The Death of Annie Dryden

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which is why I asked if he sought out male friends to inform them of this fact. Otherwise it just seems like he things his wife is stupid, which would be rather condescending.

I don't know if there's an objective answer as to whether or not males are more resistant to knock-out punches. However, it should be obvious that the average female would throw a "weaker" punch than the average male.

On top of that, you'd find that the average US male is sedentary, out of shape, and weak...and most likely unable to knock out renegade Russian Special Forces.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Was anything in Salt realistic?

I see your point but to answer literally: yes, lots of stuff.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The reviews I heard suggested that Jolie and Depp weren't portraying humans.*

I get it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I completely fail to understand this sudden obsession with how women perform in action movies.

It is not realistic to show Jason Statham get hit in the skull by a lead pipe wielded by a eight foot tall man and just walk it off, but I don't see that creating an uproar anywhere. Action movies make only the barest of allusions toward reality in the first place. To focus on how well women are following the laws of physics is, as I have said repeatedly, really really stupid.

*Badum-tish

I don't consider those two points to be mutually exclusive to Mindship's point. I think they both apply to Mindship's point, equally. It's unrealistic to think a dude could survive a very strong swing with a big lead pipe right to the cranium: people die from less.

There does not appear to be any difference in how unrealistic the face-breaking punches from a 105 lbs Jolie and a Statham tanking pipe swings to the skull are (that's a confusing sentence...but you know what I mean).

But it's even more unrealistic to believe Jolie could knock all of those guys out (with her fists) than Statham did in the second transporter film (where he put on the bike peddles for shoes in that garage and started Chuck Norris Style roundhouse kicking the stumbling baffoons...awesome action sequence). Probably because Statham weighs 50-70 lbs more, is taller, has a larger frame, and is much stronger...

And now we are back on Mindship's original point. It's fer fantasy, really, so it doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah, that's the perfect system for firefighters/cops/soldiers. Its a shame we don't have similarly objective tests we can use for most professions.

I believe we talked about this in another thread...deja vu...

But, yeah, all physically demanding jobs should be blind to sex/gender, imo. If you can do it, do it and get paid. That is a rather libertarian position but I agree with it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Otherwise it just seems like he thinks his wife is stupid, which would be rather condescending.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But, yeah, all physically demanding jobs should be blind to sex/gender, imo. If you can do it, do it and get paid.

That is a rather libertarian position but I agree with it.

wait, what are we to deduce from your article?

a man would have went to the ER?

men are impervious to brain trauma?

anecdotal evidence is win?

That women tend to be far far weaker than men and that, due to the skewering of standards for female soldiers, there are a lot of women in the military who are no where near their male counterparts in physical efficiency, which results in them being a liability on the battlefield.

What we've all unanimously come to the conclusion of, is that if women are to be allowed to serve on front-line positions within the military, they need to be able to perform at the same level of standards as the men, same goes with weak or effeminate gurly men. If they can't, that's too bad. The military isn't about equality, and rightfully so. It's about efficiency.

That's the gist of the thread. Beyond that, Sym's got his pc panties in a bunch about something that I can't comprehend. It is entertaining, though.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I can present a nice anecdote for you: a "bar trick" (never took place in a bar or involved alcohol) I used to do was let people punch me in the face for a fee. I have never been knocked out and it was hilarious to see people try. And Mindship is also right about the damage done to the hands throwing the punches: one dude busted his knuckles open on my temple.

How much would I have to pay for that pleasure?

Originally posted by Mindship
Not punched in the face (it doesn't take much to damage a nose); I said punched (socked) in the jaw, ie, knuckle against bone. Unless your hand is used to hitting something hard, your hand is gonna hurt, at best. And given that the average woman's hand is smaller/finer-boned than the average man's, it's not realistic to portray a woman walking up to a man, punching him square in the jaw and then walk away all la-de-da. As I also said, even for a man to do this to another man is not an injury-free feat (again, untrained participants).

Incorrect.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How much would I have to pay for that pleasure?

I will pay for 1/2 the fee to see you lay him flat on his back.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
pc

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2783-Correctitude

Also point out when people are stupid hardly strike me as "politically correct" even by the most Libertarian twisting the definition.

Thus enforcing my theory that the only people who ever post that video are PC panty-waists themselves.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Link won't load. Way to go, PC panty-waist.

Works for me. Maybe you need a new computer.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Thus enforcing my theory that the only people who ever post that video are PC panty-waists themselves.

Aww, it made dadude cry when I posted it last time.

Still sums up my thoughts.

I'm going to win this edit battle bro. I'm a level 25 editor bro.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2783-Correctitude

Also point out when people are stupid hardly strike me as "politically correct" even by the most Libertarian twisting the definition.

laughcry

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
The Escapist is a bunch of beta nerd f*ggots, so I don't care what they have to say.

Hey it made Zeal cry too! 😄

Two out of three isn't bad.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I live on the moon.

😕 So?

reported have fun in ban-land bro i reported you to ush lol

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
reported have fun in ban-land bro i reported you to ush lol

i saw u edit but it was first 30 secs so therz no thingy!!!!1

Ok folks, either focus on something useful to discuss or I'll close. The way I see it, seeing people are agreed that standards should be the same between genders, two points of discussion have been raised

1. Is it inevitable that allowing females into an organisation leads to them getting lower entry standards?

2. Is the issue of sexual violence against women in the armed forces a reason to keep them out of the military?

If you find anything else useful to discuss coming from the original article, be my guest, but it's time for all the various attacks to stop.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect.

Fists not even needed.