Yoda blocked Sidious' Force Lightning through Tutaminis. Considering this is the same Force Lightning that bent Mace Windu's lightsaber back at his face, I'd say Yoda is more than adequately qualified in Tutaminis.
Even if not, you yourself have said that people have different strengths and specialities. Yoda has demonstrated power and fought evenly with foes beyond anything Satale has. The two don't even compare.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yoda blocked Sidious' Force Lightning through Tutaminis. Considering this is the same Force Lightning that bent Mace Windu's lightsaber back at his face, I'd say Yoda is more than adequately qualified in Tutaminis.Even if not, you yourself have said that people have different strengths and specialities. Yoda has demonstrated power and fought evenly with foes beyond anything Satale has. The two don't even compare.
I'm not going to make an absolute argument to contradict you here, but to be fair to Satele, in Fatal Alliance she is able to shield herself completely from the vacuum of space, mentally dominate droids which have very small organic parts, and crumples said droids up like tinfoil balls at the drop of a hat.
She's not the greatest evah, but she's certainly up there.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I'm not going to make an absolute argument to contradict you here, but to be fair to Satele, in Fatal Alliance she is able to shield herself completely from the vacuum of space, mentally dominate droids which have very small organic parts, and crumples said droids up like tinfoil balls at the drop of a hat.She's not the greatest evah, but she's certainly up there.
Certainly. I'm not saying she's weak, she is after all Jedi Grandmaster. I just think that LeGeND is being somewhat overzealous in his desire to have the ToR-era eclipse the PT one in all regards.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Certainly. I'm not saying she's weak, she is after all Jedi Grandmaster. I just think that LeGeND is being somewhat overzealous in his desire to have the ToR-era eclipse the PT one in all regards.
Point is that you need to understand that Star Wars will never be the same like it was 5 years ago.
You don't have any problem with overpowering of characters in DE or later era? Why complain about TOR only?
In fact, TOR has also introduced new Force powers. The developers would try to keep new works interesting to generate sales.
But Yoda' reputation is still solid in the grand picture. However, if you assume that no Jedi could rival him or surpass him barring Luke, you are sadly mistaken.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWe don;t, but you do. You have that strange habit of grossly exaggerating anything stated in TOR era media(games, trailers)yet you either completely ignore other sources that show the same level, or greater powers(TFU,DE) than the ones in TOR trailers.You don't have any problem with overpowering of characters in DE or later era? Why complain about TOR only?
Thats basically the whole reason nobody takes you that seriously.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI'd say the TOR characters don't eclipse the PT characters at all. Yoda lifted an entire mountain while Mace was stated to to have levitated and gripped 100 tons of rock.But Yoda' reputation is still solid in the grand picture. However, if you assume that no Jedi could rival him or surpass him barring Luke, you are sadly mistaken.
Are TOR characters pretty powerful? Damn right, but don't make gross exaggeratings.
And why bother debating here? Go enjoy the game, its one hell of a worthy investment
Originally posted by shinkoryuBingo.
We don;t, but you do. You have that strange habit of grossly exaggerating anything stated in TOR era media(games, trailers)yet you either completely ignore other sources that show the same level, or greater powers(TFU,DE) than the ones in TOR trailers.Thats basically the whole reason nobody takes you that seriously.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
We don;t, but you do. You have that strange habit of grossly exaggerating anything stated in TOR era media(games, trailers)yet you either completely ignore other sources that show the same level, or greater powers(TFU,DE) than the ones in TOR trailers.
Your accusations are baseless. I have no issue with overpowering of Post-OT characters. I don't complain over these matters.
However, I do have a problem with those who use 'hyperbolic statements' and 'misrepresent actual information' to support their point of view.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
Thats basically the whole reason nobody takes you that seriously.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
I'd say the TOR characters don't eclipse the PT characters at all. Yoda lifted an entire mountain while Mace was stated to to have levitated and gripped 100 tons of rock.
I have explicitly stated that Yoda' reputation is still solid in the grand picture. And you forgot to provide evidence of your claim of lifting the entire mountain.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
Are TOR characters pretty powerful? Damn right, but don't make gross exaggeratings.
PT/OT fans specially need to consider your advice.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
And why bother debating here? Go enjoy the game, its one hell of a worthy investment
1. Express my point of view
2. Address any misconceptions, when applicable
3. Learn from others
Though I am not as regular as I once used to be.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNot baseless when almost everyone else seems to think so.Your accusations are baseless. I have no issue with overpowering of Post-OT characters. I don't complain over these matters.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDSpeak for yourself. Thats hilarious you're trying to convince me this.
However, I do have a problem with those who use 'hyperbolic statements' and 'misrepresent actual information' to support their point of view.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI'd agree with vitiate, although based on my experience in SWTOR, most of his strength is amplified through dirty tricks like trinkets and rituals.
Where did I said that TOR characters eclipse PT characters? Vitiate seems to be the only exception among all others in my opinion.I have explicitly stated that Yoda' reputation is still solid in the grand picture. And you forgot to provide evidence of your claim of lifting the entire mountain.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDI'd say the only one who needs to do that is Lightsnake.
I donot.(you sure as hell do)PT/OT fans specially need to consider your advice.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDCorrected.
I come here to;1. Express my point of view
2. Address any misconceptions, when applicable3. Learn from others
Originally posted by shinkoryu
Not baseless when almost everyone else seems to think so. Speak for yourself. Thats hilarious you're trying to convince me this.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
I'd say the only one who needs to do that is Lightsnake.
Don't agree with me? Go check the Anakin vs Malgus thread for reference.
Originally posted by shinkoryu
Corrected.
My return is much better. Managed to address several misconceptions in recent debates. There is hardly any individual with whom I can't debate now.
However, member Borbarad still seems to be very challenging debator. He has amazing grasp of things. He is probably the best.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNot convinced.
You should provide concrete evidence. At worst, I possibly have my share of misjudgements. Opinions are not sufficient.No. Almost every PT/OT fan needs to.
Don't agree with me? Go check the Anakin vs Malgus thread for reference.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDHardly any individual you can't debate with?You are wrong again. I have learned a lot from these debates.
My return is much better. Managed to address several misconceptions in recent debates. There is hardly any individual with whom I can't debate now.
However, member Borbarad still seems to be very challenging debator. He has amazing grasp of things. He is probably the best.
The real answer is hardly anybody wants to engage in a debate with you, considering your over zealous attempts to downplay any source that works against your favour.
To put it shortly : You're friggin delusional.