Originally posted by Stingerrain
Really? I was was under the impression she was a godess who was on par some of Darkstalkers' strongest characters. My bad, I didn't realize this was a spite match
Demitri tanked time-space busting and can prance around in one million degree temps without breaking a single bead of sweat. To make things worse, at 80% of his own power, he was capable of absorbing 400,000 light years of cosmic energy and was then capable of easily containing it.
Every character after Demitri is far more powerful than Demitri. Morrigan being the single most powerful. And Jedah is more powerful than Pyron. So the order should be,
1. Demitri (post Pyron-absorbtion)
2. Pyron
3. Jedah
4. Morrigan (fused with Lilith)
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Demitri tanked time-space busting and can prance around in one million degree temps without breaking a single bead of sweat. To make things worse, at 80% of his own power, he was capable of absorbing 400,000 light years of cosmic energy and was then capable of easily containing it.Every character after Demitri is far more powerful than Demitri. Morrigan being the single most powerful. And Jedah is more powerful than Pyron. So the order should be,
1. Demitri (post Pyron-absorbtion)
2. Pyron
3. Jedah
4. Morrigan (fused with Lilith)
Well my knowledge of Darkstalkers is a little....iffy. I've heard Jedah is stronger then Morrigan, and that Pyron is stronger then Jedah, etc. I'm not sure what to believe.
And like i previously stated, I thought Ammy was up there with some of the strongest beings from Darkstalkers. Hell, there was a point in my life where i thought she was the most powerful Capcom character. Guess I was wrong. I'm assuming that title would belong to Belial, right? Correct me if i'm wrong.
Originally posted by Stingerrain
Well my knowledge of Darkstalkers is a little....iffy. I've heard Jedah is stronger then Morrigan, and that Pyron is stronger then Jedah, etc. I'm not sure what to believe.And like i previously stated, I thought Ammy was up there with some of the strongest beings from Darkstalkers. Hell, there was a point in my life where i thought she was the most powerful Capcom character. Guess I was wrong. I'm assuming that title would belong to Belial, right? Correct me if i'm wrong.
It is, but I'm simply basing the tiering off of pure logical conclusions.
Demitri
Even though he absorbed Pyron, it isn't clear how much stronger he's gotten, since Pyron's full power isn't known. Logic steps in when you consider that a B+er like Demtri was able to absorb Pyron in his entirety. If the power of Pyron can be held by a B+ demon, then two B+ers or even an A+ and B+ wouldn't even be enough to scratch an S Class beast like Jedah or Morrigan. Using that logic, we can assume Demitri Empowered Pyron is still weaker than Morrigan or Jedah.
Pyron
Pyron's full power, or even close to it is still unknown. Certain games lead us to believe that Pyron does have Godly powers at his disposal that he has never used or had to use. Like universe merging, multiverse creation and universe wide time manip along with multi dimensional powers as well. However, these facts come from him at full power in a noncanon game[Capcom Fighting Jam(CFJ)]. However, this game does introduce previously unknown facts about Pyron that were not believed by many, until canon sources did reveal that CFJ was telling the truth about Pyron. A perfect example being his size. So there is some evidence that Pyron is very powerful at his highest lvls. But at the other end, in Darkstalkers official canon, logical conclusions lead to Pyron being even weaker than Jedah or Morrigan.
Jedah
Based off what we have, mountains of circumstantial evidence and assumed logic points to Jedah being far stronger than Demitri or Pyron.
Morrigan (fused with Lilith)
Morrigan is out-right stated to be the strongest amongst all the characters in the game. 2nd only to Belial.
I'm pretty sure Belail is not the strongest. Hell, Anita is hinted to be his human equivalent and there are characters like Yorae[Infinity] Dragon from BoF who created an entire multiverese and lesser Gods to rule them. Some how the Yorae Dragon was weakened and impaled with sword designed to kill him, literally called The God Slayer Sword. And he tanked it pretty easily. Then at the end of the game, he simply holds out his arm and undoes all the Gods he's created. I think he's stronger than Belial.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
. . .there are characters like Yorae[Infinity] Dragon from BoF who created an entire multiverese and lesser Gods to rule them. Some how the Yorae Dragon was weakened and impaled with sword designed to kill him, literally called The God Slayer Sword. And he tanked it pretty easily. Then at the end of the game, he simply holds out his arm and undoes all the Gods he's created.
And yet another example of WIS. The God of a multiverse with created beings capable creatin other dimensions is incorrectly summoned by man through a spell that cuts'im in 2 and severely weakens him. That should not be possible.
Originally posted by No End N Site
RYUNative Place: Japan
Birthday: July 21
3 Sizes: B112 W81 H85
Blood Type: OAiming at the "true fighting style," a young man who trains constantly day
in and day out. He journeys throughout the world searching for opponents to
battle.GUILE
Native Place: America
Birthday: December 23
3 Sizes: B125 W83 H89
Blood Type: OAt the post of the American Air Force. Skilled in handling the Martial Arts.
A unique hairstyle and a silent wrath admirable by impressive discernment.ZANGIEF
Native Place: Russia
Birthday: June 1
3 Sizes: B163 W128 H150
Blood Type: AExciting specialty throwing moves the greatest treasure of the pro wrestling
world, alias "Red Cyclone." Devoting himself to his faithful muscles of
steel, he fights unknowing of the world for the dignity of the native
country.VEGA
Native Place: Unknown
Birthday: April 17
3 Sizes: B129 W85 H91
Blood Type: ALeader of the secret organization Shadowloo. A manipulating demonic being of
the negative strength "Psycho Power." Distinguished in fighting style and to
the many who happen to meet him, he drops a viciously evil smile.GUY
Native Place: America (birthplace most likely Japan where Zeku found him)
3 Sizes: B108 W77 H82
Blood Type: O
Special Skill: bonsai (miniature tree & plant growing)A modern-day ninja (shinobi) who's the successor of what is named "bushinryu
ninjutsu." With a colorful system of line attacks, the enemy is not even
granted the coming skid.ROSE
Native Place: Italy
3 Sizes: B96 W57 H86
Blood Type: Unknown
Special Skill: tarot divinationA young beautiful woman whose self pursues Vega with her opposing strength
"Soul Power." Mysteriously admiring stares and occult ability grinds her
bewitched head-to-head opponents.SAKURA
Native Place: Setagaya-ku 2 Choume, Tokyo
3 Sizes: B80 W60 H84
Blood Type: A
Special Skill: English conversationA flying-in high school girl who tries out as she watches the street fighter
world. Aiming for the aspiring "that man," (Ryu of course) wielding an
energetic fist.KARIN
Native Place: Japan
3 Sizes: B83 W57 H85
Blood Type: B
Special Skill: various inner secrets (succession techniques) of KanzukiryuDaughter of the illustrious Kanzuki family trust. "Keeping up with
everything is sufficient for winners" being the family precept's motto,
acquisition exceeding a hundred systems of fighting arts. Until-now-rival
Kasugano Sakura is the confronting example of whom her heart seethes.ALEX
Native Place: New York
Family: Tom (Father's friend) and Patricia (Father's friend's daughter)A boiling young street fighter whose forged body draws out combat instinct.
Welling up with concentration of "what's a fighting style?" poking and
moving him, he proceeds to battle.YUN
Native Place: Shanghai (born and raised in Hong Kong)
Family: GrandfatherUser of Chinese fighting arts (kenpo) who possesses a genius fighting
sense. Through his birthplace Hong Kong, together with his younger twin
brother they're active as young leaders.URIEN
The chief of the secret organization controllers of the concealed society
since the B.C. era, "Lord" Gill's younger brother. Worthy to reign on his
own, bare fisted hatred inside.CHUN-LI
Native Place: China
Birthday: March 1, 1968
Height: 170 cm
Weight: SecretUnder ICPO's Special Investigations Division. At one time pursuing her
father's circumstances, she alone challenges the drug rings. Those foot
moves fluently win with immense crushing power.LEO
Native Place: Guridea
Age: 35 years
Height: 218 cm
Weight: 125 kgLong since the antiquated times of the country's myth, Leo is Guridea's
king. The case of his appearance and body being that of half beast,
suspiciousness and dignity don't roll away.MUKURO
Native Place: Jipangu
Age: 28 years
Height: 178 cm
Weight: 65 kgTaught in the "oniwabanshu" style rendered loyal to the Tokugawa Shogunate,
head of the Ramon (silk gate) family. With frank and quick-witted form
techniques, a nefarious object flashing around.NOOL
Race: Krakhen
Self styled in the "Divine Ocean Beast," an ocean creature living in the
North Sea river basin. Has no doubt that he can rule over the oceans in the
world on his own. Carries an enormous trident as a weapon.HAUZER
Race: Asdragon
The Guridea region's legendary "divine dragon" in the flesh. An
earth-shakingly large build and equally hot flame attack is certainly its
best.DEMITRI
Native Place: Romania
Year of Birth: 1483
Height: 197 cm
Weight: 101 kgAlias "Torturous nobleman of the Demon Realm (Makai)." Dwells in the
courteous manner toward the true nature of Demons. Possesses the ability of
prominence over even the Demon Realm.FELICIA
Native Place: America
Year of Birth: 1967
Height: 168 cm
Weight: 58 kg (in cat form 4.1 kg)A girl of the Catwoman Race dreaming of musical stardom. Troubled with a
childhood of misfortune, she comes upon bright fun battles.ANAKARIS
Native Place: Egypt
Year of Birth: 2664 B.C.
Height: 270 cm
Weight: 500 g - 500 kgPreviously the king of a glorious proud millennial empire, after death the
nation fell to ruin. With time passing, he revived with acquired
supernatural abilities. With miraculous techniques he worms through the
spirits of his opponents.JEDAH
Native Place: Demon Realm (Makai)
Year of Birth: 4045 B.C.
Height: 216 cm
Weight: 12 kg - 1002 kgThe Demon Realm's torturous Dhoma family's legitimate child. As with Demitri
his origin is from the Dark. He devises a plan for the world's stability
through unifying all souls to himself.PYRON
A giant midair wandering Space Alien. As for the true form it largely
surpasses the Milky Way. With a lengthy endless life ahead, he arrives to
summon the present warriors for battle, distracting him from his one-time
boredom. Twisting and distorting space, he possesses the ability to create a
different world.INGRID
From a sweet appearance she calls out her mysterious "abilities" to make fun
of her opponents. The purposes of her birth, fight, and so on are wrapped in
mystery.*BONUS* INGRID'S BIO FROM STREET FIGHTER ZERO 3 DOUBLE UPPER (STREET FIGHTER
ALPHA 3 MAX IN THE US)INGRID
THREE SIZES
B 2.6 FT
W 1.8 FT
H 2.6 FT
FROM: ?PERSONAL DATA:
HEIGHT: 5.O FT.
WEIGHT: 85 LBS.
BLOOD TYPE: ?Ingrid. A white haired beauty clad in mysterious aura. She is in a
hurry... She has a problem that must be fixed fast. She is dashing towards
ominous clouds covering the Earth. "I've got to get it back before something
terrible happens!"
You know what I was thinking? Pyron is indeed fully capable of what he did in CFJ in canon. Read all the profiles, what is stated in these bios that is not true in canon? Find one inconsistency.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Demitri tanked time-space busting and can prance around in one million degree temps without breaking a single bead of sweat. To make things worse, at 80% of his own power, he was capable of absorbing 400,000 light years of cosmic energy and was then capable of easily containing it.
Morrigan with Lilith is not higher than Jedah.
That's just Morrigan with 2/3 of her power, when she was at full power she was an S class which is comparable to Jedah but she was still lower since she had no idea how to control her powers.
The Order is (No. 1&2 are on par but I put Demitri higher since beat her in Vampire Saviour):
1. Morrigan (post Lilith fusion)
2. Demitri (post Pyron fusion)
3. Pyron
4. Jedah.
Ammy gets some difficulty getting past 3 but stops at 4.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
It is, but I'm simply basing the tiering off of pure logical conclusions.Demitri
Even though he absorbed Pyron, it isn't clear how much stronger he's gotten, since Pyron's full power isn't known. Logic steps in when you consider that a B+er like Demtri was able to absorb Pyron in his entirety. If the power of Pyron can be held by a B+ demon, then two B+ers or even an A+ and B+ wouldn't even be enough to scratch an S Class beast like Jedah or Morrigan. Using that logic, we can assume Demitri Empowered Pyron is still weaker than Morrigan or Jedah.Pyron
Pyron's full power, or even close to it is still unknown. Certain games lead us to believe that Pyron does have Godly powers at his disposal that he has never used or had to use. Like universe merging, multiverse creation and universe wide time manip along with multi dimensional powers as well. However, these facts come from him at full power in a noncanon game[Capcom Fighting Jam(CFJ)]. However, this game does introduce previously unknown facts about Pyron that were not believed by many, until canon sources did reveal that CFJ was telling the truth about Pyron. A perfect example being his size. So there is some evidence that Pyron is very powerful at his highest lvls. But at the other end, in Darkstalkers official canon, logical conclusions lead to Pyron being even weaker than Jedah or Morrigan.Jedah
Based off what we have, mountains of circumstantial evidence and assumed logic points to Jedah being far stronger than Demitri or Pyron.Morrigan (fused with Lilith)
Morrigan is out-right stated to be the strongest amongst all the characters in the game. 2nd only to Belial.I'm pretty sure Belail is not the strongest. Hell, Anita is hinted to be his human equivalent and there are characters like Yorae[Infinity] Dragon from BoF who created an entire multiverese and lesser Gods to rule them. Some how the Yorae Dragon was weakened and impaled with sword designed to kill him, literally called The God Slayer Sword. And he tanked it pretty easily. Then at the end of the game, he simply holds out his arm and undoes all the Gods he's created. I think he's stronger than Belial.
Again Morrigan fused with Lilith is only 2/3 of her power and she was an S class when at full power; which is still lower than Belial Aensland who is an S+.
Anita is considered equal to Jedah not Belial.
Demitri only absorbed Mortal form Pyron.
True Pyron is stated by canon to be able to grow more than 400, 000 light years which is larger than the Milky Way Galaxy.
Although http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/c/ds3vh.htm
Jedah's soul manipulation is so powerful that he could do that to Pyron.
Belial's is higher since he split an S class Morrigan's soul in to 3.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Demitri absorbed Pyron in his Mortal Form NOT full size.Morrigan with Lilith is not higher than Jedah.
That's just Morrigan with 2/3 of her power, when she was at full power she was an S class which is comparable to Jedah but she was still lower since she had no idea how to control her powers.The Order is (No. 1&2 are on par but I put Demitri higher since beat her in Vampire Saviour):
1. Morrigan (post Lilith fusion)
2. Demitri (post Pyron fusion)
3. Pyron
4. Jedah.Ammy gets some difficulty getting past 3 but stops at 4.
He still absorbed all of Pyron. Pyron no longer exists. It's like absorbin Goku in his normal state, and sayin he gains none of Goku's SSJ power. Makes no sense.
Yes she is. She was labeled S Class as an infant. Jedah's S Class as a 4000 years old demon. Belail wouldn't apoint a being who could be rivaled by the lesser S Class nobles. She is describe as being nigh-omnipotent, something not said of Jedah by Belail. Morrigan would decimate Jedah. It is even blatantly stated in official books that Morrigan is the strongest of all Darkstalkers.
Your order tier is massively incorrect and Demitri's ending in Savior is not canon, since we know Morrigan's ending is.
Ammy won't beat Demitri.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Again Morrigan fused with Lilith is only 2/3 of her power and she was an S class when at full power; which is still lower than Belial Aensland who is an S+.Anita is considered equal to Jedah not Belial.
Demitri only absorbed Mortal form Pyron.
It is never stated that Morrigan is only at 2/3 of her power at the end of Savior, nor is that stated in any source books. Facts say 1/3 or her power is with Belial, no sources say it was lost at all, so it is safe to assume her power was returned upon Belial's death.
Anita is not considered equal to Jedah, no source says this. She is hinted to be the God of humans as Belial/100% Morrigan is the God of demons. That is why Jedah is weary of her existence.
He still absorbed all of Pyron. Pyron no longer exists. It's like absorbin Goku in his normal state, and sayin he gains none of Goku's SSJ power. Makes no sense.
Originally posted by No End N Site
He still absorbed [b]all of Pyron. Pyron no longer exists. It's like absorbin Goku in his normal state, and sayin he gains none of Goku's SSJ power. Makes no sense.Yes she is. She was labeled S Class as an infant. Jedah's S Class as a 4000 years old demon. Belail wouldn't apoint a being who could be rivaled by the lesser S Class nobles. She is describe as being nigh-omnipotent, something not said of Jedah by Belail. Morrigan would decimate Jedah. It is even blatantly stated in official books that Morrigan is the strongest of all Darkstalkers.
Your order tier is massively incorrect and Demitri's ending in Savior is not canon, since we know Morrigan's ending is.
Ammy won't beat Demitri.
It is never stated that Morrigan is only at 2/3 of her power at the end of Savior, nor is that stated in any source books. Facts say 1/3 or her power is with Belial, no sources say it was lost at all, so it is safe to assume her power was returned upon Belial's death.
Anita is not considered equal to Jedah, no source says this. She is hinted to be the God of humans as Belial/100% Morrigan is the God of demons. That is why Jedah is weary of her existence.
He still absorbed all of Pyron. Pyron no longer exists. It's like absorbin Goku in his normal state, and sayin he gains none of Goku's SSJ power. Makes no sense. [/B]
So you're speculating that Demitri can grow up to 400, 000 lightyears? Speculation does not equal facts plus Super Buu absorbed Gotenks yet couldn't(or at least didn't) turn SSJ. Hmmm...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583725-darkstalkers/faqs/25007
Look under Lilith's profile:
" When Belial died, the sealed off power was supposed to return to it's rightful owner. Once this was complete, the next ruler of Makai was supposed to be born, as Belial foresaw it. But because the part which Belial contained had been lost, Morrigan's power had not returned to 100%. "
Source for Morrigan stated as the strongest Darkstalker?
Source for Morrigan stated as Nigh Omnipotent?????????
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
So you're speculating that Demitri can grow up to 400, 000 lightyears? Speculation does not equal facts plus Super Buu absorbed Gotenks yet couldn't(or at least didn't) turn SSJ. Hmmm...http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/583725-darkstalkers/faqs/25007
Look under Lilith's profile:
" When Belial died, the sealed off power was supposed to return to it's rightful owner. Once this was complete, the next ruler of Makai was supposed to be born, as Belial foresaw it. But because the part which Belial contained had been lost, Morrigan's power had not returned to 100%. "
I never stated that Demtiri gained Pyron's abilities, only his lvl of power. How can Buu go SSJ, he's not a Saiyin, but I assure you he had SSJ power, that's why he beat Mystic Gohan.
Point taken about Morri losing 1/3 of her power. Forgot about that.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Source for Morrigan stated as the strongest Darkstalker?
Faq and/or the Graphic File
Belial foresaw that Makai would be exposed to the crisis of perishing soon.
Someone with great power/Life form would be needed to maintain the unbalanced
world of Makai. He foresaw that one which such power would not be born in the
family of Aensland for another 1,200 years. Knowing this, he decided to leave
the future of the Aensland family in Morrigan's hands. To Belial, the future of
the Aensland family was the same as the future of Makai.
Morrigan was a very special Succubus(even within all of the darkstalkers).
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Source for Morrigan stated as Nigh Omnipotent?????????
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Demitri absorbed Pyron in his Mortal Form NOT full size.
This has just been covered.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Morrigan with Lilith is not higher than Jedah.
That's just Morrigan with 2/3 of her power, when she was at full power she was an S class which is comparable to Jedah but she was still lower since she had no idea how to control her powers.
When she is at full power, she is not "comparable", she is greatly beyond Jedah and 2nd to Belail. When fused with Lilith she is still beyond Jedah, which explains his inability to attack her directly and must resort to schemes to get her power in his control.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
The Order is (No. 1&2 are on par but I put Demitri higher since beat her in Vampire Saviour):1. Morrigan (post Lilith fusion)
2. Demitri (post Pyron fusion)
3. Pyron
4. Jedah.
Erroneous, I had the order right the 1st time.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Again Morrigan fused with Lilith is only 2/3 of her power and she was an S class when at full power; which is still lower than Belial Aensland who is an S+.
Already been covered
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Anita is considered equal to Jedah not Belial.
This has also been covered
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
Demitri only absorbed Mortal form Pyron.
True Pyron is stated by canon to be able to grow more than 400, 000 light years which is larger than the Milky Way Galaxy.
Although http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/c/ds3vh.htm
Jedah's soul manipulation is so powerful that he could do that to Pyron.
Belial's is higher since he split an S class Morrigan's soul in to 3.
This topic has been covered, as well. It would also be good to remind you that Pyron's size has nothing to do with his power or powers.
Originally posted by No End N Site
2nd Panel.
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Also I knew you'd use that Graphic file as the source, hell it's even in the link I posted before.
Look just because it says "Special" doesn't mean strongest or most powerful just means special since she was born an S class right?
But just because she was born an S class doesn't mean we should assume she increased to S+ when grown up at 2/3 of her power.
Hell, Jedah's class has never been confirmed to be lowered when weakened after Ozom betrayed him.
And since you like using non canon evidence I'd say Anita is still lower than Belial since Jedah owned her in the manga.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
When she is at full power, she is not "comparable", she is greatly beyond Jedah and 2nd to Belail. When fused with Lilith she is still beyond Jedah, which explains his inability to attack her directly and must resort to schemes to get her power in his control.This topic has been covered, as well. It would also be good to remind you that Pyron's size has nothing to do with his power or powers.
Oh right so I guess Mortal Pyron is a Non corporeal being that is Millions of times Faster Than Light, can pull Planets out of their orbit and wear them as jewellery?