Thanos vs. Sentry/Void (all out)

I'm not getting into this, but all this mention of how tough and powerful Thor was with the power gem and making it to look like a good feat for Thanos is laughable. Thanos won by shooting him with a gun for gods sake. That fight was not going to end well for Thanos if they kept slugging it out. Same with the WWH story. Ok, thats great that Bob released all of his energy on the Hulk and burned the Hulk and himself out. If Bob doesnt go to the fight with those exact intentions and keeps that energy while using speed and fighting to actually win, he busts the Hulks ass.

As for who wins, i'm going to lean towards Thanos because he's too damn smart, but I truly dont think we've ever seen the Void at his best. Take Bob out of the equation completely and the 'What If' is probably closer to reality than the actual story itself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Someone like Thor who isn't super fast either reacted and batted him away. Weaker characters Sentry can take apart with a speedy attack but no one Thor level or above so there went your point. Shame.

Thor didn't do crap. Thor got speedblitzed in the mid-air and was not able to react. That happened to Balder and Ares too.
Thor was just lucky that he could BFR Sentry with a Mjolnir smack. After Sentry returned Thor was doomed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All of these characters pretty much took on the Sentry. Thanos doesn't need to be faster he has the powerset and skill to tag characters in Sentry's speed range. Examples are the Silver Surfer and Fallen One. Thaos is fast enough and smart enough to negate the speed advantage.

All off these characters were few of Marvel's top dogs, yet Sentry took them all an and always had the advantage, even when he was in a weak mental state and therefore weaker then usually.

Thanos does not have the skill, nor the power set to deal with uber-fast characters. When Silver Surfer doesn't use his speed in a fight, then it's PIS, to give the opponent a fighting chance. When Sentry doesn't use his speed in combat, then it's also for the opponent to have a fighting chance.

Thanos' fight against Captain Marvel was written propperly, where Captain Marvel was attacking him, while Thanos was not able to react. It was Captain Marvel who made the mistake to fly to low and to slow and THEN Thanos was able to grab him. Yeah, very skilly Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry's speed is greater than Thanos but then again this isn't a race, kid. Thanos' intelligence>>>>>>Sentry's intelligence.

Never said it would be a race, but yeah - In that department Sentry would win too, of course.
Besides that, Sentry does not only have fast traveling speed. He can move at high speeds, where Thanos can't hold up anymore and in forum fights, we use the characters to their full extent and skip PIS, so Sentry wouldn't simply try to brawl it out with Thanos (and he would win even in that deparment), but he would use his speed and profit from it, since it would give him the ability to dodge Thanos' attacks and it would grant Sentry's attacks even more impact. With speed comes the impact and with impact comes the damage.

And yes, Thanos is smarter then the Sentry. Bill Gates is also smarter than me, but I would be able to punch him in the face, because I'm young, fast and strong and he is just an old geezer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We've seen him want to die and actually ask for death from his foes. The Void and the Sentry are also directly opposed to each other. One is pure evil and malice while the other is pure heroism and goodness. Do you even know who the Sentry is?

Do you know who the Sentry is? OH, WHO AM I ASKING? WHO AM I ASKING? Of course you don't know it and you're proving it over and over again.

Sentry asked the Avengers to kill him, while he was restraining the Void. He asked it to save the mankind. That is actually very noble, my friend. Would you give up the power of God to save everyone? Guess not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has faced far bigger threats than the Sentry. Hell, the Sentry burned himself out against the WW Hulk. The Sentry will be plain out of his league here if his powers burned out against an upper tier Hulk. Thanos ends his life/his energy. It's stated on panel the Sentry can be killed and it's stated on panel Thanos can cause permanent death. I win.

Thanos never faced someone as fast, as strong, as versatile and as powerful as the Sentry. Well of course, Thanos faced Galactus, but he lost that battle.

Do you place Sentry on the same level as Silver Surfer or what? Is that your reasoning for his ultimate defeat? Sentry is above Silver Surfer, face it, even though Silver Surfer has more feats.
It does not matter, because Sentry was the more powerful character, when it came to terms of raw power. Silver Surfer NEVER overpowered Doctor Doom, while Sentry did it 4 times, without even flinching.

Sentry never burned himself out in the fight with WW Hulk, but I already adressed that point and I won't do it again, because it seems to be too complicated for you. I don't have the wish to confuse you any further.

What was stated on panel, was that Sentry can't die, if he doesn't wish to. Why should he wish to die in the fight with Thanos?
Sentry had the wish to die, when it came to saving the entire world. Once again, that is noble and not a sign of weakness.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Void is a lot more formidable than the Sentry. he doesn't hold back and isn't weighed down by guilt.

And that's also the reason why the Void constantly lost to Sentry, right?
Did you actually read the Sentry comics in the past? Sentry defeated the Void nearly every single time, when he was mentally stable.

Sentry was so powerful there, that Void had to manifest himself as a separate entity. Void had his awesome power level, since he was tossing around characters like Savage Hulk, classic Thor and hell even classic Strange, since it was portrayed in the first Sentry mini, that Reed Richards didn't exactly know Dr. Strange (classic times) and then they searched together a way to get rid of the Void, while it was Sentry who was stalemating or defeating him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree the Void hasn't ever on panel faced anyone near Thanos level and beaten him. Thanos has taken down power gem wielding Thor who ran rough shot over the Infinity Watch, the Surfer, and Classic Strange.

Wow, great. Thanos also had the Infinity Gauntlet when he hit Doctor Doom with his wrath, yet Doctor Doom stood up, because his tech protected him.
Doctor Doom's tech couldn't protect him when he faced Sentry and it's not like it happened only once.

Sentry > Thor, that should be obvious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos takes down team wreckers with minimal ease. The Void exerts himself against far less than Thanos. No, the Void isn't anywhere near Thanos' league. Thanos brings down universes The Void failed to even take down asgard's forces. It's not even close. Thanos gets into battles with Celestials and Galactus while the Sentry's big threat is WW Hulk or that time he freaked out and fled against the Skrulls. 😂

No, Thanos get's beaten up by Professor Hulk and Drax, as well Thor and Thing, while Sentry doesn't even flinch, when they attack him.

Thanos brings universes down, when he wields the power of the Infinity Gauntlet. Are you now giving Thanos the Infinity Gauntlet to have a fighting chance in this battle?

Void destroyed Asgard by simply flying through it. Do you honestly think that Thanos can do something like that?
Void was also one-shotting everyone around him, without taking them seriously. He was one-shotting gods. Wake me up on the day where Thanos could actually do something like that to Loki.

For the fifth time... They had to depower the Sentry for the WW Hulk #5 fight. Sentry only brawled it out and didn't bother to use the variety of his other powers to take the Hulk down. If I was Sentry during that fight, WW Hulk would have been history after 10 seconds.
WW Hulk #5 is actually a damn low showing for Sentry, since he was able to dish far more devastating damage in the past and after the WW Hulk fight. The only reason he was struggeling there was because of his illness. Don't you understand that his power level scales with his mental stability?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So it is his greatest weakness. The mind is the most dangerous thing we possess and it's his big flaw. 😂
Superman can be beaten by other means than k-nite. Void can be beaten in other ways than simply screwing with his head which has happened. Thanos kills him and delivers permanent death.

Sentry's powers are only limited by his mind. Yes, it is the most dangerous thing we possess and the Sentry is the perfect example for it.

No one can mess with Void's mind. Emma Frost tried it and had to spend the next days in her crystal form to avoid a complete takeover by the Void.
Strange and Xavier were afraid of the Void. When Noh-Varr entered Sentry's mind, he had to instantly leave again, because of the Void.
If Thanos even tries to mess with Sentry's mind, then he is history, because he releases the Void and then it's the same story over again and he gets humiliated.

Void can attack with powerful empathy. That empathy was enough to overpower Savage Hulk, who should be immune to something like that, because of his brute nature. The Void confronted him with all the miserable stuff in his life and Hulk suffered a mental breakdown.

What makes you think that Thanos would be able to overcome something like that, if the Void shows him Death spending some high quality time with Deadpool? Thanos would start crying and run away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sentry isn't always in a better mental state. The guy had to be coaxed into taking on WW Hulk. He was afraid to leave his home the guy is all over the map. Even when he did leave and poured into the WW Hulk it wasn't enough.

Ah, I think now you're starting to understand.
Do you know what fear is like? Do you know how the first day on a new school was always like? You were excited, yet a little bit afraid! Take that and multiply it with 100 and then you have how a phobia feels like.

Your body feels weak, your mental state is all messy. Sentry has a phobia too and it was intense during the WW Hulk arc. It should be obvious that he is not in his prime during that time.
When he is in his prime, he takes Hulk's best shots without even flinching.
And while a mental instability is a part of the character, we should still not concentrate all too much onto it, because that's what you're now doing. You're taking Sentry's fight with WW Hulk, where Sentry was mentally unstable and that's the way you judge the character.
You ignore the fact that there were times before and after, where he was clear minded and where he was owning everything.

He would also own Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's easy to put him in a weak mental state and besides that he's been defeated just the same anyways. Either way you look at it I win. Yes, he was in a weak mental state prior to the fight but cut loose on the Hulk. The comic made it plain as day according to this writer Sentry went all out like he's never done before. He wasn't portrayed as being less powerful just not powerful enough to get the job done. Bob lost because he was ko'd. That isn't a stalemate. 😂

You do know that it was WW Hulk's book right? And that he was supposed to win in that fight, right?
They had to place the story correctly, so that he would be able to own everyone. Hell he even defeated Zom Strange by brawling it out, even though Strange would have been able to solo Hulk, especially if powered by Zom. Pak knew it and he had to find a different way to get past it.
The same happened during Hulk's fight with the X-Men. Come on, Darwin teleporting away? -__-

The same thing happened with the Hulk VS Sentry fight. Pak depowered the Sentry for this particular fight, so that the Hulk would be able to take him on.
He also made the Sentry brawl it out and release energy / losing the control over it. Sentry is a hero ... why should go out without a reason and start destroying the city, taking the home of all the people? It's because he was mentally unstable and if that's the case he does not have that much power under his dissposal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Professor Hulk was easily overpowered. Sentry has a calming effect on him that's just situational. Sentry burning out his powers against a high end Hulk is flat out pathetic. Thanos goes runs with cube beings while the Sentry can't even put down the WW Hulk.

Professor Hulk was able to punch Thanos around :-X Something like that would never happen to the Sentry, who was not flinching when Savage Hulk threw the train onto him. Then Sentry used his powers to calm the Hulk down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're in denial and not very good at debating. I feel bad for you.

You're taking the words out of my mouth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's easy to put him in a weak mental state especially if you can weather the storm from him. It's called story telling. There is no explanation why it took him as long as it did just as there is no mention he's weaker in the story. They do mention he's never released so much of his power before and that's why he burns himself out. We puttered out. Pak admits it in an interview he wasn't weak by any means. It's just you making excuses.

Do you want to know something funny? I know more about the Sentry then Pak knows. I know more about the Sentry, then you do.

And no, It's not me making excuses, since Sentry is not limited to a city buster, but it looks like you're failing to see it. Sentry is destroying multiple planets, while vastly holding back. It's that simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Inconsistency in comics things don't always gel together. We see Flash struggle to hit lightspeed in one arc then go far beyond it easily in another. Blue Marvel was fighting other characters that's why he didn't react. He was taken by surprise. You're really bad at this.

No, Blue Marvel was pushing other characters around and the last action he did was punching Iron man to the ground. During that, Sentry speedblitzed him into the ground from above. During one punch, Sentry traveled from the space, to the Earth and speedblitzed him. Blue Marvel was not able to react to that, just the way Thor was not able to react to the speedblitz in die midair, where Sentry took him away from Osborn.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Stopped or beat the same meaning. Yes, sentry lost control and had to be stopped. Bruce did so. Thanos woulda killed him and easily. Lucky he ran into Bruce Banner.

Sentry > Hulk
Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the guy twists showings around left and right. Yes, he was afraid of losing his control over his power as the Sentry. He usually is. It's a staple in the character not just this arc. You seem quite ignorant though when it comes to the Sentry so I can't get mad at you. Sentry was mentally unstable then but then again he is a lot of the time you can't just wish that part of his character away.

The difference is ... During WW Hulk Sentry was afraid he would lose the control over his powers and he did lose the control over them, starting leveling city blocks, half of the city.
In a different isntance, he was afraid of the damage he could do to the planet, when he faced Photon. Photon teleported them into a microverse, Sentry cut loose and started destroying planets, while still holding back.

The point is ... We KNOW that he was mentally unstable during WW Hulk, and we DON'T KNOW about his stability during the Photon fight. He looked a lot more confident though.

The problem is that you're only riding on Sentry's showings, where he was in a weak state, yet you ignore every single one of his high showings. You're doing so to give Thanos a fighting chance.
Yet when it comes to forum fights, we don't simply downgrade a character, so that the other one would have a chance. We use characters, when they're at their peak and during WW Hulk Sentry was not at his peak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why would he need one in a fight ? At least he never struggled with lifting a helicarrier. 🙂

Good thing that lifting the Helicarrier is not Sentry's only showing, right? 🙂

You know, other showings like where he was forcing Hercules to use strenght against him, or when he was lifting a giant cruise ship, which was full of water, or where he was containing an escaping Cosmic Cube.

Either you can say that Sentry was containing the escaping energy of the Cosmic Cube, or that he was holding the escaping Cosmic Cube physically. Both showings are great, since you should know how much energy a Cosmic Cube has, and an escaping Cosmic Cube sank an entire island once, which weighs a lot more then a Helicarrier.

Yet again you fail miserably to prove something, don't you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Professor Hulk is Hulk. They don't call him Professor Hulk in comics they call him Hulk.

LOL!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry didn't lack power he lacked the power to finish the Hulk. He poured it into him it just didn't put him out. Whoops.

1.Collateral damage isn't indicative of power level. Just because Odin doesn't destroy a galaxy that doesn't mean he is holding back either. Sentry poured the bulk of his power into the Hulk he just took it.

2.Ok.........I never said he was completely incompetent but the Collective was just an impressive showing that's it. Nowhere near as impressive as Thanos' best showings.

1. Already adressed that over and over again. In my last responses, in my responses in other threads and even in this posts.

2. Sentry was in a weak mental state when he was facing the Collective and stalemating him for a while. He was the one who was in disadvantage, since additionally to that the Collective was inexperienced with his powers, but yet he was easily able to kill Alpha Flight and overpower Binary and yet an unstable Sentry was able to take him on. He got BFR'd, he continued shortly after and continued fighting.

Imagine what a stable Sentry does to Collective. HE DESTROYS HIM, NYEHEHEHEHE.

Originally posted by quanchi112
3.Yes, he can destroy planets but so can Terrax. Not particularly impressive when considering other elite top tiers. LOL.

Sentry was bored while he dodged Terrax' attacks, stopped his attack, broke his hand and broke Terrax' cosmic axe. No one ever overpowered Terrax that easily.

How many other elite top tiers do you know who destroy multiple planets, while holding back? Gladiator is supposed to be an elite top tier and he needed few full powered strikes to destroy a planet.
World Breaker Hulk's and empowered Red She-Hulk's coalision destroyed one planet.

Sentry stands above all of these people, he also stands above Thanos, face it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep ignoring it but it's still canon.
Yes, but the Sentry can't beat Thanos. He can't keep him down and he's mentally weak. Thanos isn't. Thanos can also cause permanent death.

Sentry can beat Thanos and he would. Sentry is only mentally weak, if you wish him to be for this particular fight and that's your only wish, since otherwise Thanos doesn't stand a chance. Sentry was not always mentally unstable. He had sanity showings all over the place and therefore we use his prime showings and not his low showings to judge his power level, because nearly all of his low showings were there for the sake of the plot. To give the other characters a chance.

AOD Thanos can cause permanent death and it's still a debate in this thread if he could do it to the Sentry too. You can't prove that he can, because he never did it to someone like the Sentry, so it's a draw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos took it easy on the opposition. He wasn't worried for a moment. You seem to not comprehend the comics you debate about.
The Sentry is mentally unstable. Even in siege it came out and he demanded death. Trying to distance yourself from a character who has always been portrayed as crazy is pitiful.

You're so god damn ...
Already adressed these points over and over again, yet you're ignoring them on a regular basis.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Thanos>Void ( the guy wants death after a long battle)
Thanos >Sentry ( burned out by the WW Hulk, overload
ed by the Human Torch, chased off by Skrulls, outmaneuvered by Herc, etc.

Void > Thanos (since it was Robert who was restraining the Void and wishing to be killed to save everyone on the planet)
Sentry > Thanos (since Thanos would not be able to deal with Sentry's speed, strenght, energy output which we saw in the past, when he was in a better condition and not depowered for the sake of the plot)

Sentry > Human Torch (pathetic plot device, since Sentry is able to solo Hammond including all of the other bafoons)
Sentry > evey single Skrull besides Kubik
Sentry > Hercules in terms of everything besides the skill, since Hercules is even more skilled then Thor

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor did enough. One on one Thor doesn't have a chance because he can't weather his attacks but Thanos can. /thread.

Thanos can't do crap. He lacks the strenght and speed to compete with the Sentry, two of the most important attributes, when it comes to a battle. Additionally to that we're talking about comic book characters right now who have so much more under their dispossal and that goes especially for the Sentry with his versatility.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All powerful is hyperbole just as 1 million exploding suns but fans like yourself exaggerate and misrepresent this as 100 percent proof.

The potential in matter manipulation is not hyperbole.
Loki saw that he was not able to do crap to the Void, that his brother was not able to do crap to the Void. That no one on the battlefield was able to do crap to the Void, who was one-shotting everyone. Thanos can't do it as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The heroes lost the upgrade and still managed to harm and later through his own desire to defeat the Void.
Thanos can survive anything he's immune to death. The guy tanked a cc blast he's that durable.

No one besides Thor was able to harm the Void after they lost the upgrade, but at that point the Void was already badly harmed and Thor was the most powerful hero on the battlefield.
He then teleported the Void away and Iron Man dropped the Helicarrier onto him, which caused a nuke-like explosion, which reverted Void back to Robert, who then asked to be killed, while he was restraining the Void, since even when he started turning back to the Void, he was still in control, because "the Void" was screaming: "KILL ME!"

Bendis also said that the heroes were able to defeat the Void, because Robert allowed it to. Bendis simply didn't want to let someone like Spider-Woman say: "Oh boy, if he didn't allow us to defeat him, then we would never have been able to kill him".

And that was the right decision, because it would have been disrespectful to everyone on the battlefield.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Many characters hurt the Void. Thor destroyed his entire body without an amp and he didn't come back because he wanted death.

NO ONE EVER HARMED THE VOID, BESIDES THE SENTRY.

Sentry was always the one who was able to harm and overpower him physically. Do you actually understand that?
The only, only, only, only other instance where someone actually managed to harm the Void was during the Siege, where all the heroes gained a power upgrade, which put him so much above their regular power level.

If you think about that, or at least try to, then you know where Sentry stands with his damage output, when he is mentally stable, since when he is mentally stable, the Void can't take over and has to manifest himself as a separate entity.
And then he gets attacked by the Sentry, pierced and tossed into the sun, because Sentry is that awesome.

Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor destroyed his entire body. WW Hulk burned out the Sentry. Blue Marvel stunned him for a moment or so. Human Torch defeated him yet your conclusion is Thanos a character considerably more powerful than these guys can't. Biased.

1. Thor had the permission to do something like that. Many people were even thinking that Thor was the only one who would have been able to do something like that and everyone was always saying that Robert asked Thor to kill him, yet Robert was looking into the ground and asked the Avengers to kill him. Thor was the one with the biggest ego and said: "No."

2. WW Hulk was in disadvantage against the Sentry. WW Hulk is one of the most powerful Hulk versions, while Sentry was in a weak condition. Do the math.

3. Human Torch BFR'd the Sentry with an incredibly stupid plot device, since Sentry was more then once near the sun and was doing just fine.

Thanos is more powerful then these guys, but so is the Sentry and in the end Sentry would pwn in a logical fight, where he would use his powers propperly, while Thanos would not be able to compete with the strenght and the speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The other characters couldn't kill them. Just because they aren't pivotal characters that doesn't undermine the sheer power of the feat. Thanos also dominated Lord Mar-vell physically. The guy showed hos powerful he is and Mar-vell wasn't fodder. Do you ever make sense ?

I always make sense.

How many strenght feats did Lord Mar-Vell have? How many feats did Lord Mar-Vell have overall? It's not like the X-Vell family always was over the top in terms of the strenght :-7
And you fail to forget what happened afterwards. I remember Thanos lying on a desk, all strapped with Lord Mar-Vell standing above him.

Besides that there is already a "Lord Marvell vs Sentry" thread, where I'm still waiting for Nihilist to answer to it, as well to answer my posts on the "Thanos VS Sentry" debate, where Sentry obviously wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Bob Reynolds stated kill me. That to me doesn't say he's beyond life since he used the words kill me. 😂 Thor killed him and he didn't come back because he didn't want to. Thanos prevents his return as avatar of death. On panel.

2.So ? Thanos proved on panel he can cause permanent death as death's avatar. Thanos has the power to destroy the Void since Thor does. Thor can't prevent his return but Thanos can. Bob also asked for death due to his mental weakness flaring up like it has 60 percent of the time. 😂

Thanos is awesome. I am glad you admitted it.

Robert Reynolds can be killed, but the thing is that he decides to simply return, by manifesting from his very own point of existence in the regular world. Thanos killed a bunch of people in a universe without death. There is a difference and it's also a debate in this thread. It is a difference if someone returns over and over again from the dead and if someone can't kill in the first place, because the universe doesn't know something like the death.

And once again: Thanos himself said that even immortality has it's limit after he asked himself if Champion could surive a fall from the orbit...

And yes, Thanos is awesome. I know more about him, then you know about the Sentry. Let me tell you about my collection of comics, where Thanos appears:
Thanos Quest, Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Infinity Crusade, Thanos: Infinity Abyss, Marvel: The End, Thanos, The Thanos Imperative ...

How many Sentry comics do you have? Probably not many, therefore your lack of knowledge.

[/b][/quote]I M not your mate I am your father. You tried to twist plenty of times the truth or the stories so what's one more time.[/b][/quote]

You have some serious problems, MATE.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor can't beat the Void because he can't weather his attacks. Thor lost his amp and is powerful enough to destroy his body which he did. Void wasn't weakened he as Bob wanted death. Mental weakness. Don't worry Thanos will give him the cure for what ails him.

Thor was not powerful enough, Thor was granted the opportunity to kill Robert, who then decided to never return. It's that simple.

It's not a mental weakness, it's called heroism.

Thanos will have more problems, then you already have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The difference is Thanos is the adult and Senytry is the 10 year old kid here. One on one Sentry doesn't have a chance.

Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
a. The heroes didn't weaken the Void Bob showed up and wanted death.
b. Thor wasn't powerful enough to keep him dead but was to destroy his body.
c. Yes, Void did kill Loki. Big whoop.
d.Yes, his mental weakness showed up. Unlucky for him. Thanos doesn't have a mental weakness like the Sentry has weighing him down.

a) Doesn't make any sence, so I'm going to skip it ...
b) Thor was allowed to deal the killing blow to an already weakened Void ...
c) Yes, Loki like in Loki, the elite god, the elite comic book character, who got one-shotted through the Norn-stones ...
d) The only instance with the mental weakness was that Void was able to take completely over in the first place. It's heroism which appeared after Void vanished few seconds, where Robert decided to end it all ...

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to prove anything. I proved Thanos is. You have no proof Void is. Void asked for death and got it. Thanos comes back and can't die despite wanting it or not. Thanos can cause permanent death to immortals. I proved that you just cried and pouted while I laughed and pointed at you.

Robert asked for the kill, and decided to stay away. You're still talking about Thanos' AOD upgrade, basically the only thing which turns this battle into a stalemate, since no one the fighters would be able to kill each other.

Thanos never killed someone like the Sentry permanently.

Take away that finger and stick it up somewhere else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, the Void has the direct opposition in him which can flare up and want his own death. It's a mental weakness he can't get around. He couldn't even kill Bob's wife he needed someone else to do it because he can't overcome himself. He's a character pitted against himself and it's a huge weakness.

That's the complexity you fail to understand. It was Void who wanted Osborn to get rid of Lindy, yet it was Sentry, who was screaming under Void's possession and even turning into the Void, threatening Bullseye, after Lindy disappeared.
The Sentry is the Void and the Void is the Sentry. It's brilliant.

And it was Sentry's good side who always restrained the Void from killing Lindy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Sentry also has been bested and defeated through power. You want to ignore it all and pretend he was weaker without proof. Your entire argument is based off speculation whereas I post scans of what I claim. I'm awesome you aren't. No biggie.

Oh then go ahead and post scans o_O I can gladly destroy you with the usage of scans too. Right now your arguments are based on lowballing the Sentry, while I'm using his true power level to argue for him. There is not even one speculation in my words.
And I guess you're only big, and nothing else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dr. Strange also had the power to stop the Civil War big whoop. The Sentry like usual ran off because he can't take it. That isn't impressive it's kind of sad. Why bring up something so embarrassing when debating for the character?[b]

You do know that they also got rid of Dr. Strange during the Civil War, right? There is no difference. They exploited Sentry's mental issues to get rid of him, no biggie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]In forum battles we argue based off what is likely or on average. Sentry having mental issues is normal. Thanos bests him without it but of course you want to pretend he doesn't have the AOD upgrade because you know he loses. 😂
Thanos bests Sentry with or without it since he can weather his attacks either way. With the upgrade he defeats him easily.

Sentry wins! Adressed all of these points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Height use it to fly into his opponent once or twice but doesn't use it the entire time. He's also used it to fly into punches. Thanos puts up shields or just straight tanks it I mean Thor did so. Sentry went all out and couldn't put an elite top tier down he has no shot against Thanos.

LOL!
Sentry can move faster then Thanos can react. It has been proved in Thanos fights with Captain Marvel who is probably slower then Sentry.

And what are Thanos force fields going to do? Doctor Dooms defensive tech was enough to protect him from a blast of the Infinity Gauntlet, yet it was not enough to hold the Sentry off.
Doctor Doom's shields were at 100% of their capacity, Sentry went through them and ripped apart Doom's armor. Sentry even walked a second time through his force fields and outmuscled Doom who was wielding the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak.
Sentry even impressed Reed Richards by simply going through his stasis field.
What makes you think that Thanos force fields, which have been shattered before are going to hold off the Sentry?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the Sentry hasn't. Name the foe who is greater than Thanos that Sentry has taken on ? No, it's just a normal showing I mean I'd be embarrassed if the Human Torch bested Thanos though tbh. Glad that never happened. Sentry can't even lift a helicarrier so no I doubt he's even 1/5 as strong as Thanos. Maker, Silver Surfer, power gem Thor aren't weak characters.

Once again you're using Sentry's bad showings, which aren't even bad showings, because they were terrible, terrible plot-devices, to remove him as fast as possible from the battlefield and you're overhyping the named Thanos' showings, but I also adressed these points before, or they have been adressed in the thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos doesn't need elite top tier feats. I've seen sentry's energy unleashed against WW Hulk. Not to impressed.

You've seen an unstable and therefore weak Sentry taking on one of the most powerful Hulk versions so far, having the upper hand in the entire battle and stopping WW Hulk, and you're not impressed?

Thor had more problems with weaker versions of the Hulk in the past, while a stable Sentry wasn't even flinching when Hulk was attacking him.

Additionally to that one of the weakest Hulk versions, the Professor Hulk was pushing Thanos around and punching him against walls, into walls and so on.

If I were you I would be impressed, but that would require not to be biased towards Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Thanos wins easily. Sentry's mindset is a part of the character this isn't cbr. Thanos didn't take her seriously and only feigned injury. Thanos killed both warlock and gamora before.😂

Sentry wins.
His mindset is a part of his entire character yes, but Sentry has bad days and he has good days. When he has bad days, he still stalemates WW Hulk and the Collective and when he has good days, he shredds multiple planets apart, while still holding back.

You're doing the mistake that you're only talking about Sentry's bad days, depowering him personally for this particular fight, so that Thanos could win it and that sir is uber pathetic.

Thanos was afraid of Warlock and he trained Gamora to take on Warlock. Thanos also got tossed around by Gamora.

PS: Sentry wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Failing to lift a helicarrier and burning out against WW Hulk doesn't mean he's stronger than Thanos. Both were used against WW Hulk and he puttered out. Sentry can't go past force shields easier than Galactus only way is pure force and he isn't that powerful.

Sentry is that powerful.
Two characters said that Sentry stalemated Galactus, while Thanos begged Galactus to spare his life.

Sentry > Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
--Comic specifically stated Sentry went all out.
--Yes, he runs I know but why bring that up quit embarrassing the Sentry.
--What ?
Who did what now ?

-- Comics also stated that Sentry was in a weak mental condition, unable to control the amount of his power, he was wielding during that time period and that amount of power was weak.
-- Read comics.
-- Read comics.
-- Read comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos>>>Sentry the guy puttered out against WW Hulk.

Sentry >>>>> Thanos, the guy who needs to teleport away from an exploding planet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just said prior to the hero can't lose in his own book. I just gave you an example. Are you slow witted ? Do you understand what is happening around you ?

You're that old and still that behaviour? I pity you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry barely beat him. Blue Marvel would get stomped by Thanos. The guys who give the Sentry a fight wouldn't even register as nuisances to Thanos.

Blue Marvel got defeated by the Sentry in his own book. That actually shows you that even the creators of the character see his opponent as superior.

Sentry > Blue Marvel
Sentry > Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry was fighting and was getting outclassed. It's funny how suddenly Thanos is trying against Gamora but then here the Sentry isn't trying. Hercules was just all over him. What about the time She Hulk decked him. Who cares about Thor/Hercules they are both more skilled than the Sentry.

Read the comics, dude, read the freakin' comics.

Sentry was trying to talk it out, there was not even one instance where he actually tried to take Hercules out seriously. Hercules blocked Sentry's punch, had to support his arm to hold him, kicked him in the nuts and ran away.

She-Hulk decked Sentry..? Damn, you're so weird, it's not even funny anymore. Sentry BFR'd She-Hulk by tossing her through the city, she returned with a taxi and punched him from behind down, while he was giving an interview. He stood up, was taking her punches, without even bothering, talking to her, punched her away and BFR'd her again.

Thor and Hercules are indeed more skilled then Sentry, but that's about it. Sentry prevails in everything else.
In "What If? Secret Invasion" (yes, I know it's a what If) Sentry was fighting Thor and outpowering him with his speed, since he hit Thor faaar more often. Thor had to attack him from behind, while Sentry was busy with something else. He grabbed him and broke his neck, but told him, that he could have been the best of them all.

But even in canon comics: Sentry > Thor.
Where Thor gets busted by Ymir demons, Sentry explodes through them with his one million exploding suns, while Spider-Man swings Thor to safety.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He slapped them and then faked his own death. That's what happened. He's that good. They aren't threats to him.

They stood up and were perfectly fine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is far smarter than the Sentry. Thanos doesn't have half of himself fighting against himself like the Sentry/Void. It's marvel comics that did this not me, mate.
You lost this debate in one post but here you are once again.

Thanos>>>>Void>>Sentry.

Thanos is smarter then the Sentry, but he will not be able to profit from his intelligence, because he is weaker and slower then the Sentry, also less versatile and his energy output is also lower.

Sentry > Void > Thanos, it's all in the comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The same enemies weren't able to be killed by anyone else. I don't care how desperately you try to ignore the feat it's still crystal clear how impressive it was.

Yes, because they were in an universe without death. Should be kinda logical, that no one can kill them there, besides the guy who comes with Death herself and brings the aspect of Death into that particular universe when he uses his powers o_O

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolverine is more formidable but Thanos is immune to death, more powerful than a guy who burned himself out against the WW Hulk, and far smarter without any mental weaknesses.

You're getting pesky and even more ridiculous with that WW Hulk bullcrap.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos fought many characters who can't die. They had no choice but the Void has a choice he can choose to not come back. He is likely to fizzle out anyways but he won't have the option since Thanos can kill characters with no choice in the cancerverse. Void is nowhere near up to the challenge of taking on the avatar of death.

1. Yes, Thanos was fighting Champion and asked himself if the fall from the orbit would kill Champion, because even immortality has it's limits. That were Thanos' words.

2. It's a perfectly understandable logic, that people from Cancerverse don't have the choice to die, because the concept of death does not exist in that universe. Robert Reynolds returns from the death, because he chooses to. He is more then just immortal, he is omnipotent. People from the Cancerverse are not omnipotent, because they can't die. Teleport these people into the regular Marvel universe. Will they be able to die? Probably yes, because death exists in that universe.

3. Avatar Of Death is the only thing which could turn this fight in Thanos' favour. Besides that he has so many disadvantages. Without the AOD upgrade he is lost.

If we go by current versions, then there wouldn't even be a fight, since Sentry is supposed to be dead, even though he is not, since we never saw him returning during Chaos War, where the Chaos King was resurrecting everyone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The comic made it clear he went all out and unleashed himself and it wasn't enough. What showings am I ignoring ? His best power showings are shredding planets and so can the Surfer yet when he runs into Thanos it's akin to running into a brick wall.

His best showings are destroying planets, while holding back, while Captain America was in the microverse. When Photon teleported Captain America away, Sentry's energies escalated and surpassed the microverse. They were visible in the real world, while he was in a microverse, which is beyond the sub-atomic level.

Silver Surfer does not have that much power and neither has Thanos. And no: "The very universe screams." doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos>>>>Void>>>>>>Sentry, mate.

I already told you how many Thanos comics I have, while you probably don't have even one single comic with Sentry in it. Your Sentry knowledge comes from other discussions, when he was a often used character in forum battles and where Sentry haters posted his "low" showings to downgrade him and totally ignored everything awesome he has ever done and that's what you're basically doing right now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, kill me means kill me. Yes, the Void can decide to not come back which he has done. He won't have a choice here.
Thanos kills unkillables and is immune to death. Sentry isn't. 😂

Yet again you're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Void himself said that it's not up to him if he can return from the dead or not. It is Robert Reynolds decision, since he is the one with the power, while Void is simply an aspect of his personality.

Robert always has the choice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry's powers were exhausted against the WW Hulk. Should I go look for the Pak interview which would cause you irreparable damage and mental anguish. Please say the word and I will look for it.

Do what you want, I can negatve everything you bring in, because you don't have a clue.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Photon beat him through bfr. That's a forum win.

The very same Photon who left the microverse after we saw Sentry's energy growing, growing and even outgrowing the microverse.
Photon probably never had a different chance but to BFR Sentry and even there he already knew that Sentry would find a way out.

Sentry can teleport at will, while Thanos has to use tech to teleport. He even has to say it. I'm pretty sure that Sentry can act faster then Thanos can speak, so Thanos is the one who will be BFR'd first, so don't even bring the BFR aspect into the debate.

Besides that Sentry has so many other advantages, while Thanos only advantage is his intellect / mind and even for that he needs time, which he would not have in this one, since Sentry is that fast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins you admitted it just a little earlier.
Thanos, 10/10.

I said so often, that Sentry wins o_O

Oh yeah and something else: Sentry wins.
Do you want to know a secret? Sentry wins.
1 + 1 = Sentry wins.

^ Enzeru has finally lost it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^ Enzeru has finally lost it.

This. It's not going to matter to quanchi tho because Thanos is more intelligent/better prep guy/owned all of Marvel/.....you get the picture. 😮‍💨

[QUOTE=13656374]Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Kindly leave before things become uncomfortable for you.

Are you a mod now? You should have sent out an invite list to those people who you deemed worthy enough to comment on your newest Thanos wanking thread with attached talking points, i.e. Thanos is unkillable and can kill unkillable beings, blah, blah!
And btw, the only thing that would make me uncomfortable is being between you and your life-sized, custom made, Thanos Real Doll, with posable joints and digital voice provided by Michael Dorn. Holds 30% more semen than competitors models! Buy it today and receive free shipping!
I still stick by Sentry in an all out battle. His handling of MM is the tipping point for me.

Originally posted by Badabing
Guys, be civil or use the ignore. Trolling and bashing is not alowed.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Thanos' power output is not as devastating as Sentry's.
Show me a scan, where he destroys multiple worlds, while holding back.
Show me a scan, where he cuts loose, while being in the microverse and releases so much energy that it's visible in the real world.

You will not be able to do that, without bringing in the Infinity Gauntlet.
And don't even try to come up with the "and the very universe screams"-instance, since that basically doesn't say shit.

If you still insist on it, then it's even more of a valid feat to bring in Sentry's Galactus stalemate, which was once stated by Spider-Man and also by X-Man, who acknowledged too that he was fighting alongside Sentry against Galactus.

Galactus > Thanos by a laaaaaaaarge margin.
Sentry > Thanos.

Who besides the Sentry ever managed to do something to the Void? Let me answer that one for you. No one.

Void was regulary one-shotting simply everyone on the battlefield, until Loki came up with the Norn-stones and empowered all the heroes greatly.
If Captain America's power upgrade was that high, that he was able to harm the Void, then imagine how high Thor's power level in the end was, before he lost the upgrade.

And besides all that it was still not enough to take down the Void. Only Robert was able to restrain and defeat him.

This is what this board fails to understand.

It's a fact to everyone who was actually reading Sentry comics, that he is weaker, when he is in a weak mental state. It's a fact. He was never doing badly, simply because he was beaten up. Something like that never happened during his entire existance. Every time when he was doing bad, he was in a weak condition.

Him being totally manipulated by Osborn on letting the Void take control over and over again, that is actually being very weak and if he is very weak, his power level sinks.
Do you actually understand that, or do you want me to open Photoshop and draw you a colorful picture?
With his power level probably still low (yet so damn high in the opinion of this entire board), he was trashing Thor during the Siege.
Then the Void took over and it was finally over for Thor, who would have probably been torn apart just the way Ares was torn apart, if Osborn didn't interfere.

Besides that what other instances do we have?
Oh yeah, a depowered Sentry VS WW Hulk. Who had the upper hand in the fight? Right, Sentry.
Who was still mainly brawling it out with his fists with one of Hulk's most powerful incarnations.

I remember Thor having some seeeeeeerious issues with Hulk in the past. Thor without his hammer would have been lost.

Unstable Sentry > Weakened Thor.
Unstable Sentry = (<😉 Regular Thor.
Stable Sentry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thor.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Yes, because they were in an universe without death. Should be kinda logical, that no one can kill them there, besides the guy who comes with Death herself and brings the aspect of Death into that particular universe when he uses his powers o_O

You're getting pesky and even more ridiculous with that WW Hulk bullcrap.

1. Yes, Thanos was fighting Champion and asked himself if the fall from the orbit would kill Champion, because even immortality has it's limits. That were Thanos' words.

2. It's a perfectly understandable logic, that people from Cancerverse don't have the choice to die, because the concept of death does not exist in that universe. Robert Reynolds returns from the death, because he chooses to. He is more then just immortal, he is omnipotent. People from the Cancerverse are not omnipotent, because they can't die. Teleport these people into the regular Marvel universe. Will they be able to die? Probably yes, because death exists in that universe.

3. Avatar Of Death is the only thing which could turn this fight in Thanos' favour. Besides that he has so many disadvantages. Without the AOD upgrade he is lost.

If we go by current versions, then there wouldn't even be a fight, since Sentry is supposed to be dead, even though he is not, since we never saw him returning during Chaos War, where the Chaos King was resurrecting everyone.

His best showings are destroying planets, while holding back, while Captain America was in the microverse. When Photon teleported Captain America away, Sentry's energies escalated and surpassed the microverse. They were visible in the real world, while he was in a microverse, which is beyond the sub-atomic level.

Silver Surfer does not have that much power and neither has Thanos. And no: "The very universe screams." doesn't prove anything.

I already told you how many Thanos comics I have, while you probably don't have even one single comic with Sentry in it. Your Sentry knowledge comes from other discussions, when he was a often used character in forum battles and where Sentry haters posted his "low" showings to downgrade him and totally ignored everything awesome he has ever done and that's what you're basically doing right now.

Yet again you're wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Void himself said that it's not up to him if he can return from the dead or not. It is Robert Reynolds decision, since he is the one with the power, while Void is simply an aspect of his personality.

Robert always has the choice.

Do what you want, I can negatve everything you bring in, because you don't have a clue.

The very same Photon who left the microverse after we saw Sentry's energy growing, growing and even outgrowing the microverse.
Photon probably never had a different chance but to BFR Sentry and even there he already knew that Sentry would find a way out.

Sentry can teleport at will, while Thanos has to use tech to teleport. He even has to say it. I'm pretty sure that Sentry can act faster then Thanos can speak, so Thanos is the one who will be BFR'd first, so don't even bring the BFR aspect into the debate.

Besides that Sentry has so many other advantages, while Thanos only advantage is his intellect / mind and even for that he needs time, which he would not have in this one, since Sentry is that fast.

I said so often, that Sentry wins o_O

Oh yeah and something else: Sentry wins.
Do you want to know a secret? Sentry wins.
1 + 1 = Sentry wins.

I've no interest in this fight but enzeru has some point that need more clarification like sentry's energy shown in real world from microverse. First distance between dimensions or universes is meaningless as they occupy the same space and are seprated by vibrational frequncies. So the notion that sentry produced so much energy that he was destroying planets and it's light crossed an entire universe within such a short amount of time is absurd and speculative at best for many reasons like light can't cross dimensions. That's more likely to be an aperture or dimensional doorway to the spot Genis took sentry. If visibility from a large distance is a meter to destructive power, take a look

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/60/speed6gj.jpg

Here Eradicator can be spotted to literally the edge of the universe, I mean he must be far, far, far, far above planet buster, right?

Now I expect enzeru to post something gigantic blaming it to Bendis and once again correcting us foolish mortals about the almighty "stable sentry".

Oh and I forgot to add another dimensional crossing, here Orion FLEW from New genesis to earth under a heart-beat

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/fangirl101_photos/Orion/ng_16_p04.jpg

Tell me how fast Orion is? Surely faster than anybody, right?

Check out best sentry combat speed feat on-panel (not in enzeru's dreams) as admitted by The golden guardian of truth himself, guys.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3852/hulk9006.jpg

Ya ain't seen nothin' like it!
Sorry for triple post. I am on my phone right now.

I support u all the enzuru

But Hulk>Sentry

Originally posted by abhilegend
I've no interest in this fight but enzeru has some point that need more clarification like sentry's energy shown in real world from microverse.

How about you stop bringing in DC characters into debates where they don't belong to? You already tried to do it in the "Sentry VS Annihilators" thread and I ignored it exquisitely, just the way I'm going to do it now, because:

1. Eredicator and Orion have nothing to do with the Marvel universe and they have nothing to do with this battle.
You basically tried the same thing back then in the other threads with your Kyle / Oblivion non-sense.
No one cares about that, so get lost.

2. But even besides, that - you're assuming right now things and not paying actual attention.
Microverses are something from Marvel. If you google it, you will come across few sites with informations in it.
DC has nothing to do with microverses, since they "only" exist in the Marvel universe.

>>> http://marvel.com/universe/Microverse
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microverse
>>> http://www.comicvine.com/microverse/34-43832/

1. No one likes you, Rajesh and your attitude is the reason for it.

2. The scans I will post are speaking for themself. You see the characters talking about it and you see their actions. The narration says it also, where it talks about Sentry's unfathomable energies.

At first, Sentry refuses to fight, because he is afraid the Earth could suffer. Then Photon teleports them both and Captain America away and they start destroying worlds (try to keep in mind, that they were shrinked beyond the sub-atomic level, where atoms were like planets to them).

Photon teleports Captain America to safety and they cut loose. Pay attention at the different looks of their energies. While Sentry's is golden, Photon's is crystallish blue and what color has the energy that expands the microverse, so that you can see it in the real world on Iron Man's armor, the place where the microverse is? Hell yes, it's golden and belongs to the Sentry!

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2320/newthunderbolts014page0.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2320/newthunderbolts014page0.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8394/newthunderbolts014page1.jpg

PS: Light does not have to be destructive energy, especially because we already saw Sentry releasing a similar energy waves which were destroying New York, while he was unstable and there we see him releasing energies, which are tearing apart various planets, while he is holding back.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Check out best sentry combat speed feat on-panel (not in enzeru's dreams) as admitted by The golden guardian of truth himself, guys.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3852/hulk9006.jpg

Thanks for posting that scan. I would post it too to support Sentry's speed, you big bafoon.

That scan is awesome. Sentry is simply everywhere on the picture and not slightly fading out, he is basically everywhere, because he is that fast.

Flash is doing something like that, when he appears at the same spot twice, to fool someone and make it look like there are Barry and the Flash standing at the same time.

Besides that what is Sentry doing there? He is repairing a tower and uber-speed. What does he need for that? He flies from point A to point B and do action C, then he flies from point B to point A, to pick up the thingy for the action C, then he flies from point A to point B, to do action C again.
That requiers him to stop and take off over and over again, something which should slow down characters, because they always have to start again, yet he is doing it so fast, that he is still everywhere over the picture.

Since when can Thanos move that fast? Oh wait, he can't, lol! He has to wait for fast characters to make mistakes, to actually tag and attack them, lol!

Sentry > Thanos
Enzeru > Rajesh

^ I love it when someone tries to play DC or marvel card. You might be surprised to know but common sense is universal. Marvel's multiverse was based upon DC multiverse before COIE and even the basic knowledge of how parallel dimensions works can tell you that distance between universes is meaningless. We saw what happens when sentry let loose in wwh, a few buildings were destroyed and your conspiracy theory starts with Greg pak depowering sentry. Once again who is Rajesh? Mind your own damn business, kmc is not your property.