Abraxas versus Odin and Cyttorak

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Is Saturnyne part of the same race as Roma?

She's a "goddess," born of a "god" (Merlin) ...

She has no alternates other than ones she has created herself in other realities,
just like Merlin.

They're absolute and unto themselves.

No beginning explained, they just appeared one day like "Gods" in the sky and that's it.

I have Merlin in that issue saying he's like the father of creation,
and they're immortals who have always been and something to that affect.

Saturnyne isn't anything special anyway

Originally posted by Mr Master
Roma is not part of a race.

She's a "goddess," born of a "god" (Merlin) ...

She has no alternates other than ones she has created herself in other realities,
just like Merlin.

They're absolute and unto themselves.

No beginning explained, they just appeared one day like "Gods" in the sky and that's it.

I have Merlin in that issue saying he's like the father of creation,
and they're immortals who have always been and something to that affect.

Yes, yes I know, general God hype, I remember that much, it's their origins that I don't remember very well.

So Merlyn and Roma aren't part of any race/pantheon? I know Saturnyne is Roma's servant, but there's no other relation? I just don't remember any sort of divinity referenced regarding her.

all in all, fear itself was shit

that journey into mystery comic starring mephisto was dope though

Abraxas swats Odin and Cyttorak like flies.

Originally posted by zopzop
No that's him. You can see the Ruby on his chest and everything.

Also looks like D'spayre is there, Blackheart and Hela too.

the guy with the ruby in his chest is definately NOT cyttorak... if anybody in that scan was cyttorak it would be the RED OUTLINE and glowing eyes right under shuma in the top picture 😉

Originally posted by KillAll
the guy with the ruby in his chest is definately NOT cyttorak... if anybody in that scan was cyttorak it would be the RED OUTLINE and glowing eyes right under shuma in the top picture 😉

Oh but it is. You can even compare the picture of him in that scan to his appearance in the Uncanny X-men issue where they visit his realm!

lol what if Odin temporarily became avatar of Cytorrak inside the destroyer armor

Cytorrak was definitely present during that meeting. Mephisto even mentions his name when calling out the Hell Lords.

i stand corrected... i wasnt aware that they changed cyttoraks appearance AGAIN...

i've been outta the comic book scene for a while lol. what happened after that scan where they told cyttorak his avatar betrayed him?

Originally posted by KillAll
i stand corrected... i wasnt aware that they changed cyttoraks appearance AGAIN...

i've been outta the comic book scene for a while lol. what happened after that scan where they told cyttorak his avatar betrayed him?

Cain Marko got excommunicated from what I remember.

Originally posted by zopzop
You have to understand something Stoic, for the past few decades it's Asgard >>>>>>>>>>>>>all other powers and principalities in Marvel. Only recently has Pak (?) begun to bring up other pantheons in power. For example, during the Fear Itself arc (that Sr and Leo are referring too with Cytorrak being in hell), Odin wanted to annihilate the Earth to end the Serpent. But Zeus stood up to him and prevented that plan from going through. Now it looks like they are finally giving the Olympians some respect over at Marvel. We'll see how long this lasts.

can I see the scans of zeus standing up to Odin buddy?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
can I see the scans of zeus standing up to Odin buddy?

Odin wanted to annihilate the Earth to stop the Serpent from drawing power from peoples fears. He's done it before (Odin wiping the Earth clean that is).

Zeus stepped in and said, not only no, but hell no. They had an "argument" and the matter was settled. He didn't wipe the Earth and the Serpent fiasco was considered an internal matter for the Asgardians.

You can clearly see they were doing more than just talking, Odin had his spear and everything. And apparently no other Skyfather jumped in. So it was strictly between Odin and Zeus.

What? The plan to wipe Earth clean didn't stop because the other Skyfathers disagreed, Odin would have done it anyways but Thor convinced him to stay his hand and let him face the Serpent first.

I know Zeus doesn't have that many feats but common.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? The plan to wipe Earth clean didn't stop because the other Skyfathers disagreed, Odin would have done it anyways but Thor convinced him to stay his hand and let him face the Serpent first.

I know Zeus doesn't have that many feats but common.

Wasn't it stated that after that incident, the matter would be considered an internal Asgardian problem? If so and Odin did indeed intent to go ahead and annihilate life on Earth, wouldn't he be in breach of his agreement?

Originally posted by zopzop
Wasn't it stated that after that incident, the matter would be considered an internal Asgardian problem? If so and Odin did indeed intent to go ahead and annihilate life on Earth, wouldn't he be in breach of his agreement?

I don't remember the specifics but I do know that Odin was going to go ahead and wipe away humanity anyways, his plans didn't change just because Zeus disagreed.

Without double checking, I'd say that the council sided with Odin which is why it was considered an internal Asgardian matter. The Skyfathers adhere to Odin as their leader and if it came down to a pissing contest, Olympus isn't winning.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't remember the specifics but I do know that Odin was going to go ahead and wipe away humanity anyways, his plans didn't change just because Zeus disagreed.

Without double checking, I'd say that the council sided with Odin which is why it was considered an internal Asgardian matter. The Skyfathers adhere to Odin as their leader and if it came down to a pissing contest, Olympus isn't winning.

Zeus only backed down when the other Godheads took Odin's side and agreed that this was an internal Asgardian affair and that if humanity was wiped as a result of it, they could always make more.

The Olypmians didn't press the issue, not because they feared Asgard but because they feared ALL the other Godheads would jump them.

Like I said, they sided with Odin. Also, why are you so sure Zeus shut his mouth (Shouldn't have gotten uppity in the first place) only because the other Godheads agreed with Odin?

For the record, Zeus followed Odin's lead as well:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like I said, they sided with Odin. Also, why are you so sure Zeus shut his mouth (Shouldn't have gotten uppity in the first place) only because the other Godheads agreed with Odin?

i hope you dont think zeus is scared of Odin.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
because as the scan said because all the pantheons were sided with odin.

i hope you dont think zeus is scared of Odin.

I understand that the Pantheons adhered to Odin, but I don't know why his so sure it's the only reason Zeus backed down. Is there a scan that I've missed or is he only speculating?

Scared? I don't think his scared, but I know he respects Odin, could be he was simply convinced by the All-Father and so followed his lead like Hermes said.