Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
K. Death shuts off his powers.
Because that's how Death's powers work. She can kill things that can't usually die. Thanos can kill things that can't usually die.
Death gave Thanos powers to kill beings that can't die. Whatever way you want to put it, beings he kills go to Death's domain. What does that mean to you?I realize. He can die in one universe, he can't in another. Magus is irrelavant besides it being the first person Mar-Vell has seen die since his cancer.
Did you read what I said? Death does not shut off his powers. Dude read the context of the story. They cant die because that universe has no death in it. That is the only reason why they are unkillable. But since Thanos is an extension of death he is able to kill them. You are making up powers that thanos does not have. If i am wrong then prove it. I will gladly concede, because I am a huge Thanos fan and would love to see him able to kill everything he damn well pleases. I just see this much different the you I guess, o well.
Originally posted by Nihilist
He didnt come from their universe, he was a champion of life from another universe as seen in GOTG .Because there was no death in his universe, which he had gotten use to and dont forget his was the Avatar of the concerverse gods himself. It was because of the Elder gods, because when the GOTG killed the Revengers thats why they came back in a altered form Being Death and a Nihilist he automatically oppese anything pro life
I guess im just reading it different then you. They killed the Death aspect of that universe right? Which in turn made them all immortal right? But since death was using Thanos as an extension that universe it allowed for them to be killed right? Just because they are empowered doesnt make them immortal. Did I miss something where is say this? Also I would like to see where it say that thanos can kill any immortal that he wants. I cant recall that either. From Mar-vells statemant about destroying our universes death it implies that they are immortal because of the fact that their universes death no longer exists.
Originally posted by bbrem123When Marvell was dying it was made clear that accepting the Elder gods would make him immortal.
I guess im just reading it different then you. They killed the Death aspect of that universe right? Which in turn made them all immortal right? But since death was using Thanos as an extension that universe it allowed for them to be killed right? Just because they are empowered doesnt make they immortal. Did I miss something where is say this? Also I would like to see where it say that thanos can kill any immortal that he wants. I cant recall that either.
Why couldnt he can any immortal Deaths power is greater than?
Originally posted by bbrem123Good point. Death shuts off his powers.
Did you read what I said? Death does not shut off his powers. Dude read the context of the story. They cant die because that universe has no death in it. That is the only reason why they are unkillable. But since Thanos is an extension of death he is able to kill them. You are making up powers that thanos does not have. If i am wrong then prove it. I will gladly concede, because I am a huge Thanos fan and would love to see him able to kill everything he damn well pleases. I just see this much different the you I guess, o well.
Did I read what you said? Ha, of course I didn't.
I'll be seeing this thread when I get back since I predict it will be a huge smash.
It's funny how many people here are biased towards Thanos, yet they fail miserably to actually argue for him.
Right now, this thread isn't anymore about "Thanos VS Sentry", but "Death VS Sentry", since Thanos' only advantage in this one is his AOD upgrade and even that is debatable, since Thanos personally never faced someone with Sentry's unique power set.
And additionally to that I already adressed Thanos' credibility, since even he asked himself if Champion would survive a fall from the orbit and said that even immortality has it's limits.
I posted my opinion in a very long deconstruction of Quanchi's lack of knowledge about the Sentry and comic book characters, yet I guess that no one actually tried to read through it.
"Oh damn, lol too much text. Sentry got owned by a Helicarrier, Thanos wins."
What I'm witnessing right now is ignorance and stupidity at it's finest. Nihilist doesn't know crap, so he isn't responding with valid arguments and Quanchi who tried to do something like that adressed only crap, crap and even more crap.
Sentry wins, it's that simple.
If Sentry faces AOD Thanos, then it's at least a stalemate, since no one will be able to prove that Thanos could actually override the Sentry, since Thanos never did something like that to someone as unique as the Sentry and that was already adressed in this thread, which - as I mentioned it above - turned into a Death VS Sentry thread.
Enerzu, what is unique about Sentry is that he has complete control over his molecular structure and that his molecular structure is placed at a point ahead of the rest of the timestream he currently occupies.
Both of these facts can easily explain why he returned from both Morgan le Fay's assault and Molecule Man's.
But this in of itself does not prove that Sentry is immune to Thanos exercising his authority as Death's Avatar to straight kill beings. Thanos power in that regard trumps both the power of current Molecule Man and current Morgan le Fay.
And that's all I will say on that matter.
Originally posted by Nihilist
When Marvell was dying it was made clear that accepting the Elder gods would make him immortal.Why couldnt he can any immortal Deaths power is greater than?
Do you have scan of this...I wouldnt mind seeing it for myself. The thing that confuses me though is why did they have to destroy the death of there realm? Just so there was nobody to act against what they are doing?
Originally posted by quanchi112
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/TI_4_Headshot_CPS_023-1.jpg
Is Thanos actually praying or talking to the Void in this scan?
"Oh great Void of oblivion,,,,,she has used me for her own ends just like you have been."
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Originally posted by Enzeru
It's funny how many people here are biased towards Thanos, yet they fail miserably to actually argue for him.
Right now, this thread isn't anymore about "Thanos VS Sentry", but "Death VS Sentry", since Thanos' only advantage in this one is his AOD upgrade and even that is debatable, since Thanos personally never faced someone with Sentry's unique power set.And additionally to that I already adressed Thanos' credibility, since even he asked himself if Champion would survive a fall from the orbit and said that even immortality has it's limits.
I posted my opinion in a very long deconstruction of Quanchi's lack of knowledge about the Sentry and comic book characters, yet I guess that no one actually tried to read through it.
"Oh damn, lol too much text. Sentry got owned by a Helicarrier, Thanos wins."
What I'm witnessing right now is ignorance and stupidity at it's finest. Nihilist doesn't know crap, so he isn't responding with valid arguments and Quanchi who tried to do something like that adressed only crap, crap and even more crap.[b]Sentry wins, it's that simple.
If Sentry faces AOD Thanos, then it's at least a stalemate, since no one will be able to prove that Thanos could actually override the Sentry, since Thanos never did something like that to someone as unique as the Sentry and that was already adressed in this thread, which - as I mentioned it above - turned into a Death VS Sentry thread. [/B]
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Originally posted by EnzeruSomeone like Thor who isn't super fast either reacted and batted him away. Weaker characters Sentry can take apart with a speedy attack but no one Thor level or above so there went your point. Shame.
No, we have seen what Sentry does to characters without super speed and super reflexes. If they have a low durability, he flies behind them and rips their head off before they can even react.
All of these characters pretty much took on the Sentry. Thanos doesn't need to be faster he has the powerset and skill to tag characters in Sentry's speed range. Examples are the Silver Surfer and Fallen One. Thaos is fast enough and smart enough to negate the speed advantage.
No matter who it was, they were not able to react and took damage. WW Hulk, Blue Marvel, the Collective, Thor, Morgana, Doctor Doom and so on.
Thanos is not faster then these characters by any means, since he has been tagged and outspeeded by such characters on a regular basis.Sentry's speed > Thanos speed ... BY A HUGE MARGIN. And speed is always an important factor in a battle. [/B]
Sentry's speed is greater than Thanos but then again this isn't a race, kid. Thanos' intelligence>>>>>>Sentry's intelligence.
We've seen him want to die and actually ask for death from his foes. The Void and the Sentry are also directly opposed to each other. One is pure evil and malice while the other is pure heroism and goodness. Do you even know who the Sentry is ?What are personalities? Void has various kinds of forms, since he is a shape shifter. His personality was nearly always the same.[/B]
Thanos has faced far bigger threats than the Sentry. Hell, the Sentry burned himself out against the WW Hulk. The Sentry will be plain out of his league here if his powers burned out against an upper tier Hulk. Thanos ends his life/his energy. It's stated on panel the Sentry can be killed and it's stated on panel Thanos can cause permanent death. I win.
Thanos never faced someone with such an unique power set like the Sentry. And you still didn't adress the point, that the Sentry isn't life, but energy, which always manifests back again, after being destroyed / "killed off". [/B]
The Void is a lot more formidable than the Sentry. he doesn't hold back and isn't weighed down by guilt.
Who ever said that Void was a weaker version during the Siege of Asgard? I didn't say something like that. I simply said that Sentry and Void there were not over the TOP characters, who have to be used separately in battles.[/B]
I agree the Void hasn't ever on panel faced anyone near Thanos level and beaten him. Thanos has taken down power gem wielding Thor who ran rough shot over the Infinity Watch, the Surfer, and Classic Strange. Thanos takes down team wreckers with minimal ease. The Void exerts himself against far less than Thanos. No, the Void isn't anywhere near Thanos' league. Thanos brings down universes The Void failed to even take down asgard's forces. It's not even close. Thanos gets into battles with Celestials and Galactus while the Sentry's big threat is WW Hulk or that time he freaked out and fled against the Skrulls. 😂
Mainly because they had more impressive showings in the past. Who did the Void actually face during the Siege? No one stronger, then he was facing in the past, like the other instances, when he was pwning characters like classic Thor and classic Strange and Savage Hulk during the early years, when Sentry was mentally stable and so powerful, that the Void had to manifest himself as a separate entity, because he was not able to take control over Sentry's body.You know like, Sentry > Void > Everything he ever faced, before the insane Norn-stones upgrade > Thanos. [/B]
So it is his greatest weakness. The mind is the most dangerous thing we possess and it's his big flaw. 😂It's not his greatest weakness. It's his only weakness. [/B]
Superman can be beaten by other means than k-nite. Void can be beaten in other ways than simply screwing with his head which has happened. Thanos kills him and delivers permanent death.
Superman's only weakness is Kryptonite. When it comes to a fight against an other powerful opponent in a forum battle, do you shoot Superman with a Kryptonite gun, because Kryptonite it's his weakness? No.[/B]
The Sentry isn't always in a better mental state. The guy had to be coaxed into taking on WW Hulk. He was afraid to leave his home the guy is all over the map. Even when he did leave and poured into the WW Hulk it wasn't enough.
When Sentry was in a weak mental condition many people were able to manipulate him. Hell even Kingpin managed to do it and Kingpin is not exactly a Tony Stark or a Norman Osborn.
When Sentry was in a better mental condition, he stood above everyone else.Additionally to that Sentry's power level sinks, when he is in a weak mental condition. That is a well adressed fact in the world of comics and if you're not aware of that, then never ever answer to a Sentry debate again.
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It's easy to put him in a weak mental state and besides that he's been defeated just the same anyways. Either way you look at it I win.
Yes, he was in a weak mental state prior to the fight but cut loose on the Hulk. The comic made it plain as day according to this writer Sentry went all out like he's never done before. He wasn't portrayed as being less powerful just not powerful enough to get the job done. Bob lost because he was ko'd. That isn't a stalemate. 😂
During the WW Hulk #5 Sentry was in a weak mental condition. He was skipping the fight for few days, because he was unable to leave his house because of his agoraphobia. The fear of wide, open spaces, where he couldn't hide if it would come to a panic attack.
When Hulk decided to kill the heroes, Sentry knew that it was time to play God, he entered the battle and while still being weak and only having enough energy to bring it on a city busting level, it was still more than enough to actually have the upper hand in the fight against World War Hulk, one of the most powerful Hulk versions and to actually stalemate that Hulk in the end.[/B]
The Professor Hulk was easily overpowered. Sentry has a calming effect on him that's just situational. Sentry burning out his powers against a high end Hulk is flat out pathetic. Thanos goes runs with cube beings while the Sentry can't even put down the WW Hulk.
It was Professor Hulk who was able to punch Thanos around. And it was Savage Hulk, a stronger version then Professor Hulk who was not able to make the Sentry even flinch, when he threw a train onto him. Then Savage Hulk got overpowered by a stable Sentry mentally.
You know, like the Savage Hulk, who is supposed to be immune to telepathy, because of his brute nature.Whooooops, so far it isn't looking good for you! [/B]
You're in denial and not very good at debating. I feel bad for you.
Originally posted by EnzeruYou aren't going to be able to shake me off.
Did I adress it in this answer, or already in the one before? If it was in the one before, then you're being ridiculous right now, since you're not really reading my posts.
It's easy to put him in a weak mental state especially if you can weather the storm from him. It's called story telling. There is no explanation why it took him as long as it did just as there is no mention he's weaker in the story. They do mention he's never released so much of his power before and that's why he burns himself out. We puttered out. Pak admits it in an interview he wasn't weak by any means. It's just you making excuses.
Sentry was in a weak mental state. When something like that happens, his speed and his strenght sink.
Why do you think he needed so long to travel from his house to the battlefield? Because he was simply not that fast. There was an entire conversation and few actions during his flight, where Reed Richards was forced to kill Tony Stark, but stopped because Hulk decided to let them live and so on ...[/B]
Inconsistency in comics things don't always gel together. We see Flash struggle to hit lightspeed in one arc then go far beyond it easily in another. Blue Marvel was fighting other characters that's why he didn't react. He was taken by surprise. You're really bad at this.
It took Sentry probably minutes to fly to that point, while in the past he was speeding all over the world in seconds. He was flying from the Earth to the Sun during one single conversation multiple times, he was even flying from Earth to Saturn during one scream, he was flying from the orbit to the ground in one panel, basically an amount of time Blue Marvel couldn't even react to. [/B]
Stopped or beat the same meaning. Yes, sentry lost control and had to be stopped. Bruce did so. Thanos woulda killed him and easily. Lucky he ran into Bruce Banner.
Sentry thanked WW Hulk not for beating him, but for stopping him.
That was the entire point of the battle. It was the Sentry who lost the control over his powers and started destroying everything and it was the Hulk who had to stop him, while Sentry was gladly taking the punches, since he knew that he was the one who had to be stopped.[/B]
Says the guy twists showings around left and right. Yes, he was afraid of losing his control over his power as the Sentry. He usually is. It's a staple in the character not just this arc. You seem quite ignorant though when it comes to the Sentry so I can't get mad at you. Sentry was mentally unstable then but then again he is a lot of the time you can't just wish that part of his character away. 😂
Do you read comics, or do you just look at the pictures?
If you would actually read them and think about the entire story, then you would know that Sentry was indeed afraid of losing the control over his powers and that's also what happened during the WW Hulk fight. He was simply mentally unstable, lost control and his power level during that time was shredding city-blocks and turning into city-busting destruction.[/B]
Why would he need one in a fight ? At least he never struggled with lifting a helicarrier. 🙂
Thanos never had a lifting feat. LOL.[/B]
Professor Hulk is Hulk. They don't call him Professor Hulk in comics they call him Hulk. I don't think he's that much weaker but either way Thanos has easily shredded the Surfer and I doubt even WW Hulk could best him.
Yes, it is about punching people and no, Hulk did not attack Thanos. It was Professor Hulk who attacked Thanos, a much, much, much, much, much, much, much weaker version then World War Hulk.
WW Hulk was in disadvantage in his fight against Sentry, who went all out, but yet was in a weak condition, therefore didn't have the power level to simply burn through Hulk.Keep one thing in mind.[/B]
Sentry didn't lack power he lacked the power to finish the Hulk. He poured it into him it just didn't put him out. Whoops.
1.Collateral damage isn't indicative of power level. Just because Odin doesn't destroy a galaxy that doesn't mean he is holding back either. Sentry poured the bulk of his power into the Hulk he just took it.
1. Unstable Sentry who stays for days in his house, unable to leave and then still enters the battle to stop the WW Hulk ... Destroys a city by losing the control over his downgraded power.2. Unstable Sentry who is in his bed and afraid of the Void doesn't feel like entering the fight and stopping the Collective, who just killed the entire Alpha Flight (besides Sasquatch) and overpowered Binary, who is a planet buster ... yet after Captain America yells at him, he enters the battlefield and stalemates the Collective long enough.
3. Sentry, which mental issues are not adressed fights Photon and is afraid of destroying the entire planet during the fight. Photon teleports them into a microverse, together with Captain America. Sentry releases more of his power and starts destroying planets while still holding back.[/B]
3.Yes, he can destroy planets but so can Terrax. Not particularly impressive when considering other elite top tiers. LOL.
That's hyperbole and it's to be expected of an elite top tier. It also doesn't excuse or minimize other showings where he doesn't blow up planets. Hulk was being attacked by his power it wasn't enough. Period.
Photon teleports Captain America away, Sentry finally cuts loose for the very first time, since he is in an area where he can cut loose and you see his energy expanding in the real world, while he is in a microverse. That sir, is the power of one million exploding suns.Already adressed this point. Human Torch "overloaded" the Sentry with energy, basically one of the most stupid plot devices to get rid of the Sentry, since he was in the sun more then once and was doing just fine. [/B]
Keep ignoring it but it's still canon.
Yes, but the Sentry can't beat Thanos. He can't keep him down and he's mentally weak. Thanos isn't. Thanos can also cause permanent death.
Additionally to that Sentry would have been able to solo everyone on the battlefield in seconds, including Hammond. That's a fact everyone should be aware of.Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet and Doom felt Thanos' wrath. Doesn't sound like Thanos was going all easy on Doom who tried to steal the Infinity Gauntlet by force shortly before. Yet Doom survived thanks to his force fields / his armor, something what never bothered the Sentry in the past. [/B]
Thanos took it easy on the opposition. He wasn't worried for a moment. You seem to not comprehend the comics you debate about.
The Sentry is mentally unstable. Even in siege it came out and he demanded death. Trying to distance yourself from a character who has always been portrayed as crazy is pitiful.
As I mentioned it already. Even Kingpin managed to manipulate a mentally unstable Sentry. No biggie. You desperately want to make Sentry mentally unstable for the fight and additionally you talk about AOD Thanos, because maybe even you know what would happen otherwise.
Sentry > Thanos.
Sentry > Void.
That's the reason why Void wasn't able to kill Lindy. Because Sentry didn't allow him to, since he was still in love with Lindy. I don't know why I even adressed this point, since you once again proved that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. [/B]
Thanos>Void ( the guy wants death after a long battle)
Thanos >Sentry ( burned out by the WW Hulk, overload
ed by the Human Torch, chased off by Skrulls, outmaneuvered by Herc, etc.
How he battles the demons inside himself is his own business Thanos eradicates them all.
Originally posted by EnzeruThor did enough. One on one Thor doesn't have a chance because he can't weather his attacks but Thanos can. /thread.
Thor didn't do crap. He did only one thing correct during the entire battle and I will explain it to you in few seconds, but at first.It was Loki who acknowledged Void's power level as ... and I quote ... > all-powerful < ... Then he took all the Norn-stones and gave them to the heroes, who got an insane power upgrade and were able to harm the Void.
I don't think Thanos would have survived something like that. Basically attacks where even Captain America was able to do insane physical damage to the Void who was shrugging off Savage Hulk's best shots just fine in the past and broke all of his bones without any effort at all, as well overpowered him mentally on a regular basis.Thor had that power upgrade too and therefore he was also able to do damage to the Void. If Captain America can harm someone like the Void, then imagine how much damage Thor was dishing out, yet Void still somehow had the attack power to ignore a direct attack by the Norn-stones (which proves, that he is not vulnerable to magic) and one-shotted Loki, who was in a perfect condition before.
All powerful is hyperbole just as 1 million exploding suns but fans like yourself exaggerate and misrepresent this as 100 percent proof.
The heroes lost the upgrade and still managed to harm and later through his own desire to defeat the Void.
Thanos can survive anything he's immune to death. The guy tanked a cc blast he's that durable.
Many characters hurt the Void. Thor destroyed his entire body without an amp and he didn't come back because he wanted death.
Thor destroyed his entire body. WW Hulk burned out the Sentry. Blue Marvel stunned him for a moment or so. Human Torch defeated him yet your conclusion is Thanos a character considerably more powerful than these guys can't. Biased.
Thanos can't inflict enough damage to actually kill the nor, nor can he inflict enough damage to actually kill an even stronger Sentry.[/B]
The other characters couldn't kill them. Just because they aren't pivotal characters that doesn't undermine the sheer power of the feat. Thanos also dominated Lord Mar-vell physically. The guy showed hos powerful he is and Mar-vell wasn't fodder. Do you ever make sense ?
And now show me scans where Thanos overrides the life of beings who are not the typical comic book canon fodder and who have a similar power set to the Sentry.
You won't be able to, but it doesn't even matter, because.[/B]
1.Bob Reynolds stated kill me. That to me doesn't say he's beyond life since he used the words kill me. 😂 Thor killed him and he didn't come back because he didn't want to. Thanos prevents his return as avatar of death. On panel.1. Sentry stands above life, since he is supposed to be a manifestation out of energy, since his own molecules dwell in a different timeline. It doesn't matter if Thanos can override the life in a specific universe, if his opponent has a body in that universe but returns to a different point of existence and then returns back from there, by simply manifesting energy in the real world.
2. And not even that doesn't matter since how confidential is Thanos exactly? He once said that even immortality has it's limits after he tossed Champion from the orbit onto a planet and asked himself if Champion could survive the fall.
Way to go, Thanos. [/B]
2.So ? Thanos proved on panel he can cause permanent death as death's avatar. Thanos has the power to destroy the Void since Thor does. Thor can't prevent his return but Thanos can. Bob also asked for death due to his mental weakness flaring up like it has 60 percent of the time. 😂
Thanos is awesome. I am glad you admitted it.
I M not your mate I am your father. You tried to twist plenty of times the truth or the stories so what's one more time.
Funny to hear that out of your mouth, mate.Already adressed this point.[/B]
Thor can't beat the Void because he can't weather his attacks. Thor lost his amp and is powerful enough to destroy his body which he did. Void wasn't weakened he as Bob wanted death. Mental weakness. Don't worry Thanos will give him the cure for what ails him.
Thor can't beat the Void. Every damage Thor did to the Void was because of his power upgrade. Later on, when the Norn-stones disappeared he did the only one exact thing. He continued attacking an already very weakened Void.[/B]
The difference is Thanos is the adult and Senytry is the 10 year old kid here. One on one Sentry doesn't have a chance.
I already made the example once. If 10 guys beat the crap out of you, even a 10 years old child will inflict damage and be able to kick you in the nuts, while you won't be able to defend yourself, since you're already badly hurt.
But you could maybe still one-shot the child, if he somehow manage to hit him. The exact same thing happened during the Siege.a) the empowered heroes attacked and weakened the Void...
b) the power upgrade was gone and Thor continued attacking the Void, not giving him a chance to recover, since even Sentry and Void needed few seconds to start recovering...
c) Void still managed to kill Loki, who was sitting on the ground and tried to fight back...
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a. The heroes didn't weaken the Void Bob showed up and wanted death.
b. Thor wasn't powerful enough to keep him dead but was to destroy his body.
c. Yes, Void did kill Loki. Big whoop.
d.Yes, his mental weakness showed up. Unlucky for him. Thanos doesn't have a mental weakness like the Sentry has weighing him down.
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After he wins you are right he will just stand there.
Thanos won't do crap. [/B]
I don't have to prove anything. I proved Thanos is. You have no proof Void is. Void asked for death and got it. Thanos comes back and can't die despite wanting it or not. Thanos can cause permanent death to immortals. I proved that you just cried and pouted while I laughed and pointed at you.
You can't prove that Sentry isn't immune to death. Not even I - his greatest fan - can do something like that, since it was made pretty clear that he was standing above everything and in the end decided not to return.[/B]
Yes, the Void has the direct opposition in him which can flare up and want his own death. It's a mental weakness he can't get around. He couldn't even kill Bob's wife he needed someone else to do it because he can't overcome himself. He's a character pitted against himself and it's a huge weakness.
Why did he decide that? Because he was mentally weak and therefore he lost the battle? Uhm, no?
Since when is it a sign of weakness, if someone sacrifices himself to save the mankind? He knew that the Void would keep returning and causing death and destruction and in the end he decided to never return. He decided not to return to save the heroes, who were on the battlefield, fighting against the Void to save the mankind, yet it in the end it was Robert who always had the might to stop it.Do you actually see what you're doing?
There is no such a thing like a classic Sentry. The character never had a retcon, he always had and has his power level. His weakness was exploited from time to time, to depower him for the sake of the plot. What's the point in a Marvel Earth bound hero, who can solo the entire battlefield in 2 seconds?[/B]
The Sentry also has been bested and defeated through power. You want to ignore it all and pretend he was weaker without proof. Your entire argument is based off speculation whereas I post scans of what I claim. I'm awesome you aren't. No biggie.
Dr. Strange also had the power to stop the Civil War big whoop. The Sentry like usual ran off because he can't take it. That isn't impressive it's kind of sad. Why bring up something so embarrassing when debating for the character ?
Do you know what happened during the Civil War? They had to find a way to get rid of the Sentry, so they gave him even more mental issues and he left the Earth and spent some time in the space, where he met the Inhumans once again.
Sentry himself acknowledged that he could easily stop the entire Civil War. He acknowledged that he has the power to do so. To erase it from the history books.
Yay @ Mind Erasing of over 6 billion people and even animals. [/B]
In forum battles we argue based off what is likely or on average. Sentry having mental issues is normal. Thanos bests him without it but of course you want to pretend he doesn't have the AOD upgrade because you know he loses. 😂
In forum battles we use characters in their prime and a mentally unstable Sentry is not a Sentry-Prime.
Additionally to that you didn't even try to argue for Thanos, instead of talking about his AOD upgrade.
What if we take his AOD upgrade away? Then he basically has nothing to face the Sentry.[/B]
Thanos bests Sentry with or without it since he can weather his attacks either way. With the upgrade he defeats him easily.
In a different thread (Sentry vs Lord Marvell) I already said that AOD Thanos would at least stalemate the Sentry, but at the same time I could care less, since AOD Thanos doesn't bother me at all. That's his current state and if he loses that upgrade, then he is the plain old Thanos, who losses to the Sentry big time. [/B]
Originally posted by EnzeruH eight use it to fly into his opponent once or twice but doesn't use it the entire time. He's also used it to fly into punches. Thanos puts up shields or just straight tanks it I mean Thor did so. Sentry went all out and couldn't put an elite top tier down he has no shot against Thanos.
Sentry used his speed more then often. The fact is that none of the characters he faced was able to react to it. Everyone took it. If he is serious Thanos is going to take more of it, then you are willing to admit.Already adressed the point with WW Hulk. Sentry wanted to be hurt. He was supporting Hulk, telling him that it was "good" o_O He wanted to be stopped.
No, the Sentry hasn't. Name the foe who is greater than Thanos that Sentry has taken on ? No, it's just a normal showing I mean I'd be embarrassed if the Human Torch bested Thanos though tbh. Glad that never happened. Sentry can't even lift a helicarrier so no I doubt he's even 1/5 as strong as Thanos. Maker, Silver Surfer, power gem Thor aren't weak characters.
Sentry also faced stronger opponents then Thanos. You're probably impressed by Thanos because he pimp-slapped Drax and Professor Hulk. I'm sure that Sentry could duplicate everything Thanos ever did in terms of strenght, since Thanos was mainly facing weak characters, who got many upgrades.
Hell, Thanos was flinching after Thing punched him, while Sentry didn't even move one inch.[/B]
Thanos doesn't need elite top tier feats. I've seen sentry's energy unleashed against WW Hulk. Not to impressed.
Because Thanos does not have the feats to back up at least multiple planetary busting energy projection.
Besides that Sentry's energy projection is even bigger, judging by the Photon fight, since his energy expanded a microverse.Again you're using plot devices to downgrade the Sentry and give Thanos a fighting chance. Weak.
Do you see me only riding on Thanos bad moments? Like where Gamora beat the crap out of him? Or where Thanos trained her to fight Adam Warlock, because he is afraid of Warlock? LOL! Just saying.Sentry > Void > Thanos.[/B]
No, Thanos wins easily. Sentry's mindset is a part of the character this isn't cbr. Thanos didn't take her seriously and only feigned injury. Thanos killed both warlock and gamora before. 😂
Failing to lift a helicarrier and burning out against WW Hulk doesn't mean he's stronger than Thanos. Both were used against WW Hulk and he puttered out. Sentry can't go past force shields easier than Galactus only way is pure force and he isn't that powerful.
Sentry has many advantages.
Strenght, speed, energy projection, the ability to get past force fields, without even bothering, a greater molecule manipulation. And these are just offense-powers.- A weakened Sentry burned out...
- A mentally unstable Sentry was afraid and left the battlefield...
- He asked for death to save everyone...
- Yet the one who K.O.'ed him got defeated by the Sentry 3 panels after...Yes, Sentry > Thanos. [/B]
--Comic specifically stated Sentry went all out.
--Yes, he runs I know but why bring that up quit embarrassing the Sentry.
--What ?
Who did what now ?
Thanos>>>Sentry the guy puttered out against WW Hulk.
You just said prior to the hero can't lose in his own book. I just gave you an example. Are you slow witted ? Do you understand what is happening around you ?
Yes, Blue Marvel got defeated by the Sentry in his own book and that says something. New characters often have insane feats, to make everyone talk about them and buy their comics. It's the way it goes and Blue Marvel was able to punch the Sentry into the orbit. Red Hulk punched Uatu in the face. Wofooo.Sentry > Blue Marvel.[/B]
Sentry barely beat him. Blue Marvel would get stomped by Thanos. The guys who give the Sentry a fight wouldn't even register as nuisances to Thanos.
Sentry was fighting and was getting outclassed. It's funny how suddenly Thanos is trying against Gamora but then here the Sentry isn't trying. Hercules was just all over him. What about the time She Hulk decked him. Who cares about Thor/Hercules they are both more skilled than the Sentry.
Sentry wasn't even trying in that fight. Yet again you were not reading the comic, but enjoying the colors.
Sentry was clearly trying to talk it out, he said that he didn't want to fight. He wasn't even flying fast, since he was able to say an entire sentence, before he reached Hercules who grabbed him.
I'm happy that Hercules grabbed him. Hercules is far more skilled then Sentry. Hercules is more skilled than Thor, since he was also already choking the crap out of Thor, who was not able to break the grip and had to cheat.When Sentry finally had enough, the rammed Hercules into the ground and punched him once. Hercules blocked it with one hand and had to use his other hand for support: "Ugn..."
Then he kicked Sentry into the nuts and ran away. Way to win a fight Hercules.
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Yeah embarrassing for the Sentry I agree.
He slapped them and then faked his own death. That's what happened. He's that good. They aren't threats to him.
Stay at the truth, mate. He slapped Drax and PROFESSOR Hulk in the face and that was not it. They got back up again and punched him around, until he had to use his Death Ray Vision to get rid of Drax. [/B]
Thanos is far smarter than the Sentry. Thanos doesn't have half of himself fighting against himself like the Sentry/Void. It's marvel comics that did this not me, mate.
Judging by your logic Thanos will do everything correctly, while Sentry will only make mistakes. That is being biased towards your favorite character and biased against his opponent, mate.I adressed all of this points and it's getting ridiculous slowly, because you were wrong about them and you're still wrong.
Sentry > Thanos [/B]
Thanos>>>>Void>>Sentry.
Originally posted by EnzeruThe same enemies weren't able to be killed by anyone else. I don't care how desperately you try to ignore the feat it's still crystal clear how impressive it was.
Using canon-fodder-enemies as a feat is not amazing, but pointless.
Mr. Immortal is immortal too, since he keeps returning from the dead. Does that mean that Wolverine is chanceless against him? No, because Wolverine is overall more powerful.
Wolverine is more formidable but Thanos is immune to death, more powerful than a guy who burned himself out against the WW Hulk, and far smarter without any mental weaknesses.
Thanos fought many characters who can't die. They had no choice but the Void has a choice he can choose to not come back. He is likely to fizzle out anyways but he won't have the option since Thanos can kill characters with no choice in the cancerverse. Void is nowhere near up to the challenge of taking on the avatar of death.
And it's not like you have proven that Thanos could override someone like the Sentry, since he basically never faced someone with Sentry's unique abilities.
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The comic made it clear he went all out and unleashed himself and it wasn't enough. What showings am I ignoring ? His best power showings are shredding planets and so can the Surfer yet when he runs into Thanos it's akin to running into a brick wall.
You're only using Sentry's badest energy output showing, which is perfectly explainable by his mental instability, which was pretty high at that particular fight, yet he is so much more then just a city buster.And it's still ... Sentry > Thanos.[/B]
Thanos>>>>Void>>>>>>Sentry, mate.
Yes, kill me means kill me. Yes, the Void can decide to not come back which he has done. He won't have a choice here.
He even says "Kill me!", and decides to never return from the dead. Big difference there.
Did the Molecule Man return yet? I'm not sure. And you still have to adress Thanos "killing" someone like the Sentry with all of his unique power. You won't be able to. [/B]
Thanos kills unkillables and is immune to death. Sentry isn't. 😂
There you go admit defeat. It feels so good.The AOD upgrade is the only thing which could and probably even would turn this fight into Thanos' favor, but then again, judging by the forum fights, AOD Thanos wins actually every single battle, just like no one can defeat classic Juggernaut, because of his invulnerability. No biggie.
Sentry's powers have never been exhausted, while he was in his prime. While being in his prime, he was causing damage to a microverse and in the next scan you saw Photon breaking out and BFR'ing the Sentry by teleporting him into a second microverse.
What happened? Did Sentry started destroying the entire microverse and forced Photon to escape and BFR Sentry, because Photon didn't have any other chance but to BFR his opponent? Wooooo.Sentry wins. [/B]
Sentry's powers were exhausted against the WW Hulk. Should I go look for the Pak interview which would cause you irreparable damage and mental anguish. Please say the word and I will look for ir.
Photon beat him through bfr. That's a forum win.
Thanos wins you admitted it just a little earlier.
Thanos, 10/10.
