So there.
Originally posted by h1a8So Surfer always holds back when he tries to stop Galactus? Terrax at his best held back against Galactus? Beta Ray Bill with the exact same attack that destroyed planets held back against Galactus? That's your logic?
I was referring to planetary level attacks and not beings who have shown the ability to have planetary level attacks. Here are a few that harmed Galactus with less than planetary leveling attacking, Sue and Thor.
Sue... haha. Sue put a invisispike through an alternate Galactus that did absolutely nothing against the ALTERNATE GALACTUS.
And Thor. Well, you speak of cheapshots earlier, so why does Thor not apply? Anyway, Thor cheapshotted a weakened Galactus twice. And one was a Godblast. If you don't think a Godblast is above planet destroying power...
Originally posted by h1a8
You must know that when a character is seen attacking in comics isn't always the level they been shown before. For example, when Glads punches Thor or another character then he isn't using the same force that he used the shatter the planet. Surfer blasting someone isn't the same level of blast that he used to destroy a planet. And again context is your friend. How did Bill destroy a planet? Was it because he accelerated into it after flying for awhile? I wouldn't call that planetary level ability. Now if Bill just stood there on the planet and shattered it from one blow then you would have a point.
You know what the funny thing about when Surfer destroyed a planet was? That it caused NO DAMAGE to Ravenous when Ravenous WAS HIT by the same blast, and WAS ON THE PLANET. So ya, I've seen way more powerful Surfer blasts that wouldn't destroyed a grass stem next to the person he was blasting.
Bill destroyed a planet by accelerating into it. Bill did the exact same thing to Galactus. So ya, I would call that planet destroying level.
So no, you have no idea what you're talking about, so let's not try and say "Context is your friend"
Originally posted by h1a8All I got out of that is "I don't need to read the entire story"
Reading comics is for understanding averages or the context in which the feat was done. I don't need to read the entire story to see the common sense of a single feat. Do I need to read the entire story to understand that Surfer can travel lightyears in mere moments? That is why we have a respect thread with scans without the entire comic it came from. Any idiot can understand the feats without needing to read the whole comic.
P.S. I do read comics just not enough for you though.
Originally posted by h1a8Oh, so you assume Thanos beat Surfer to death? Thanos beat the Death's Mouth easily and that being gave Surfer massive trouble? That Thanos was able to match IB's energy output when IB has one shotted Surfer? That Thanos was able to stand up to Odin when Surfer was one shotted by Odin? That Thanos was able to damage Galactus' armor and send him flying when Surfer has never been able to effect Galactus... when Beta Ray Bill's planet destroying attack only left a tiny hole in his helmet? Thanos was able to stand up to Tyrant when Surfer/Gladiator/Beta Ray Bill were easily beaten by Tyrant? Thanos when he was just a spirit was able to give Surfer the most pain he's ever experienced? That Thanos was able to take Surfer's best shot to no effect? Thanos was able to beat Maker when Gladiator was terrified of her? Thanos was able to destroy multiple Punisher robots when just one has given Surfer trouble?
I assumed Thanos has his highest feats when I first posted.
Etc.
No you didn't. No you didn't at all. You know nothing of him.
Originally posted by StoicYou don't really seem to know anything at all when it comes to Thanos so I assume the same is true when it comes to Darkseid.
Going with Darkseid, and I am convinced that he has the raw physical strength, and durability to go round for round with Thanos. Damn it would be great if Marvel and DC became one corporation.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Look at what being bored accomplished... I actually checked my subscribed threads. Plus, having no respect for you let's me go against me not liking multiple day debates, so there's that.You use portrayals almost never seen in comics.
lol at your last part, what happens in comics holds no weight because you view it as holding no weight because of the way it happened.
But anyway, Surfer did try super speed. Surfer did try blasts. Thanos casually batted it and him away though, and soundly put to rest any doubt that he was above Surfer.Surfer has only phased through walls. Surfer rarely uses shields. Surfer has created black holes once or twice, and Surfer didn't have time for board from behind tricks as he was getting beaten to death. This is retarded. If a character vastly above a character beats a character too quick for them to accomplish... anything, it means the character vastly below is not fighting to their best? What the ****? This is horseshit and you know it.
Surfer never used his speed on Thanos. Surfer got beat to death because he wasn't fighting at his best (more like an idiot). Surfer here won't even get close to Thanos so that he can lay a hand on him. Phasing through walls is proof that he can phase. A CIS off surfer will use shields and black holes in a forum fight.
The writer showed Thanos was way above Surfer, and you want to ignore it because it doesn't fit into your narrow minded criteria. That's what it is.
But this is where you are misguided. This isn't a comic fight. When will you get it? A character isn't going to fight in the typical way as seen in comics but in ways that have been seen at their best. A Cis off fight is definitely not one that will happen in a comic. I'm arguing a cis off surfer vs. Thanos.
So, Thanos and Drax make a planet blow up in a panel and they barely had anything to do with it... is what you're saying? Do I even need to look at the fight to see that there's something wrong with this?
No, I don't think I do.
No they had a lot to do with it. But two people cuts the feat in half for Thanos, and having the planet do some of the work makes Thanos did less than half of destroying a planet. This is a great feat but certainly shitty when compared to other heralds highest feats.
What about Drax having trouble with Mar-Vell who Thanos can and has easily beaten? What about Thanos one shotting Drax? What about Thanos taking Drax's blasts to no effect? Drax was so far below Thanos it's laughable.
That has nothing to do with Surfer black holing Thanos or using his speed to be nigh unhittable or Surfer phasing or Surfer hitting Thanos from behind with the board at a million C. You must get out of the silly and rather dumb portrayal nonsense and concentrated how a cis off character will fight. You are much too lazy for comic debating. Here's your argument, "X character was shown greater than Y so he beats the shit out of Z, I don't care how Z fights either."
If Glads was alone he would have been swiftly killed. Because Tyrant was far above Gladiator.
Tyrant overpowered Gladiator's eyebeams, and then left him lying there so he could deal with others. If there were no other characters, Gladiator would have been finished there.
In a later example, he punched Beta into Glads, and then eyeblasted and punched him. While Glads was looking at him.
Again with the silly far above logic. The writer wouldn't have shown them to be stalemating if he was so far above Glads. And why in the hell did the writer have Tryant get the upper hand by cheapshotting Glads? If he is so far greater then surely the writer could have had him beat him straight up right?
Thanos also didn't get three shotted like Glads... in what was one of Glads' more impressive feats.
And the orb amped his offensive blast power.
I didn't even see Tyrant punch Thanos (or at least in a downward bash like the others). Did the comic say it only amped his offensive power? If so, then you are right but it is still about how the fight went down and not the fact X character survived.
Surfer didn't absorb a gas giant or a black hole...
I like how you're using objects as opposed to characters to try and paint Surfer as more durable. I'll give you a small comparison later.But for now, Thanos survived attacks from the IG to get up and walk away...
Also we are not so sure how much force was used on Thanos since Magus seemed like he wanted to punish Thanos, not kill him. The blow seemed as such that even Thor would have survived. Otherwise, you are using a retarded argument that Thanos can't be killed by the IG. Are you seriously offering that as an argument?
It's called every punch ****ed Surfer's world up. If he wouldn't be touched by fists, then he'd be blasted. How simple was that H1?
Surfer is too fast and can use shielding and phasing ability when cis if off. Plus what about Surfer's ftl speed reflexes? I guess that only comes into play when he's fighting Superman or a D.C. character huh? 🙄
But you just said Surfer was more durable than Thanos...It was Thanos beating up Surfer actually.
The shields were pierced and Thanos was trapped inside with Galactus' beams.
Shields from an outside source... what outside source? Was Pip supplying him shields? Because Thanos' ship was blown up at that point in time.
So, h1 logic is that something... somewhere was supplying Thanos shields... YOU DID IT AGAIN H1!
We don't know how much Thanos took of Galactus beam before pleading (1 sec, 2 sec,...). Also, Thanos called on ALL power to be deployed in the shielding. Why would Thanos call on this if the power was not coming from an outside source?
No he couldn't. He'd run into a blast and then get destroyed.
Why would Terrax lose though? You just spent a decent period of time telling me that planet destroying attacks are above Thanos, did you not? According to you, Thanos has no planet destroying power, and Terrax does. So what gives H1? Do you not believe in your own shitty logic?
Thanos hasn't shown the ability to one shot a planet. So he doesn't get it. Surfer with ftl reflexes is not running into a blast let alone really needs to dodge them at all. Otherwise, I can say Surfer black holes the shit out of Thanos without Thanos doing anything about it.
It was awesome because it did that... because no one else has done that, and it damaged his armor, which doesn't come easy. It also sent him reeling, so there is evidence of it hurting him too.
So there.
Sue did it.
So Surfer always holds back when he tries to stop Galactus? Terrax at his best held back against Galactus? Beta Ray Bill with the exact same attack that destroyed planets held back against Galactus? That's your logic?
No! Characters power levels and stupidity fluctuate from comic to comic. We have Superman getting koed by a gas station, Thor succumbing to bullets, Thor resisting Celestial beams, Superman using pressure points and coffee shop perception, etc.
Sue... haha. Sue put a invisispike through an alternate Galactus that did absolutely nothing against the ALTERNATE GALACTUS.
Doesn't matter as it penetrated his armor.
And Thor. Well, you speak of cheapshots earlier, so why does Thor not apply? Anyway, Thor cheapshotted a weakened Galactus twice. And one was a Godblast. If you don't think a Godblast is above planet destroying power...
No it is not above planet destroying power. But who cares since this paragraph is irrelevant anyways.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't really seem to know anything at all when it comes to Thanos so I assume the same is true when it comes to Darkseid.
No. What it is, is that you place Thanos way above his station. I hope for your sake that Thanos is never beaten down or challenged by a character considered to be two tiers below Odin, because it' going to sting.
Originally posted by Stoic
Going with Darkseid, and I am convinced that he has the raw physical strength, and durability to go round for round with Thanos. Damn it would be great if Marvel and DC became one corporation.
When that happens, rabid fan dogs will finally overload the internet. Mark my word. Mark them!
Originally posted by Sr J-BiebWhat are you saying that Surfer can't destroy planets or that every blast he makes against someone we should assume that he isn't blasting at planet power? What was the context of the green stem? Do you even know?
So your logic is that whenever Gladiator punches a character that he isn't using planet destroying force? Do you proof read what you write?You know what the funny thing about when Surfer destroyed a planet was? That it caused NO DAMAGE to Ravenous when Ravenous WAS HIT by the same blast, and WAS ON THE PLANET. So ya, I've seen way more powerful Surfer blasts that wouldn't destroyed a grass stem next to the person he was blasting.
Bill destroyed a planet by accelerating into it. Bill did the exact same thing to Galactus. So ya, I would call that planet destroying level.
So no, you have no idea what you're talking about, so let's not try and say "Context is your friend"
Look at HOW Bill hit G and look at how he hit the planet. Any difference?
irrelevant since the entire story has nothing to do with the magnitude of a feat. If Hulk lifts a tank then who cares if he was chatting with Dr. Strange about him sharing Betty prior.All I got out of that is "I don't need to read the entire story"
Your deflection isn't fooling anyone. You don't read comics.
That's irrelevant. If not, then how does it tells us how Thanos would beat a Surfer using his top speed, black holeing, phasing, board tricks, etc. Thanos wouldn't be able to respond to Surfer.Oh, so you assume Thanos beat Surfer to death? Thanos beat the Death's Mouth easily and that being gave Surfer massive trouble? That Thanos was able to match IB's energy output when IB has one shotted Surfer? That Thanos was able to stand up to Odin when Surfer was one shotted by Odin? That Thanos was able to damage Galactus' armor and send him flying when Surfer has never been able to effect Galactus... when Beta Ray Bill's planet destroying attack only left a tiny hole in his helmet? Thanos was able to stand up to Tyrant when Surfer/Gladiator/Beta Ray Bill were easily beaten by Tyrant? Thanos when he was just a spirit was able to give Surfer the most pain he's ever experienced? That Thanos was able to take Surfer's best shot to no effect? Thanos was able to beat Maker when Gladiator was terrified of her? Thanos was able to destroy multiple Punisher robots when just one has given Surfer trouble?
Etc.
No you didn't. No you didn't at all. You know nothing of him.
Let me put it this way. If Surfer placed a black hole on Thanos then Thanos is either dead or seriously ucked up. Anything you say is irrelevant to this. FACT!
Originally posted by StoicThanos blasts Galactus on his ass, beats cube beings in combat, manhandled Lord Mar-vell, took on power gem Thor, etc. yet you won't give him any credit.
No. What it is, is that you place Thanos way above his station. I hope for your sake that Thanos is never beaten down or challenged by a character considered to be two tiers below Odin, because it' going to sting.
Quit chirping you know I'm right and you're just too into this stuff on a personal level to be objective.
Originally posted by h1a8Surfer had speedlines coming from him.
Surfer never used his speed on Thanos. Surfer got beat to death because he wasn't fighting at his best (more like an idiot). Surfer here won't even get close to Thanos so that he can lay a hand on him. Phasing through walls is proof that he can phase. A CIS off surfer will use shields and black holes in a forum fight.
Surfer got beat to death because Thanos was far above him.
Phasing through walls is proof he can phase through walls.
Shields will accomplish little. And black holes will accomplish little against a character who can teleport.
Originally posted by h1a8This isn't a comic fight, but it is based on comics.
But this is where you are misguided. This isn't a comic fight. When will you get it? A character isn't going to fight in the typical way as seen in comics but in ways that have been seen at their best. A Cis off fight is definitely not one that will happen in a comic. I'm arguing a cis off surfer vs. Thanos.
I know what you're trying to say, but it's still in comics that Thanos is far above Surfer in power, and that is something you're trying to ignore as well (based on this whole Surfer destroys planets crap).
Plus, your whole argument is that a strong majority of comics don't count, but let me use some feats from comics! It's ridiculous to say the least.
Originally posted by h1a8Two people doesn't cut it in half when Drax is Mar-Vell level.
No they had a lot to do with it. But two people cuts the feat in half for Thanos, and having the planet do some of the work makes Thanos did less than half of destroying a planet. This is a great feat but certainly shitty when compared to other heralds highest feats.
It is a shitty feat, I agree. But it's the weakest Thanos we have seen on panel against a Mar-Vell level being. And it might have even been a Thanos robot at that...
Originally posted by h1a8You're right, it doesn't, but what it has to do is with you trying to make the Thanos/Drax fight a split power between them.
That has nothing to do with Surfer black holing Thanos or using his speed to be nigh unhittable or Surfer phasing or Surfer hitting Thanos from behind with the board at a million C. You must get out of the silly and rather dumb portrayal nonsense and concentrated how a cis off character will fight. You are much too lazy for comic debating. Here's your argument, "X character was shown greater than Y so he beats the shit out of Z, I don't care how Z fights either."
The comic examples paint a picture of the vast power difference. And you're too lazy to read comics, so you figure you can go around saying "Hey I saw all the best feats in this respect thread, so I'm going to (try to) debate purely off of that"
Surfer isn't throwing it board at Thanos at a million C. That's for damn sure. Even if, it leaves Surfer floating around in space as an easy target for Thanos... especially since he's going to need some momentum to get his board up to a million C and some focus seeing as he's controlling it mentally.
Originally posted by h1a8They never stalemated though.
Again with the silly far above logic. The writer wouldn't have shown them to be stalemating if he was so far above Glads. And why in the hell did the writer have Tryant get the upper hand by cheapshotting Glads? If he is so far greater then surely the writer could have had him beat him straight up right?
He dropped Glads the first time they met face to face, and then fought other beings. Did you even look at the fight at all?
And he knocked him out in two attacks when Gladiator was LOOKING RIGHT AT HIM.
Tyrant beat up Surfer easily, two shotted Beta Ray Bill, three shotted Gladiator, but you don't think Tyrant was far above Gladiator?
How much thought did you put into that paragraph? Honestly?
Originally posted by h1a8So because Tyrant never punched Thanos it isn't comparable at all? I've never seen anyone nitpick so much against things used against him, yet bring up everything as his own proof.
I didn't even see Tyrant punch Thanos (or at least in a downward bash like the others). Did the comic say it only amped his offensive power? If so, then you are right but it is still about how the fight went down and not the fact X character survived.
You're a terrible debator honestly.
Originally posted by h1a8He hit him while he was pissed off. That's enough for me.
Also we are not so sure how much force was used on Thanos since Magus seemed like he wanted to punish Thanos, not kill him. The blow seemed as such that even Thor would have survived. Otherwise, you are using a retarded argument that Thanos can't be killed by the IG. Are you seriously offering that as an argument?
No I'm not saying Thanos can't be killed by the IG, I'm saying he took his shots. Use your brain.
You want a terrible argument?
How about saying that planet destroying attacks are above Thanos when Thanos has shown he outputs more power than Surfer in every appearance with them in it? How about saying that Surfer is more durable than Thanos? How about saying that Gladiator would have done better against Tyrant on his own when he was paired with two people more powerful than him? How about saying the Godblast is not more powerful than a planet destroying attack? How about using Sue putting a spike through an alternate Galactus as proof that 616 Galactus can be damaged by... Sue?
Etc. Also on that last one, you're going to nitpick absolutely everything but bring up the Sue example as a serious example? Even if that was 616 Galactus, you just called She-Hulk beating up Drax PIS, and then think that Sue piking Galactus is acceptable?
Really? You're the biggest hypocritical simpleton on this site.
Originally posted by h1a8Show me Surfer phasing through a character... a blast, a living object. Surfer using it as a defense?
Surfer is too fast and can use shielding and phasing ability when cis if off. Plus what about Surfer's ftl speed reflexes? I guess that only comes into play when he's fighting Superman or a D.C. character huh? 🙄
I never doubted Surfer's reflexes, but he will get hit. Thanos has enough reflexes to respond to him. Responding to Fallen One's blitz, Surfer, Gany, Jack of Hearts, etc. Plus he's got the ability to hit his mind, trap Surfer in a shield, etc.
His shields aren't going to hold off against Thanos blasts when Thanos has easily blown through Quasar's shield where a couple Surfer level people failed to get through.
And Surfer's reflexes only come into play in a Superman fight when people say that Superman will blitz him. Your brain isn't only there to weigh your head down. Use it sometimes.
Surfer is one of my favorite characters. lol at trying to call me bias.
Originally posted by h1a8He took a reasonable amount and then pleaded.
We don't know how much Thanos took of Galactus beam before pleading (1 sec, 2 sec,...). Also, Thanos called on ALL power to be deployed in the shielding. Why would Thanos call on this if the power was not coming from an outside source?
So the narration didn't have to say that he used all of his shielding?
Where would Thanos have gotten this shielding though H1?
Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos hasn't shown the ability to one shot a planet. So he doesn't get it. Surfer with ftl reflexes is not running into a blast let alone really needs to dodge them at all. Otherwise, I can say Surfer black holes the shit out of Thanos without Thanos doing anything about it.
I noticed you ignored Terrax vs Thanos in my post. So, why doesn't Terrax beat Thanos H1?
Originally posted by h1a8Do you not pay attention to anything said at all?
Sue did it.
Originally posted by h1a8So basically, Surfer has held back everytime he's tried to stop Galactus, is what you're trying to say?
No! Characters power levels and stupidity fluctuate from comic to comic. We have Superman getting koed by a gas station, Thor succumbing to bullets, Thor resisting Celestial beams, Superman using pressure points and coffee shop perception, etc.
Originally posted by h1a8How do you function? Like, how do you remember to drink water everyday, or breath even?
Doesn't matter as it penetrated his armor.
Originally posted by h1a8K, the Godblast is not above an average herald destroying a planet. THE MOST POWERFUL ATTACK THOR HAS is not above planet destroying power. THE MOST POWERFUL ATTACK THOR HAS is not above Surfer's attack that FAILED TO DAMAGE RAVENOUS IN THE LEAST.
No it is not above planet destroying power. But who cares since this paragraph is irrelevant anyways.
Originally posted by h1a8Do you know how to read?
What are you saying that Surfer can't destroy planets or that every blast he makes against someone we should assume that he isn't blasting at planet power? What was the context of the green stem? Do you even know?
Surfer with his planet destroying attack failed to cause any noticable damage to Ravenous. Ronan later hacked off half of Ravenous' face with a hammer shot, so we know Ravenous wasn't invincible.
Time for you to ignore that again.
And the grass was an example... Jesus.
Originally posted by h1a8He hit Galactus harder?
Look at HOW Bill hit G and look at how he hit the planet. Any difference?
Originally posted by h1a8So you don't read comics. Gotcha.
irrelevant since the entire story has nothing to do with the magnitude of a feat. If Hulk lifts a tank then who cares if he was chatting with Dr. Strange about him sharing Betty prior.
Originally posted by h1a8"Feats where Thanos outperforms Surfer by 10 fold is irrelevant"
That's irrelevant. If not, then how does it tells us how Thanos would beat a Surfer using his top speed, black holeing, phasing, board tricks, etc. Thanos wouldn't be able to respond to Surfer.
Shield/blasts, teleport, phasing... laughable.
I hope you realize "Board tricks" means Surfer is not on his board at the time...
My question to you though, is why does Surfer need to resort to being untouchable (IYO) when Surfer is more powerful than Thanos, and more durable (IYO)?
Or I go the H1 way and say Thanos lands a mind whammy on Surfer as soon as the fight starts, and then turns him into a butterfly and eats him. Or I scale up a power and say Thanos force blocks the whole area and traps Surfer there. Or Thanos turns Surfer's board into a butterfly, and then traps Surfer in a shield and BFR's him into the Crunch
H1 debating is fun! Sad part is Thanos in character beats CISless Surfer, and CISless Thanos absolutely destroys him.
Originally posted by h1a8Or Thanos teleports.
Let me put it this way. If Surfer placed a black hole on Thanos then Thanos is either dead or seriously ucked up. Anything you say is irrelevant to this. FACT!
Anything I say is irrelevant because you choose to ignore everything I say, actually. "BLACK HOLE" *earmuffs*
lol at a black hole killing Thanos though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos blasts Galactus on his ass, beats cube beings in combat, manhandled Lord Mar-vell, took on power gem Thor, etc. yet you won't give him any credit.Quit chirping you know I'm right and you're just too into this stuff on a personal level to be objective.
Actually Galactus was unfazed by the assault, but Thanos cried out for him to spare him.
Thanos defeated a Cube being that was incomplete and doubtful, yet was one shotted by that same Cube being.
Lord Mar-Vell has no strength or combat feats in terms of H2H so this statement means very little.
Thanos fought Thor while having very little mastery over the Power Gem, and was likely only tapping into it on a subconscious level. Merged Hulk handled Drax with the Gem as well. Another myth busted.
I'm not the one who challenged the opinion of Darkseid being on Thanos' level, and me feeling that a battle between the two would be very close. Who's making this personal again?
Originally posted by StoicI'm not the one who challenged the opinion of Darkseid being on Thanos' level, and me feeling that a battle between the two would be very close. Who's making this personal again?
merged Hulk, u mean professor Hulk?
b/c Professor Hulk never handled Drax. he fought him and was doing terrible at it while Drax was too stupid to realize he was in a fight and considered it playing.
Professor Hulk also got one shotted at four freedom plaza by Drax and later in the Infinity War Hercules and Professor Hulk were struggling to put down Drax while Drax was staring at them trying to figure out what they were doing,,
I have always bn on the fence with Mar Vell since he is suppose to be able to amp up with the Nega Bands and he has physically fought Thanos. One can argue he is just a 30 tonner and its PIS everytime or he can amp past it to 100+ and go punch for punch before being overpowered by Thanos..