Hulk vs Thor

Originally posted by carver9
What I am telling you is, Hulk hit Thor one time in that entire fight. Thor back stabbed Thing with Mjlonir and backstabbed Hulk as well that was looking at Thing laying on the ground. The crazy thing about this is, he still couldnt even ko Nul.

Lol...its debatable if Nul was koed in space...especially a Nul that was trying to talk. What wereyou expecting him to do while floating in space? Fly? Thor bfred Nul because Nul was too much for him and Thor admitted this himself and Thor also admitted he could never beat Hulk.

Lol...Nul tanked Thor hammer hit...he was on his ft after Thor pounded on him. Hell, Thor was more hurt by hitting Nul than vice verse. If you think Thor backstabbing Thing and bfring Nul while koing himself ramming Hulk chest is a good showing, I feel...well...bad for Thor fans.

It was only paying back the thing for launching him from behind through that building. The patter on Hulk's feet plus the way he was knocked out of the building shows he was indeed looking at Thor at the time of the blow. It was a good showing for Nul, and it showed how strong he was. It's still not like he no sold the hits or something.

The empty speech bubble is Fractions way of saying someone just got majorly phucked up. He used it with Galactus also. You could argue he was heavily stunned to I guess. But it still affected him pretty bad.

He did admit that, but then he proceeded to beat him. And has done so in the past to it makes it irrelevant. If Hulk said "I could never beat you" to Thor, that would be bull shit as he has beat Thor to sleep before. Same thing here.

That's not tanking. He got his blood splattered, was in clear pain, and was visibly wounded. Tanking would be what Thor did to Surfer's blast. Thor was more hurt by his fight. He hurt Nul more though when he put him in space.

You feel bad for Thor fans? lol k...Thor has more feats than any hero in Marvel. His best >>>>>>> Hulk's best any day of the week.

He still backstabbed him with Mjlonir though. Thing didn't even get the chance to fight.

It showed Nul turned around before Thor attacked him. Couldn't get any clearer. Nul back was turned, Thor charged him swinging.

I never said Nul tanked the hit that launched him into space. What I did say was...there is no proof he was koed. Nul not doing the hussle while floating in space isn't proof he was koed, especially since he started screaming as soon as he hit earth atmosphere.

Thor bfring Nul isn't him physically beating him. He didn't have a choice but to bfr him because that was his only option. His charged hammer hits failed.

It should have been clear since Nul creation that its not difficult to injure him. If Spider Woman and Ms. Marvel can damage him, don't you think Thor can? Cutting him isn't the issue since everyone and their grandmomma made him bleed...keeping him down was the hard part and Thor failed at that. Nul bounced back up after Thor charged hammer strikes whereas Thor was on the ground fatigued.

Lol...Thir has been koed twice by Hulk this yr...I think I am missing one. Thor damaging Skyfather doesn't change the fact he can't handle a punch from Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
He still backstabbed him with Mjlonir though. Thing didn't even get the chance to fight.

It showed Nul turned around before Thor attacked him. Couldn't get any clearer. Nul back was turned, Thor charged him swinging.

I never said Nul tanked the hit that launched him into space. What I did say was...there is no proof he was koed. Nul not doing the hussle while floating in space isn't proof he was koed, especially since he started screaming as soon as he hit earth atmosphere.

Thor bfring Nul isn't him physically beating him. He didn't have a choice but to bfr him because that was his only option. His charged hammer hits failed.

It should have been clear since Nul creation that its not difficult to injure him. If Spider Woman and Ms. Marvel can damage him, don't you think Thor can? Cutting him isn't the issue since everyone and their grandmomma made him bleed...keeping him down was the hard part and Thor failed at that. Nul bounced back up after Thor charged hammer strikes whereas Thor was on the ground fatigued.

Lol...Thir has been koed twice by Hulk this yr...I think I am missing one. Thor damaging Skyfather doesn't change the fact he can't handle a punch from Hulk.

Thing was charging right at him and Thor told him to stop. Ben didn't listen and Thor, reluctantly, decided to put an end to it. It's just as fair and legal an attack as Surfer's board from behind trick or a speedblitz on someone who knows they're in a fight. The attack not coming directly in front of him doesn't make it 'cheap' or whatever it is you're trying to spin it off as.

Also *killing Skyfathers, not damaging them. Hulk's been mind controlled and attacked an unsuspecting Thor twice. And for that second shot which happened recently in Hickman's Avengers, we don't even know if that was a true one shot or if the fight continued or not.

I thought the way Thor oneshot Thing was awesome and legit.

It was impressive to say the least, but I thought it was ridiculous and over the top, much like most of Fraction's Thor stuff. Even though he expressed regret in doing so, I can't say that any other interpretation of Thor would so willingly inflict a fatal injury on a mind controlled ally and friend.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I thought the way Thor oneshot Thing was awesome and legit.

It was beautiful insofar that I get a sick pleasure out of seeing Ben Grimm be viciously hurt.

y u no like the Ben?

Thor didn't have much of a chance to defend himself while he on the ground either. Shit happens in a fight.

no you're wrong and I already said why.

Those aren't the blows I'm talking about. He didn't tank the earlier hammer swings either. He was given Asgardian powers. Asgardians can talk in space. That Nul could not and " " is Fractions way of saying "He's phucked up" is pretty indicative of at least a brief Ko, and waking up as he caught on fire due to reentry.

He beat him though. And it's what matters. Thor isn't a limited character like that Hulk is. That's why he's the superior. He's got a lot more than charged melee at his disposal to.

Bendis. Bendis will, allow anyone to hurt anyone or even straight up beat them if it serves his purpose. Just as a recent example: Vision BFR'd Thor. How do you bfr someone who is ftl, and can teleport? In the case of Nul, he let spiderwoman hurt him. Spiderwoman would be hardpressed to hurt gray hulk. It's PIS and I don't hold it against anyone who is forced to suffer Bendis. point is: no one gave hell to Nul like Thor did. Just compare it:

or

who hurt Nul and who didn't?

Thor's been ko'd once this year. and it's been the worse piece of crap written by Benids in a long time. Ignore the Thor Ko's, and it'd still be crap that tried to sell to a noob audience. He character raped your hero in the process to. You should be pissed at him.

oh, and Thor's done more than hurt skyfathers. In the past months he's killed and ko'd abstracts. Just saying.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
y u no like the Ben?

I do.

Like I said, a sick pleasure.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I do.

Like I said, a sick pleasure.

mmm

Originally posted by Damborgson
The empty speech bubble is Fractions way of saying someone just got majorly phucked up. He used it with Galactus also. You could argue he was heavily stunned to I guess. But it still affected him pretty bad.

The empty speech bubble doesnt indicate KO. Fraction uses the same thing a lot in Fear Itself to indicate a reaction to a big moment. Kind of like you might have a "!!!" speech bubble in manga.

The same thing is seen when Thing picks up the hammer, when Sin picks up her hammer, when the Serpent gets more power, when Thor smashes a Giant in the face (coming from Thor, not the Giant). In fact, Fraction using it in this case makes it pretty clear Nulk wasn't KOed IMO.

Good scans fifth child.

Originally posted by Fifthchild
The empty speech bubble doesnt indicate KO. Fraction uses the same thing a lot in Fear Itself to indicate a reaction to a big moment. Kind of like you might have a "!!!" speech bubble in manga.

The same thing is seen when Thing picks up the hammer, when Sin picks up her hammer, when the Serpent gets more power, when Thor smashes a Giant in the face (coming from Thor, not the Giant). In fact, Fraction using it in this case makes it pretty clear Nulk wasn't KOed IMO.

Yep I knew about those and figured they would come up sooner or later.

Thankfully, the scene includes more than just the " " to back up the ko theory. Otherwise those scans would pretty much put an end to it.

the moments you put up, all were around a large flash, explosion of some sort. In my opinion, it was like saying the sound was drowned out. In Nuls case, like in galactus' case, there was no such thing at the moment of the " " to suggest the drowning out of the sound. Yeah they're in space, but one being powered by asgardian magic and the other one being...Galactus ends that theory right there. So while yes of course the " " can simply be done for a big moment effect, I think there's still enough evidence around for it to easily be considered a flash ko under the circumstances.

Originally posted by carver9
Good scans fifth child.

you gave up already? You dont have the fight in you, you used to have.

Originally posted by Damborgson
you gave up already? You dont have the fight in you, you used to have.

No, I didn't give up:..it was 4 in the morning where I'm at when j was debating you. I went to sleep. I will respond later.

@Damborgson...

I'm not saying anything about Thor being on the ground...what I am saying is, during that entire fight, Nul only hit Thor once...his durability alone koed Thor. What I am also saying is that Thor was fatigued after hitting Nul, hell, his speech was split up due to him being fatigued/trying to get up off his ft to catch his breath.

Ok, let me reword my statement. Nul didn't tank Thor hits since he did have cuts, but he withstood those attacks and didn't show a sign of fatigue or being anywhere as close to being out of the fight and this came from a Thor that was trying to kill him.

No, the hit that took him into space didn't drop him or damage him to the point of knocking him out. If anything, it appears as if Nul was shocked...had the WTF look on his face. Lol reentry doesn't do a thing to Hulk, he doesn't feel it and this was proven on multiples of occasions. If he was knocked out, reentry would be the last thing to wake him up. So overall, you are reaching and don't have a shed of proof to help your argument.

Lol...I agree, Thor did beat Hulk but he didnt physically overwhelm them or anything, he just played his cards right. Thor isn't above Hulk either, this has been proven on multiples of occasion...especially against current Hulk.

Just because Bendis allowed Nul to be hurt, we don't exclude it. Nul wasn't hard to cut/bruise at all and this was shown against EVERYONE he's fought. I agree though, out of everyone he's faced, I think Thor hurt him more.

Yeah, Thor has damaged Abstracts, etc...that doesn't have a thing to do with his showings against Hulk...him having a team backing him while fighting Hulk and them still failing. You just underate Hulks power.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor didn't have much of a chance to defend himself while he on the ground either. Shit happens in a fight.

no you're wrong and I already said why.

Those aren't the blows I'm talking about. He didn't tank the earlier hammer swings either. He was given Asgardian powers. Asgardians can talk in space. That Nul could not and " " is Fractions way of saying "He's phucked up" is pretty indicative of at least a brief Ko, and waking up as he caught on fire due to reentry.

He beat him though. And it's what matters. Thor isn't a limited character like that Hulk is. That's why he's the superior. He's got a lot more than charged melee at his disposal to.

Bendis. Bendis will, allow anyone to hurt anyone or even straight up beat them if it serves his purpose. Just as a recent example: Vision BFR'd Thor. How do you bfr someone who is ftl, and can teleport? In the case of Nul, he let spiderwoman hurt him. Spiderwoman would be hardpressed to hurt gray hulk. It's PIS and I don't hold it against anyone who is forced to suffer Bendis. point is: no one gave hell to Nul like Thor did. Just compare it:

or

who hurt Nul and who didn't?

Thor's been ko'd once this year. and it's been the worse piece of crap written by Benids in a long time. Ignore the Thor Ko's, and it'd still be crap that tried to sell to a noob audience. He character raped your hero in the process to. You should be pissed at him.

oh, and Thor's done more than hurt skyfathers. In the past months he's killed and ko'd abstracts. Just saying.

Originally posted by carver9
@Damborgson...

I'm not saying anything about Thor being on the ground...what I am saying is, during that entire fight, Nul only hit Thor once...his durability alone koed Thor. What I am also saying is that Thor was fatigued after hitting Nul, hell, his speech was split up due to him being fatigued/trying to get up off his ft to catch his breath.

Ok, let me reword my statement. Nul didn't tank Thor hits since he did have cuts, but he withstood those attacks and didn't show a sign of fatigue or being anywhere as close to being out of the fight and this came from a Thor that was trying to kill him.

No, the hit that took him into space didn't drop him or damage him to the point of knocking him out. If anything, it appears as if Nul was shocked...had the WTF look on his face. Lol reentry doesn't do a thing to Hulk, he doesn't feel it and this was proven on multiples of occasions. If he was knocked out, reentry would be the last thing to wake him up. So overall, you are reaching and don't have a shed of proof to help your argument.

Lol...I agree, Thor did beat Hulk but he didnt physically overwhelm them or anything, he just played his cards right. Thor isn't above Hulk either, this has been proven on multiples of occasion...especially against current Hulk.

Just because Bendis allowed Nul to be hurt, we don't exclude it. Nul wasn't hard to cut/bruise at all and this was shown against EVERYONE he's fought. I agree though, out of everyone he's faced, I think Thor hurt him more.

Yeah, Thor has damaged Abstracts, etc...that doesn't have a thing to do with his showings against Hulk...him having a team backing him while fighting Hulk and them still failing. You just underate Hulks power.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What you always leave out is Thor didn't just fight Nul and Angrir. He literally just fought a smally army of ice trolls and then got blasted by the Serpent himself which bfr'd him into the laps of those 2. Why do you keep spouting the nonsense that Nul's durability KO'd Thor. Da fukkk?!

No sign of any of that affecting him in battle. If that slowed him down then he needs to give up the title of being a high Herald. Example...Superman fought non stop during OWAW. Bill flight non stop as well during his adventure at stopping Galactus. Both were still operating at Herald status. Gladiator fought non stop during the Vulcan war.

Nul didn't hit him but one time during that fight whereas Thor fatigued himself hammer hitting Nul and got koed ramming Nul. Now do you get it?

Whoa this Is Wbh in this thread. Recent wouldn't even survive in his presence from the look of things...and classic would get oneshotted.