No, it is you who Actually needs to research harder. Pyron has shown the ability to shrink and teleport. The fact that he can do this move over and over with the same constellations is the only game-Play mechanic.
And I can qoute to you actually saying the garbage above yourself as it actually being possible. So, please, check yourself.
I used to believe it.
Until I actually got a look at your evidence.
Now, I am well aware of the flaws in your reasoning.
He can shrink and teleport?
No shit.
But prove that he is doing that on a galactic scale, show me where it says that he actually shrinks and teleports said galaxy.
Since NOWHERE in the scan I posted was that supported.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I used to believe it.Until I actually got a look at your evidence.
Now, I am well aware of the flaws in your reasoning.
He can shrink and teleport?
No shit.
Since NOWHERE in the scan I posted was that supported.
What?! He shrinks himself an teleports himself around and he's billions of miles larger than the objects in question. None of those constellations are even close to Pyron in size? Like the biggest one is the size of a basketball to'im. Are you now sayin that when he shrinks, objects he has in his power are no longer in his power?
I remember when cats use to reach just to hit a joint, now foos reach just make a point.
Originally posted by NemeBro
But prove that he is doing that on a galactic scale, show me where it says that he actually shrinks and teleports said galaxy.
1. He shrinks himself to an incredibly small size, he's much bigger than the objects in question.
2. He's shown to be able to shrink planets, already.
3. He makes crushing things like stars sound painfully easy, even in mini form.
4. There is literaly no evidence presented in the scan that states he makes a replica of anything. lol
Common sense leads mindful men to believe, he is capable. Burden of proof is on you. You and yur pals are the ones givin the thing abilities he's not said to have. We only use the powers he is stated to have to already, to come to a conclusion. If Pyron can replicate stars and galaxies now, wonder what else he could make. Like man sized black holes and gamma ray burst, the force of such things, even on that scale is unsurvivable and inescapable 🙂
Originally posted by NemeBro
Full power Pyron being galactic+ in scale is fine, and very accurate.Mortal Pyron? Not seeing any proof for that.
lol What are "Mortal" Pyron's power limits, pleez tell me. Besides beat Demitri, what can he not do? I would love to know. Where does Pyron's power end, when small.
So tell me, when Pyron is small, can he shrink the Moon? Keep in mind, Pyron does have the basic ability to force celestial objects in an orbital path around him. This is clearly stated.
Originally posted by No End N Site
No problem and sorry to say, but you linked us to a mass of dudes (maybe some chicks) who lacked the proper knowledge of the series.1. Pyron's Cosmo Disruption isn't a feat. It's special move.
2. Pyron's 400k LY in size. The Milky Way is 100,000 light years in size. He's 4X larger than the Milky Way. But the Milky Way is considered a [b]very large
galaxy. Most galaxies in the universe are only around 10k LY in size. Pyron is about 40X larger than the average galaxy. So summonin a galaxy that' 30LY around would be easy for him to do.3. No one even explained how it was just "gameplay". It was as if no one had even seen the move before. 😆 People are tryin to debate games that they've never even played. . .or seen. Lmbao
When you don't hold down the buttons
When you do hold down the buttons.
He does an even stronger version of the move.
And here's even a pic of an explodin galaxy, notice the disc, just like in Pyron's move.
He summons the constellations to the battle field and they explode. Not to mention that when he's electrified, you can see stars and galaxies inside him as his skeleton. And here's a pro tip, constellations are made up of stars, but from a distance, galaxies and even planets can look like stars, thus you have galaxies and planets as part of constellations. S if from a distance, a galaxy can look like a star, when it is shrunken, a a galaxy will look like a star as well. Thus stars in constellations that aint really stars are called stars anyway. [/B]
How much of the thread have you read?
Because this pretty much sums it up:
"The fact that it says "holding down the buttons" is a big hint, but even if you ignore that there's the wording saying that stars "appear and cycle through the constellations" - what does that even mean? They physically move through those constellations? They arrange themselves to look like those constellations? The Big Dipper is composed of 7 stars. How a galaxy would transform into 7 stars is beyond me."
And see that's where you're wrong they are very familiar with Darkstalkers.
Although you might be right where you said they lack proper knowledge since they're the ones who think Jedah's goal is to "reset reality" and "reset the known universe" and blah blah blah etc.
But they pretty much know whether somethings legit or not when it comes to evaluating/assessing feats.
Such as Ichigo's "Mountain Slicing" feat; turns out that "Mountain" was only the size of a city block. 😆
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Another thing I found that runs rampant in that discussion is this need to place imaginary limits on Mini Pyron. It is stated that his shrunken form is limited, but never states to any degree.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
How much of the thread have you read?
Because this pretty much sums it up:
"The fact that it says "holding down the buttons" is a big hint, but even if you ignore that there's the wording saying that stars "appear and cycle through the constellations" - what does that even mean? They physically move through those constellations? They arrange themselves to look like those constellations? The Big Dipper is composed of 7 stars. How a galaxy would transform into 7 stars is beyond me."And see that's where you're wrong they are very familiar with Darkstalkers.
Although you might be right where you said they lack proper knowledge since they're the ones who think Jedah's goal is to "reset reality" and "reset the known universe" and blah blah blah etc.But they pretty much know whether somethings legit or not when it comes to evaluating/assessing feats.
Such as Ichigo's "Mountain Slicing" feat; turns out that "Mountain" was only the size of a city block. 😆
How much of this thread have you read?
That bit you quoted doesn't even mean anything. You gotta hold down buttons to do Sakura's full fireball, that doesn't change what the move is described as. Which is a blast of chi. I don't know what point that paragraph was tryin to make, but it wasn't a very good one.
No where near close to "familiar" as me, which is my point.
😂 Not in this case, clearly. You can't just make stuff up on the fly. The scan states he summons the stars of 3 different constellations. He is shown effortlessly shrinkin planets and has the ability to teleport vast distances, to say that Triangulum he summons is a replica is saying more than what's stated. You have to prove that shit. Not only that, they say Pyron can't because. . .? What? Why can't he do it again? Given everything we know, why would mini Pyron be incapable? Bullshit.
Originally posted by No End N Site
How much of [b]this thread have you read?That bit you quoted doesn't even mean anything. You gotta hold down buttons to do Sakura's full fireball, that doesn't change what the move is described as. Which is a blast of chi. I don't know what point that paragraph was tryin to make, but it wasn't a very good one.
No where near close to "familiar" as me, which is my point.
😂 Not in this case, clearly. You can't just make stuff up on the fly. The scan states he summons the stars of 3 different constellations. He is shown effortlessly shrinkin planets and has the ability to teleport vast distances, to say that Triangulum he summons is a replica is saying more than what's stated. You have to prove that shit. Not only that, they say Pyron can't because. . .? What? Why can't he do it again? Given everything we know, why would mini Pyron be incapable? Bullshit. [/B]
1. It states 4 constellation not 3.
2. That Paragraph made an excellent point; why would 4 constellations transform into seven stars?
3. Shrinking planets isn't the same as shrinking stars is it? Again you're using speculation; this time from gameplay mechanics.
4. I have read this thread, speaking of which: can you give me a link on Infinity Dragon from Breath of Fire? I can't seem to find anything on him being Multiversal.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
1. It states 4 constellation not 3.2. That Paragraph made an excellent point; why would 4 constellations transform into seven stars?
3. Shrinking planets isn't the same as shrinking stars is it? Again you're using speculation; this time from gameplay mechanics.
4. I have read this thread, speaking of which: can you give me a link on Infinity Dragon from Breath of Fire? I can't seem to find anything on him being Multiversal.
1. Does not matter.
2. Because constellations are made up of stars.
3. What?! It doesn't matter, he's shown the ability to shrink celestial objects. So again, you're reachin. Stop it. Clearly you aint readin' shit cuz you question him shrinkin objects he is dozens of times larger than. If you aint gonna read what I post, then I'm gonna have to cancel this discussion.
4. Sorry pal, BOF is one of those games yur gonna have to play in order to know, somethin most of you should do, but don't and it's a damn shame.
Originally posted by No End N Site
lol What are "Mortal" Pyron's power limits, pleez tell me. Besides beat Demitri, what can he [b]not do? I would love to know. Where does Pyron's power end, when small.So tell me, when Pyron is small, can he shrink the Moon? Keep in mind, Pyron does have the basic ability to force celestial objects in an orbital path around him. This is clearly stated. [/B]
This is hilarious.
So we should assume galaxy busting because... We don't know the exact limits of Mortal Pyron's power?
Your argument is ****ing insane, I can't even follow the logic you allegedly used to concoct it.
No, prove beyond a doubt that Pyron can do what you claim, because based on that scan, it would be foolish to so readily claim such.
Ya'know what. It's shit like this that rips away the last shreds of respect I have for KMC. This is so phuckin stupid. But ya'know what, that's fine. In fact, since we're gonna use mentally deficient child-logic, might as well go uniform with it.
Even though Akuma is stated to be able to do the SGS and he states,
Akuma in SFA3
"The Raging Demon... Its power is unequal... It is not my fists, but your past sins that will kill you... The more evil your past doings, the more painful your death..."
We'll just assume that's hyperbole and. . .
Since the move goes black, and we can't see anything, we'll just assume Akuma calls up a gang of his buds to pound the livin shit outta you.
Even tho the bellow theory rings true in almost way, because this theory is never officially stated in any source
SF Wiki
The Shun Goku Satsu is revealed to be linked with Akuma's design. His design inspiration came from the Nio, the twin, wrath filled guardians of the Buddha (which are seen in some of Akuma's stages in various Street Fighter games). In some Buddhist beliefs, there are sixteen hells which punish the soul, eight of fire and eight of ice. The Shun Goku Satsu is the channeling of these sixteen hells to the opponent's soul through the user's soul, which in gameplay is displayed as fifteen hit sparks and, provided that the opponent's health is low enough, he/she will die in the final hell which is displayed as fire and the "ten" kanji symbol in some games. Due to the fact that sixteen hells are being channelled through the user to destroy the opponent's soul, the user is put at immense risk - if the user fails to maintain a Zen state of mind throughout the course of the technique, it will backfire and turn the punishment of the sixteen hells on the user.
We'll just go with the screen goin black and Akuma just kicks the shit outta you. Despite all the canon evidence of the above theory being true, we'll just go with this one cuz. . .I guess it's easier to explain? F**k all the evidence, he only "replicates" the feelin of death. We wont have to explain why Akuma can't do what the normal, intelligent human being would assume, given his character description. No one's smart enough to ask why you would think Akuma would not be capable of extreme other worldly attacks, given all his other wild super natural abilities. We're too use to debatin scrubs and bein debate scrubs, we don't think that far ahead.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
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The evidence is there to back the claim, as stated numerous times. YOU ARE INVENTING CHARACTER DETAILS TO EXPLAIN CLEAR EVIDENCE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU.The fact that this has to be explained repeatedly for a page and a half is simply shameful.
Even tho there is, at least, some very clear evidence that validates our correct claim, we'll go with the hatah'z theory they base off of nothin.
Stupid as shit, I know, but that's what flies around this camp.
😆 😂 🤣
Originally posted by No End N Site
1. Does not matter.2. Because constellations [b]are made up of stars
.3. What?! It doesn't matter, he's shown the ability to shrink celestial objects. So again, you're reachin. Stop it. Clearly you aint readin' shit cuz you question him shrinkin objects he is dozens of times larger than. If you aint gonna read what I post, then I'm gonna have to cancel this discussion.
4. Sorry pal, BOF is one of those games yur gonna have to play in order to know, somethin most of you should do, but don't and it's a damn shame. [/B]
1. Just saying.
2. But only the Big Dipper has 7 stars; does he only summon the big dipper?
3. He's larger than them in his True form yes, but not his Mini form.
4. I wasn't questioning you, I was only curious. But since you want be so stuck up about it I'll play the game. Which Breath of Fire?
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
2. But only the Big Dipper has 7 stars; does he only summon the big dipper?3. He's larger than them in his True form yes, but not his Mini form.
4. I wasn't questioning you, I was only curious. But since you want be so stuck up about it I'll play the game. Which Breath of Fire?
2. YES! Depending on how long you hold the buttons down, he'll summon the constellations with the appropriate amount of stars. As you can see in the 1st gif, when not holding down anything, he summons the Triangulum, which only has 2 stars and a galaxy. When Holding down the buttons too the max, he makes the big dipper, as seen in the 2nd gif.
3. He has the constellations "in his power", is what we're trying to illustrate. Once he consumes the stars or galaxies or use his power to will their orbit to him, even if he his small, he still has control over them. Why would he not? And even if they are not the actual constellations, Pyron has lived long enough and is large enough to have acquired the stars and galaxies to make "replicas" made out of REAL stars and galaxies already inside him.
4. There's a website called DragonTear.net, I think. I believe it only has some of the game book info, not sure. However, the manga tells the entire story word for word.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/utsurowazarumono_breath_of_five_iv/
However, despite the game being made a decade ago, the manga has only recently been finished, thus it hasn't all been translated. Luckily, they're almost done. It's in its last chapters.
Originally posted by No End N Site
Ya'know what. It's shit like this that rips away the last shreds of respect I have for KMC. This is so phuckin stupid. But ya'know what, that's fine. In fact, since we're gonna use mentally deficient child-logic, might as well go uniform with it.Even though Akuma is stated to be able to do the SGS and he states,
We'll just assume that's hyperbole and. . .
Since the move goes black, and we can't see anything, we'll just assume Akuma calls up a gang of his buds to pound the livin shit outta you.
Even tho the bellow theory rings true in almost way, because this theory is never officially stated in any source
We'll just go with the screen goin black and Akuma just kicks the shit outta you. Despite all the canon evidence of the above theory being true, we'll just go with this one cuz. . .I guess it's easier to explain? F**k all the evidence, he only "replicates" the feelin of death. We wont have to explain why Akuma can't do what the normal, intelligent human being would assume, given his character description. No one's smart enough to ask why you would think Akuma would not be capable of extreme other worldly attacks, given all his other wild super natural abilities. We're too use to debatin scrubs and bein debate scrubs, we don't think that far ahead.
Even tho there is, at least, some [b]very
clear evidence that validates our correct claim, we'll go with the hatah'z theory they base off of nothin.Stupid as shit, I know, but that's what flies around this camp.
😆 😂 🤣 [/B]
Sadly, this is what the logic suggested to us would entail. This is true.I don't know how you could get away with this, especially when you apply it to other characters.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
2. YES! Depending on how long you hold the buttons down, he'll summon the constellations with the appropriate amount of stars. As you can see in the 1st gif, when not holding down anything, he summons the Triangulum, which only has 2 stars and a galaxy. When Holding down the buttons too the max, he makes the big dipper, as seen in the 2nd gif.3. He has the constellations "in his power", is what we're trying to illustrate. Once he consumes the stars or galaxies or use his power to will their orbit to him, even if he his small, he still has control over them. Why would he not? And even if they are not the actual constellations, Pyron has lived long enough and is large enough to have acquired the stars and galaxies to make "replicas" made out of REAL stars and galaxies already inside him.
4. There's a website called DragonTear.net, I think. I believe it only has some of the game book info, not sure. However, the manga tells the entire story word for word.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/utsurowazarumono_breath_of_five_iv/
However, despite the game being made a decade ago, the manga has only recently been finished, thus it hasn't all been translated. Luckily, they're almost done. It's in its last chapters.
Sadly, this is what the logic suggested to us would entail. This is true.I don't know how you could get away with this, especially when you apply it to other characters.
2. Oh so what about the two other constellations?
3. So I think I just about agree that the only game mechanic is that Pyron does it over and over.
4. That DragonTear.net had nothing to do with BOF lol.
Which chapter explains Infinity Dragon's backgound story with him being the creator and such?
Also the difference between SGS and Cosmo Disruption is that SGS was in the official storyline while Cosmo Disruption was in gameplay only and the non canon OVA.
Originally posted by 786SalamKhan
I wasn't questioning you, I was only curious. But since you want be so stuck up about it I'll play the game. Which Breath of Fire?
I'm not being "stuck up", I'm just annoyed at the fact that you keep askin me questions, I give you answers, and then you come back and tell me I'm wrong cuz of what some dudes, who probably don't even know what console Vampire Hunter is on, tells you.
So yeah, don't ask me, just ask them.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Just because neither of you are intelligent enough to use reason to support your "Mortal Pyron busts galaxies" argument doesn't mean you have to throw a hissyfit No End.
Not intelligent enough? Hissyfit? Oh what an insult! But just so you know, a sharp tongue is no indication of a keen mind, friend.