Who Can Break Mjolnir's Enchantment?

Started by janus778 pages

Hulk could very well do it. Crushing and over powering The Serpent's mallet wasn't too difficult, so why not.

Also, Savage Hulk found a fun way to utilise Mjolnir, so maybe all it takes is to use Thor as a meat-glove?

Another point, Rulk casually bashed away with it too in space, so gravity can affect it too.

Lol, Hulk isn't overpowering Mjolnir's worthy enchantment.

Gravity can affect it to but there's was something more in play there though. Odin's death weakened the enchantment or whatever. There was a similar occurrence during Thomas' run but that wasn't intended to be a problem in Thor's main book.

Man, Loeb pissed me off with his blatant disregard for continuity. At least some writers pretend they care.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, Hulk isn't overpowering Mjolnir's worthy enchantment.

Gravity can affect it to but there's was something more in play there though. Odin's death weakened the enchantment or whatever. There was a similar occurrence during Thomas' run but that wasn't intended to be a problem in Thor's main book.

Man, Loeb pissed me off with his blatant disregard for continuity. At least some writers pretend they care.

That didn't make much sense, unless of course Rulk had thrown Mjolnir to the Lagrange point....but gravity is still an issue, even in space.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed, that was what I was thinking about with regards to the crane. If you had a robot operating the crane's controls, perhaps it might have been able to lift it. Magneto has also done it, but of course, that was using his powers, not brute force.

Yeah I can remember somebody (Cobra and Hyde?) lifting it in the early days using a crane. But it was supposed to be some sort of super atomic crane, as if the strength of the crane was a factor!

So maybe a robot with a regular crane or superhuman with atomic crane can do it.

I wonder if Machine Man, Ultron, Vision, etc can just pick it up?

That dude who busted inertron?

Juggernaut - if the adamantium floor had enough of a groove in it to give him the space to start his arm moving beneath the hammer, would his unstoppable momentum be able to pick the hammer up?

Can Magneto or Graviton pick it up from the ground when not in flight? What if Graviton cancelled gravity around it so it was exactly weightless on the ground (not actually floating). Could he then pick it up the way Red Hulk did in space? Not strictly by strength I know, but...

Also, Amazo, and by extension, could Vixen do it back when she was mimicking her team mates? Black Alice?

A high end hector hall might do it by outright breaking odin's enchants.

I had asked this once before and never got an answer (at least, as far as I remember): what if the hammer were floating in space? If someone grabbed it, would Mjolnir continue to drift as if no one was there? Isn't the point of the enchantment, ultimately, that no one can use Mjolnir (the "can't lift it" is just a familiar expression of that rule, but it should not to be taken so literally)?

Originally posted by Mindship
I had asked this once before and never got an answer (at least, as far as I remember): what if the hammer were floating in space? If someone grabbed it, would Mjolnir continue to drift as if no one was there? Isn't the point of the enchantment, ultimately, that no one can use Mjolnir (the "can't lift it" is just a familiar expression of that rule, but it should not to be taken so literally)?
This reminds me of a d&d scenario where a party purchased quite a few immovable rods to completely break the game. They basically eluded all obstacles using the rods until the dm decied enough of these shennanigans and had them fixed in space so as the planet moved they were left behind. End result used them as siege weapons because of the speed the planet moving through space and rotating basically meant that anything hitting them was moving at a ridiculous pace by comparison.

Red Hulk lifted in space because there was no gravity, so anyone with low level gravity manip should be able to do the same thing on a planet right? That's a long list...

Didn't Rulk grab it while it was still inThor's hand?
To get around the enchantment with a gravity loophole...I dunno, kind of defeats the point of the enchantment, making the "can't lift it" too literal.

Originally posted by Mindship
Didn't Rulk grab it while it was still inThor's hand?
To get around the enchantment with a gravity loophole...I dunno, kind of defeats the point of the enchantment, making the "can't lift it" too literal.

No...Rulk grabbed it...beat on Thor with it...spinner it and then flew with it to the moon while having Thor in his other arm.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gabriel the Air walker lifted it. He was a robot.

A machine can't be worthy or unworthy, so it makes sense...

A machine shouldn't be able to tap into it's powers, though.

True. I guess it mustn't have a soul? So Red Tornado cannot, nor can the Vision, but a Doombot/Amazo can?

The question is

Is the enchantment stronger than the durability of the hammer itself?
Meaning, will the hammer break in pieces if someone was strong enough?

If the durability is stronger then WBH, Superman (at highest showings), etc. can lift it.

Originally posted by Mindship
Didn't Rulk grab it while it was still inThor's hand?

To get around the enchantment with a gravity loophole...I dunno, kind of defeats the point of the enchantment, making the "can't lift it" too literal.

Yeah, grabbing the hammer while Thor's hanging on, I can see.

The gravity thing, that's just stupid.

Physically no one can, even Marvels editor has said so.

Originally posted by carver9
No...Rulk grabbed it...beat on Thor with it...spinner it and then flew with it to the moon while having Thor in his other arm.

Ugh, I completely forgot about that.

Not only did he wrest Mjolnir from his hand, he actually used it's power (I recall lightning strikes) and flew with it.

It's best to just completely ignore the Rulk incident. It made no sense.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ugh, I completely forgot about that.

Not only did he wrest Mjolnir from his hand, he actually used it's power (I recall lightning strikes) and flew with it.

It's best to just completely ignore the Rulk incident. It made no sense.

Da**...lightning did come from it. I agree, this should be ignored...the writer clearly wasn't thinking when he wrote that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ugh, I completely forgot about that.

Not only did he wrest Mjolnir from his hand, he actually used it's power (I recall lightning strikes) and flew with it.

It's best to just completely ignore the Rulk incident. It made no sense.

Perhaps he absorbed Thor`s worthiness along with odin force 😱

Originally posted by Mshinu
Perhaps he absorbed Thor`s worthiness along with odin force 😱

You jest, but didn't Rogue do that once?