Can Thor Respond To A Speedblitz?

It's a case of allowing the opportunity to win, because it doesn't take even a few seconds to make the decision to dodge an attack. superman would be waiting what feels like minutes to him, vs a high end speed thor.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not sure if this has been done, but I'm curious what are the arguments for or against Thor being able to defend himself against such an attack

I'm sure he could given his resume of wins. Also, is he allowed the hammer to counter ? If so then yes for sure. He spins that thing all around himself at FTL speeds.

Originally posted by Don Corleone
I'm sure he could given his resume of wins. Also, is he allowed the hammer to counter ? If so then yes for sure. He spins that thing all around himself at FTL speeds.

Gladiator has worked on a computer at hyperspeeds for hours (hyperspeed>>>>light speed...and.this was a reflex ft).

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8585/hyperspeed35nr.jpg

Gladiator has reacted/thought at near light speeds.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg

Followed a ship through hyperspace with no trouble at all.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3697/hyperspeed9yu.jpg

Moving 100 Times the speed of light and slowed down when he came.to.Earth.

Speed blitzing fist.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4397/gladpower26gw.jpg

Tied Cannonball up in a block of metal before he knew what was going on.

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8432/gladiatorvscannonball41tu.jpg

Grabs Supreme and takes him out of Orbit before he had the chance to react (and Supreme have light speed showings of his own).

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4124/gladiatorvssupreme126fv.jpg

Hit Johnny so fast that he didn't even see him move.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/385/gladfastqv9.jpg/

Combating at nano second speed.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/68/39597113mf8.jpg/

Moving at blurry speeds.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/71744606.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/65500345.jpg/

So fast that he can see an alien, high tech sniper bullet in slow motion and carry a sentence in his head along with make a decision before the bullet hit its target.

http://f.imagehost.org/view/0493/02_14
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0847/03_3
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Imperial%20Guard/Kallark-ReacttoBullet.jpg

Moved so fast that Wonderman (who has super speed of his own) didn't even see him move.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/116/36644588mv7.jpg/

I'm not posting anymore fts because my point is...even though Gladiator have INSANE reaction speed...Thor still kept up with him after all of this which alone proves that Thor can keep up with people that have amazing speed.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator has worked on a computer at hyperspeeds for hours (hyperspeed>>>>light speed...and.this was a reflex ft).

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8585/hyperspeed35nr.jpg

Gladiator has reacted/thought at near light speeds.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg

Followed a ship through hyperspace with no trouble at all.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3697/hyperspeed9yu.jpg

Moving 100 Times the speed of light and slowed down when he came.to.Earth.

Speed blitzing fist.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4397/gladpower26gw.jpg

Tied Cannonball up in a block of metal before he knew what was going on.

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8432/gladiatorvscannonball41tu.jpg

Grabs Supreme and takes him out of Orbit before he had the chance to react (and Supreme have light speed showings of his own).

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4124/gladiatorvssupreme126fv.jpg

Hit Johnny so fast that he didn't even see him move.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/385/gladfastqv9.jpg/

Combating at nano second speed.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/68/39597113mf8.jpg/

Moving at blurry speeds.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/71744606.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/65500345.jpg/

So fast that he can see an alien, high tech sniper bullet in slow motion and carry a sentence in his head along with make a decision before the bullet hit its target.

http://f.imagehost.org/view/0493/02_14
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0847/03_3
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Imperial%20Guard/Kallark-ReacttoBullet.jpg

Moved so fast that Wonderman (who has super speed of his own) didn't even see him move.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/116/36644588mv7.jpg/

I'm not posting anymore fts because my point is...even though Gladiator have INSANE reaction speed...Thor still kept up with him after all of this which alone proves that Thor can keep up with people that have amazing speed.

All of this is irrelevant unless you can show Gladiator speed blitzing Thor and Thor reacting faster than Gladiator can move. Your logic is totally flawed. It's like me arguing that since Batman has fought Superman, and Superman is FTL, it means Batman can react FTL.

BRB who has the same powers as Thor fought Surfer in an FTL fight

Originally posted by Badabing
Some people didn't consider this a speed blitz but these are the only scans I have of Thor responding to a potential speed blitz.

That Thor is amped. He has the OF.

Yes Thor can react to speedsters period regardless of amps or not!!

there is quite frankly proof that supports BOTH sides. thor's speed or lack thereof is a plot device and as such is completely inconsistent. the argument will never be settled completely because there IS no completely right answer. its very hard to even settle on a range of speed for thor and his ability to react.

Originally posted by leonidas
there is quite frankly proof that supports BOTH sides. thor's speed or lack thereof is a plot device and as such is completely inconsistent. the argument will never be settled completely because there IS no completely right answer. its very hard to even settle on a range of speed for thor and his ability to react.

we take overall depiction...even if there may be exceptions

and its clear thor is not capable of dealing with a speedblitz

this is a man who said wolverine was too fast for him fer crying out loud

Originally posted by Starscream M
thats a damn copout

we take overall depiction...even if there may be exceptions

and its clear thor is not capable of dealing with a speedblitz

this is a man who said wolverine was too fast for him fer crying out loud

so, why so sure the wolverine thing wasn't an exception? or as i said, a plot device?

only if by copout you mean fact.

he's also blocked a tp bolt from phoenix without effort. and routinely blocks everything from bullets to lasers with his hammer without effort.

so, what are the majority scenes you're referencing that so "overwhelmingly" show he can't react to superspeed? because i can only think of a very short lis that support the stancet. but i can't wait to hear your ironclad case.

oh, of course he's also the guy who said he can't beat hulk. 😐

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, of course he's also the guy who said he can't beat hulk. 😐

Originally posted by leonidas

he's also blocked a tp bolt from phoenix without effort. and routinely blocks everything from bullets to lasers with his hammer without effort.

a speedblitz is a complete different beast (iirc, gladiator used some speed once, and completely overwhelmed thor when glads hit the juice)

Just as Superman does not ALWAYS use his super-speed, neither does Thor.

It would seem that it is the same as other "powers", where the character must make a conscious decision to use it, otherwise, they move in a more mediocre mode.

For instance, once again, Superman does not walk around using his "Heat Vision" to simply SEE, as he goes about his business.

Although, that would be SERIOUSLY funny!

If the character has been shown to own a specific "power" or attribute, it would seem, to me, that it should count in a forum battle.

Otherwise, you are stepping onto a very slippery slope and welcoming disgruntled forum members to utilize this argument any time they are able to dig up minimal evidence of the LACK of use of a power.

I know that I have personally debated in similar situations where my opponents have simply decided that an ability of my character does not count, because it has only been used once or twice.

So, it would seem that either:

1. Rarely used powers, abilities and attributes should still be considered "canon".

or

2. Come up with a formula or method that will create a standardized classification for these situations.

Or, just keep arguing as you have been, because it's funny.

Originally posted by Starscream M
bullets, bolts, lasers....what do they all have in common? predictable straight trajectorys...in fact, one can block by anticipating well enough

a speedblitz is a complete different beast

not really. most speedblitzes are straight line attacks. it's about his ability to perceive high speeds then react to them. sometimes he can, sometimes he can't. imo, on the whole, i think he's generally fast enough to not be overwhelmed by MOST speedsters--or at least he'd have a chance to react to them or defend very early on. there are just too few instances of his being completely overwhelmed by speed to say that a speedblitz would automatically be effective. but i can't fault anyone for saying the opposite either because as i said there is support for that position as well. not all debates CAN be settled satisfactorily. were he to fight supes, i might say supes speed would be too much for him 2-3 fights out of 10. the others fights would come down to different things. singular answers aren't always necessary--sometimes a sprectrum can be used.

Originally posted by Starscream M
point? he's right ya know...and he would know, considering how many times he has gone up against the green behemoth

point is he has pretty effortlessly ko'd hulk with lightning. point is if he chose to use his full range of powers hulk would have no real prayer of winning. point is, apparently thor is not the most reliable narrator, like superman isn't.....

Originally posted by leonidas
there are just too few instances of his being completely overwhelmed by speed to say that a speedblitz would automatically be effective.

I mean I can say the thing can handle a speedblitz since he hasn't been blitzed often, if at all or any number of characters.

Just want to throw in "Thor can't beat Hulk" just like Superman can't beat Doomsday. You all can continue.

Originally posted by carver9
Just want to throw in "Thor can't beat Hulk" just like Superman can't beat Doomsday. You all can continue.