Abraxas versus Odin and Cyttorak

Started by Sr J-Bieb4 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
But even more than that. Did you spot Adversary? This guy challenged and beat Roma, the Omniversal Guardian. Marduk Kurios was there in a panic and he went one on one vs Chaos King (sure he lost but hey at least he put up a fight). Hell, Jesus Christ is there! 😆
Ya, I don't think that issue proves anything at all

As for Jesus... they put him in hell... I'm surprised there isn't religion freaks complaining about that.

Originally posted by zopzop
But even more than that. Did you spot Adversary? This guy challenged and beat Roma, the Omniversal Guardian. Marduk Kurios was there in a panic and he went one on one vs Chaos King (sure he lost but hey at least he put up a fight). Hell, Jesus Christ is there! 😆

Scan?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Scan?

The very top panel has : The Adversary (beat the Omniversal Guardian Roma) Satannish and Marduk Kurios (the guy that CK took on).

The middle panel has : Kazaan (a fallen angel), Chthon! and Shuma Gorath!

The bottom panel has : Jesus Christ, Mother of Pain, and what looks like Damballah (either the Set spawn or the Voodoo God)/Sliggoth/Set.

Hilarious hysterical

PS Anyone recognize any of the other demons?

Where was Cyttorak then?

Well according to the bible, Jesus went down into hell to get the keys that would allow man to enter Heaven by faith, instead of works.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I don't see Cyttorak there, but lol at Shuma Gorath, Cthon, and Set worrying about such small affairs.

Originally posted by janus77
Where was Cyttorak then?

Sorry, that was on page 7 of the comicvine thread, it wasn't showing up so I had to google it :

There goes Cyotrrak AND Dormammu! Look at the sheer number of Demon Lords all in a tizzy over the power of the Serpent (a guy Odin beat with ease)!

Originally posted by zopzop
Sorry, that was on page 7 of the comicvine thread, it wasn't showing up so I had to google it :

There goes Cyotrrak AND Dormammu! Look at the sheer number of Demon Lords all in a tizzy over the power of the Serpent (a guy Odin beat with ease)!

Half of the people in that comic would beat up Serpent. Except Cyttorak... that guy sucks.

Ah, so it doesn't explicitly state that Cyttorak's there, just some character that looks a little like him? Doesn't Cyttorak look like Juggernaut on steroids?

Originally posted by janus77
Ah, so it doesn't explicitly state that Cyttorak's there, just some character that looks a little like him? Doesn't Cyttorak look like Juggernaut on steroids?

No that's him. You can see the Ruby on his chest and everything.

Also looks like D'spayre is there, Blackheart and Hela too.

Originally posted by zopzop
No that's him. You can see the Ruby on his chest and everything.

Also looks like D'spayre is there, Blackheart and Hela too.

But it does not prove that what we saw was anything more than an astral projection of Cytorrak. How could it be him, when he is imprisoned in the Crimson Cosmos. The same could be said of all of those demons present.

Originally posted by Stoic
But it does not prove that what we saw was anything more than an astral projection of Cytorrak. How could it be him, when he is imprisoned in the Crimson Cosmos. The same could be said of all of those demons present.

But that's secondary. The whole thing was they were in fear or at least had serious concern about the Serpent and his power, other wise why would they heed Mephisto's summons?

That's what makes the writing even more sh|tty!

Originally posted by zopzop
But that's secondary. The whole thing was they were in fear or at least had serious concern about the Serpent and his power, other wise why would they heed Mephisto's summons?

That's what makes the writing even more sh|tty!

It sure does. The writer deserves to be clapped in the back of the head. Anything, and I mean anything outside of Cytorrak being stuck in that pocket universe makes no sense, outside it being an Avy of him. his bio has yet to be retconned, and how would they go about doing that? Unless some super uber nasty sorcerer dude, breaks his ass out, he's stuck. Debating him is as harder than debating Dr. Manhattan. No feats exist if we go by canonical, and contiguous continuity.

Abraxas wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
Sorry, that was on page 7 of the comicvine thread, it wasn't showing up so I had to google it :

There goes Cyotrrak AND Dormammu! Look at the sheer number of Demon Lords all in a tizzy over the power of the Serpent (a guy Odin beat with ease)!

Yea, I love the big guy as much as anyone but the way he casually slaughtered everyone on the planet, and imprisoned the Serpent (I'm assuming in the process also wiped away all memories of his existence) was a bit crazy. It's true that Odin had his sword and armor but I would have argued you needed at least two high end entities (Galactus/Odin types etc.) to take him down.

He was Odin's bigger and more powerful brother (Mostly because he chose to embrace the old ways that the All Father shunned), too bad he chocked, basically everyone was shitting themselves at his arrival and Surfer (Too bad it wasn't Galactus himself) said he threatened to surpass the Power Cosmic or whatever. I hated the retcon but there was so much potential. The only explanation I can see is that killing everyone on the Aishem (The world before Earth) weakened the Serpent. Only speculation though.

just because all those demons gathered doesnt mean one of them couldnt have beat serpent solo.

Originally posted by zopzop

The very top panel has : The Adversary (beat the Omniversal Guardian Roma)


I don't see anyone there that looks like Roma,
and she's not mentioned via name or title.

Are there more scans?

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't see anyone there that looks like Roma,
and she's not mentioned via name or title.

Are there more scans?

No I meant that the Adversary was there and he was the guy that beat Roma, the Omniversal Guardian.

All of Adversary's feats come from older X-Men books.

Is Saturnyne part of the same race as Roma?

Originally posted by zopzop

No I meant that the Adversary was there and he was the guy that beat Roma, the Omniversal Guardian.


Oh, that Adversary, that was accomplished via stipulation though.

Just sayin.