Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Since always. thats the advantage of it, it far more malleable, cheaper and much easier to come by.No it wouldent of. Secondary is the most common and is often referred to as simply adamatium.
No need for a big arguement. It the most common type and it malleable. there zero reason to assume it the most rare type that is not malleable at all but some how got magically turned into a net. your simply reaching.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganAnd it's malleable enough to make a net... IYO? And don't so "yes because it's been made into a net", because I'll just use the same logic to say that primary is malleable enough to make into a net because it happened.
Since always. thats the advantage of it, it far more malleable, cheaper and much easier to come by.No it wouldent of. Secondary is the most common and is often referred to as simply adamatium.
No need for a big arguement. It the most common type and it malleable. there zero reason to assume it the most rare type that is not malleable at all but some how got magically turned into a net. your simply reaching.
Secondary is referred to as secondary.
"Hey guys, they invented a term to weaker adamantium, and here's the kicker, they must have invented it so they never had to use the term again! So obviously all adamantium that ever gets broken ever... even by skyfather level power is obviously secondary adamantium... because they invented the term!"
"Did they use the term?"
"No... but it was broken, so therefore it was secondary."
"..."
You're reaching. You have no proof it wasn't primary besides "malleable" and secondary is referred to as "adamantium". All this overwhelming proof that it was secondary is so overwhelming that it made me overwhelmed.
And... done here. Let's see how this turns out.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganBut how do you know he wasn't that powerful then? Maybe he wasn't intended to be but we don't KNOW that. He basically no sold everything Pete threw at him. Nothing wrong with the fact that Pete put up a fight. ST was officially upgraded. Morlun wasn't. We just didn't see his upper limit in SM issues. IMO walking through missiles like that shows he can take anything Rulk can throw at him.
Because they basically are two different characters. Morlun that fought spiderman was significantly less powerful. they gave him a big boost. If he fought Rulk at the level he was when he foguht Spiderman he get beasted. There be little he could do. However since his boost in power the fight a lot more interesting. (yes I undertsand there the same character but it very clear he was not originally intended to possess the level of power he did in black panther issue in contrast with his spiderman apaearances. Similar to how sabre-tooth classic is the same character technically, buthave very different levels of power. Same goes for numerous other characters)I am not that impressed by vibranium missles and I think Rulk could in a single bunch exceed that out put.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And it's malleable enough to make a net... IYO? And don't so "yes because it's been made into a net", because I'll just use the same logic to say that primary is malleable enough to make into a net because it happened.
My arguement was never that it was made into a net so that why it more malleable, it because it is more malleable which is why it was made into a net. It has always been malleable while Primary adamatium is not. Fact your ignorant of this is not fault of mine.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Primary isn't malleable enough to make into a net.
I know it isent, i been telling u this repeatedly and yet you insist that it primary adamatium.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Secondary isn't malleable enough to make into a net. However it happened. Deal with it.
Suspension of disbelief makes things much more enjoyable.
Omega red tentacles are made from a form of secondary adamatium, they very much as malleable as a net would be. So what were u saying again?
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Secondary is referred to as secondary.
"Hey guys, they invented a term to weaker adamantium, and here's the kicker, they must have invented it so they never had to use the term again! So obviously all adamantium that ever gets broken ever... even by skyfather level power is obviously secondary adamantium... because they invented the term!"
"Did they use the term?"
"No... but it was broken, so therefore it was secondary."
"..."
Object made out of primary adamatium have been stated as primary adamatium.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
You're reaching. You have no proof it wasn't primary besides "malleable" and secondary is referred to as "adamantium". All this overwhelming proof that it was secondary is so overwhelming that it made me overwhelmed.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And... done here. Let's see how this turns out.
Originally posted by SamZED
But how do you know he wasn't that powerful then? Maybe he wasn't intended to be but we don't KNOW that. He basically no sold everything Pete threw at him. Nothing wrong with the fact that Pete put up a fight. ST was officially upgraded. Morlun wasn't. We just didn't see his upper limit in SM issues. IMO walking through missiles like that shows he can take anything Rulk can throw at him.
ST was not official upgraded. He was reconnt just like morlon. he went form only have anamalictic nature into having superhuman attributes and a healing factor. marvel never one officially upgraded him from classic version into wolverine villain. They did it much like with morlun, they jsut made him way more powerful with out stating a reason.
How is walking throw missles make him be able to take what Rulk throws at him? you do understand that all those missiles combined fail in comparison to class 100 attacks right?
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganBut that's the thing, Morlun wasnt retconned. I agree there was a diffeference. In BP issues he simply showed his upper limit of durability. And since his upper limit was never shown in his fight with SM (and since there was no official retcon) we HAVE to assume he always was that durable even if he originally wasnt intended to. Dont get me wrong, Dum Dum. I just dont see a point in seperating the character when one showing doesnt controdict the other. And im just saying that the fact that Spider-man put up a fight against him doesnt mean he was less powerfull. Spider-man has a history of putting up fights against characters on that level.
becuase there was clear difference in how he was potrayed. Sam common now u can't honestly tell me there is not a significant different in how he was potrayed in his fight with spiderman and wankadan.ST was not official upgraded. He was reconnt just like morlon. he went form only have anamalictic nature into having superhuman attributes and a healing factor. marvel never one officially upgraded him from classic version into wolverine villain. They did it much like with morlun, they jsut made him way more powerful with out stating a reason.
How is walking throw missles make him be able to take what Rulk throws at him? you do understand that all those missiles combined fail in comparison to class 100 attacks right?
Hmm.. maybe 100 vibranium missiles sound beter on paper.. but I always assumed they'd make more damage than ordinary punches. Even class 100 ones. Also Morlun can go intangible (vanish or whatever that thing he does)
Originally posted by carver9It was pretty much the same as when Nuul ripped the net (although not as easy).
Was there anything brought up about Morlun ripping "secondary" adamantium or is this a KMC myth because they don't like the fact that people are strong enough to rip adamantium?
And they're trying to take that away Carver.
Originally posted by carver9The book just said "adamantium", nothing about it being secondary. There are reasons why people believe its secondary, but tbh I dont believe the writer cared much, he simply wanted to show that the character is crazy powerful and decided "Hey, why dont I have him rip an adamantium net, that'd be cool and impressive". Sooo...
Was there anything brought up about Morlun ripping "secondary" adamantium or is this a KMC myth because they don't like the fact that people are strong enough to rip adamantium?
But if it isn't stated on panel as being secondary adamantium, then wouldn't it be judged as Primary until stated otherwise. We can't just go off of an assumption because we don't like it. And why in the hell would one of the richest peeps (Black Panther) buy secondary adamantium? WTF. That's like saying his Vibranium was made out of a coffee shop..kind of disrespectful if you ask me.
Originally posted by carver9I agree. 👆 until stated otherwise, its primary.
But if it isn't stated on panel as being secondary adamantium, then wouldn't it be judged as Primary until stated otherwise. We can't just go off of an assumption because we don't like it. And why in the hell would one of the richest peeps (Black Panther) buy secondary adamantium? WTF. That's like saying his Vibranium was made Umar coffee shop..kind of disrespectful if you ask me.
Originally posted by carver9Im actually thinking to write a letter and find out for sure from the writer. Cant be that hard.
But if it isn't stated on panel as being secondary adamantium, then wouldn't it be judged as Primary until stated otherwise. We can't just go off of an assumption because we don't like it. And why in the hell would one of the richest peeps (Black Panther) buy secondary adamantium? WTF. That's like saying his Vibranium was made Umar coffee shop..kind of disrespectful if you ask me.
Originally posted by carver9Carver, I agree with you 100%
But if it isn't stated on panel as being secondary adamantium, then wouldn't it be judged as Primary until stated otherwise. We can't just go off of an assumption because we don't like it. And why in the hell would one of the richest peeps (Black Panther) buy secondary adamantium? WTF. That's like saying his Vibranium was made out of a coffee shop..kind of disrespectful if you ask me.
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