Originally posted by The SorrowUsing other story-lines that ignore historic Marvel continuity (Onslaught) to bolster the feats of another character that makes a joke out of years of Marvel continuity (Sentry/Void) is a definite house-of-cards. Very Shaky!
Juggernaut goes crying into a little corner again like he did against Onslaught. Void stomps.
Classic Characters with years of on-panel feats should be given some sort of advantage in these forums. These idiotic story-lines with characters that carry "Instant Street Cred" keep turning the continuity upside down.
Juggernaut's powers have always been a roller-coaster ride, due to the writer's needs for Marvel Heroes to triumph some how. But if his most long-lasting, high-end and consistent showings are to be used here, he defeats the Void. Or, Void just sees that it is not a winnable battle.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Using other story-lines that ignore historic Marvel continuity (Onslaught) to bolster the feats of another character that makes a joke out of years of Marvel continuity (Sentry/Void) is a definite house-of-cards. Very Shaky!Classic Characters with years of on-panel feats should be given some sort of advantage in these forums. These idiotic story-lines with characters that carry "Instant Street Cred" keep turning the continuity upside down.
Juggernaut's powers have always been a roller-coaster ride, due to the writer's needs for Marvel Heroes to triumph some how. But if his most long-lasting, high-end and consistent showings are to be used here, he defeats the Void. Or, Void just sees that it is not a winnable battle.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Juggernaut died in Oblivion's realm.It wasn't Juggernauts power he was empowered by the Trion.
Oblivion was not able to kill him. Oblivion let him go in-exchange for his magic powers that he learned from the Crimson Cosmos.
I'm not even talking about the trion story. I'm talking about when D'Spayre siphoned off all his energy, and he said juggernaut's magic is powerful enough to warp the universe. Juggernaut's body has that much potential, but he's content to be a high end brick.
Originally posted by KingD19
That's what happened to his powers!!! Like the energy attacks and stuff like that.
Lol yeah. At one point when he was fighting the x-men, he was shooting energy blasts in rapid succession.
Even though he wasn't slinging them from his hands and they were rather shooting out from an 'aura' around his body, i was still reminded of vegeta for some reason. lol.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Oblivion was not able to kill him. Oblivion let him go in-exchange for his magic powers that he learned from the Crimson Cosmos.I'm not even talking about the trion story. I'm talking about when D'Spayre siphoned off all his energy, and he said juggernaut's magic is powerful enough to warp the universe. Juggernaut's body has that much potential, but he's content to be a high end brick.
IIRC D'Spayre said something along the lines of he was siphoning the magiks directly from the Crimson Cosmos using Juggernaut as a conduit. Potential is great but this has been said about many characters by the way.
Void destroys him like Cap Uni did or Onslaught did or he gets his molecules dispersed.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Juggernaut's high end showings include things like him being unkillable by Oblivion.And the magic in him being enough to warp and control the fabric of the universe.
Eh? I'm pretty sure that Oblivion never went out of his way to try and kill Juggernaut after he was banished to that realm. As a matter of fact, simply being in that realm caused Juggernaut to age and eventually die (His hate slowed down the process but it turned to fear after he was defeated by Beast). Eventually, Oblivion or whatever considered Juggernaut an annoying bacteria and revived him in exchange for his mystic powers.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Oblivion was not able to kill him. Oblivion let him go in-exchange for his magic powers that he learned from the Crimson Cosmos.I'm not even talking about the trion story. I'm talking about when D'Spayre siphoned off all his energy, and he said juggernaut's magic is powerful enough to warp the universe. Juggernaut's body has that much potential, but he's content to be a high end brick.
I don't think that scene was saying what you think. His own power -augmented by the energy of the Crimson Gem- allowed him to rebuild the gates to Oblivion so he could summon his horde and attempt to conquer Earth:
But he wasn't suddenly Franklin Richards due to the Crimson energies or whatever. I can double check (Been a while since I read the issue) but I doubt I'm forgetting anything.
