Define Atheism

Originally posted by Daredevil1
IMO 3,4,5 is Atheism. 1,2 is Agnostic. What do you think about some of the Atheists that say they are "Agnostic Atheist"?

There is much debate on these labels now a days, that's for sure.

IMO to many different ideas or varying degrees for a word, take away the definition of a word.

You can be unsure and thus suspend judgment, but you can also forgo claiming knowledge while still taking a stand (ie "I don't know if a God does or doesn't exist but I feel like the assumption that he does is a bigger logical leap than to assume he doesn't", I think that's closer to atheist than agnostic)

Originally posted by Nietzschean
And how you view it personally.

I dont know how many people know this but Atheism was initially used to describe early Christians during the Roman Empire. I like to know what exactly was its original definition and how did it come to have its modern meaning.

if anyone can answer that, i would be very grateful.

I also like to discuss if you think Atheism is an absolute belief in no deity whatsoever or do you just think it is default position going neither way.

I often tell certain ppl of certain beliefs that I am an atheist in regards to their specific religion and god.

I dont consider myself an agnostic I just try not to speak on a religious subject I dont know about. I try to explain that me not having an opinion on their obscure religion or their definition of their god does not make me agnostic in the same way I am not anti certain animals that i am not aware of that may exist.

If a religion says their religious leader who is flesh and blood is a god than he is your god not mine and I dont think I am going to argue semantics b/c of what your religion constitutes a god.

On the other hand if your religion states what your god must be and he, she or it fails to meet its own criteria than I will say that is not a god even by your standard let alone me worshiping it if did exist.

okay, i think i ranted long enough.. i like to hear your opinion and views.
discuss...

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Define Atheism? Atheism is an act of blasphemy, if someone were to blaspheme God that wouldn't be any different from blaspheming the holy bible, and both of those crimes are unforgivable to the Higher Power. And once someone has committed the crime without regret and without atonement, the higher power will put the blaspheming individual's spirit into unimaginable torture untill his spirit rips apart and destroy itself. Basically anyone who commits the crimes such as Suicide and Blasphemy will be unimaginably tortured and killed spiritually by God himself Being put into a non existent state. Im going to be laughing at all the people who say they don't believe in God or acknowledge him as the Higher power for their own ignorant reasons.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Define Atheism? Atheism is an act of blasphemy, if someone were to blaspheme God that wouldn't be any different from blaspheming the holy bible, and both of those crimes are unforgivable to the Higher Power. And once someone has committed the crime without regret and without atonement, the higher power will put the blaspheming individual's spirit into unimaginable torture untill his spirit rips apart and destroy itself. Basically anyone who commits the crimes such as Suicide and Blasphemy will be unimaginably tortured and killed spiritually by God himself Being put into a non existent state. Im going to be laughing at all the people who say they don't believe in God or acknowledge him as the Higher power for their own ignorant reasons.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So God is a dick, and his worshipers are sadistic dicks?

So much penis in this post.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So much penis in this post.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So God is a dick, and his worshipers are sadistic dicks?

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
I can tell just by this stupid reply that you are Caucasian, i guess your fate has already been sealed, in other words your dead but just don't know it yet.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So God is a dick, and his worshipers are sadistic dicks?

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
I can tell just by this stupid reply that you are Caucasian, i guess your fate has already been sealed, in other words your dead but just don't know it yet.

Sar Wars Logic the new Majid, or whatever that angry Pakistani kid was called.

He also didn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
I can tell just by this stupid reply that you are Caucasian, i guess your fate has already been sealed, in other words your dead but just don't know it yet.

your world must be so small...

Originally posted by Oliver North
your world must be so small...

A whole new world... in A-may-dee-kah.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sar Wars Logic the new Majid, or whatever that angry Pakistani kid was called.

He also didn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

You also don't know the difference between Sar and Star.

Glass house, beeotch!

derp

I can't remember if I've posted in this thread before, and I really don't care to go searching through all the pages to find out, but here it goes:

To me, "atheist" means "in denial"

"THERE ISSS NOOO GAWWD!!!"

That's atheism.

Agnostocism, although scorned by the South Park directors (their cynnacism is what makes the show so ridiculously funny so I'm not hating), is defined as "Undeniable logic."

Originally posted by Dolos
is defined as "Undeniable logic."

Q: what does every person say of their own beliefs?

Originally posted by Oliver North
Q: what does every person say of their own beliefs?

Obviously I was speaking only on behalf of my own belief, how could I have been speaking on behalf of another's?

I truly believe agnostocism is the only logical philosophy regarding the illogical way of atheism as all of the religious theisms out there. God[s] are/is imagined by humans, and used as a control mechanism, used as a coping mechanism, used as both, used for monetary motives, used for exploitation of resources and for controlled populations and many many more malevolent and benevolent causes. Religion is becoming increasingly sensitive as it's age is threatened. Anti-religion (atheism), is just as crazy of a claim - but can't be exploited or used to exploit unless to break people away from their religious groups to collapse them. I suppose logic itself could be used to do so, however in what I would consider to be a positive way.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
To me, "atheist" means "in denial"

Score 1 for me.

Originally posted by Dolos
Obviously I was speaking only on behalf of my own belief, how could I have been speaking on behalf of another's?