Your reaction

1.lets say..the world trade disaster was a strategy by government to have citizens support war effort .the same tatic which hitler succesfully used to have his people support war (this part is true)

what is you reaction?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.lets say..the world trade disaster was a strategy by government to have citizens support war effort .the same tatic which hitler succesfully used to have his people support war (this part is true)

what is you reaction?

He dressed up a few German soldiers in Polish uniforms and made them attack a border post of no particular value, didn't really fool anyone.

As for the question, I think I would be shocked not that the government would do it but shocked that they were that competent. I'd wonder why their Machiavellian brilliance fizzled out when it came to planning the actual invasions and the public relations surrounding the occupation.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
As for the question, I think I would be shocked not that the government would do it but shocked that they were that competent. I'd wonder why their Machiavellian brilliance fizzled out when it came to planning the actual invasions and the public relations surrounding the occupation.

When power and monetary profits are at stake, governments can be very competent. This is not a war on terrorism. The Patriot Act did not target terrorists. This is a war on the American people. And they had trouble hiding the fact that they lied about the WMDs. That's how the public relations died out.

iirc he bombed a captial building(or some important building) and in his speach he blamed it on terrerost

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
When power and monetary profits are at stake, governments can be very competent. This is not a war on terrorism. The Patriot Act did not target terrorists. This is a war on the American people. And they had trouble hiding the fact that they lied about the WMDs. That's how the public relations died out.

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your position.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
iirc he bombed a captial building(or some important building) and in his speach he blamed it on terrerost

yes im sure of it. can someone confirm this?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wait...you think that they could pull off a 9/11 conspiracy as suggested by the Truthers yet couldn't fabricate WMDs in Iraq? Couldn't have taken a few of their nukes from the stockpile and buried them in the Iraqi Desert?

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your position.

Nope.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yes im sure of it. can someone confirm this?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i think if it is as easy as you make it seem it would of happend already...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
iirc he bombed a captial building(or some important building) and in his speach he blamed it on terrerost

The Reichstag, their Congress, was burned to the ground. A man named van der Lubbe, a passionate communist with a history of setting things on fire and hating the fascist government, was in the city at the time. The Berlin police arrested him, tortured him until he confessed, gave him a trial, then executed him.

Due to the blur of history there's no way to know who set the fire. Van der Lubbe being set up and van der Lubbe doing it himself are both equally reasonable conclusions to draw. Hitler, naturally, chose the version that served his own ends. How about you?

yes thats it ^

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If you're sure of it why can't you confirm it?

What do you think I think is easy? I'm saying if the government was such a consummate schemer to pull off the alleged 9/11 conspiracy then planting WMDs would be child's play by comparison.

About he burying the nukes thing...

I don't think it was an inside job. Why wouldn't they just bury nerve gas bombs (also WMDs which Sadam used and we had intimate knowledge of the working details of his (Saddam's) nerve gas weapons that he actually used) in a likely facility in Iraq? That would have been relatively easy to pull off.

It would seem much more obvious that the US Government would be more worried about being seen as incompetent than perpetuating a massively complex inside job and then botching a little WMD scenario. More likely, they didn't want to look incompetent in from the American people so they kept some things secret about the 9/11 attacks like...the attackers setup nanothermite packs on the support structures of the buildings so that a fire would cause them the burn out collapsing the buildings? Makes more sense that the government would cover that up because it would "scare" the America people on how very easy it is to execute terror plots. That's just my unfounded theory on the whole thing.

Oh...and the pentagon attack was most likely a missile. 😐

No inside jobs. Just a well planned out terror attack that the administration of the last decade did not want to own up to (the extent of how easy and nasty the plan was...not that it was complicated).

youll be suprised to how many dumb things the government did

president bush grandfather worked for nazis(Fact)

And JFK Sr. opted to support the Germans against the Soviets, should the Soviets become too powerful. Big deal.

If 9/11 was an inside job by the American government, the execution of which was designed to push America in to invading the Middle East for money, then I would say they deserved every dollar they made. The planting of bombs, acquiring the planes, alerting all the important people, falsifying everything, kidnapping, coercing, eliminating, and disposing of several hundred airline passengers, the sheer amount of planning, practice, and training... would take thousands of people. People that needed to be recruited and trained (by yet more people), and have managed to conceal their secrecy and espionage from everybody else, to this very day...

The logistics of such an operation would be mind-boggling, even without factoring in human error. The fact that not a single operative f*cked up in any way, and the whole plan went off perfectly... I can honestly say such an endeavor would be nothing short of the greatest artistic masterpiece in human history. The artists themselves would deserve every reward they could possible reap.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
president bush grandfather worked for nazis(Fact)

Writing (Fact) in place of a period is not a persuasive argument(Fact)

lol at this thread. Don't we still have a conspiracy forum?

To answer the OP, it's impossible for us to put ourselves in that position with any degree of accuracy. How we think we would act, how we perceive those actions internally, and how we would actually respond are all very different things. Any attempt at an answer would be baseless speculation.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.lets say..the world trade disaster was a strategy by government to have citizens support war effort .the same tatic which hitler succesfully used to have his people support war (this part is true)

what is you reaction?

I would not be surprise about the World trade disaster being a set up but as for the Hitler thing I would be surprise.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.lets say..the world trade disaster was a strategy by government to have citizens support war effort .the same tatic which hitler succesfully used to have his people support war (this part is true)

what is you reaction?

How stupid!

That is the main reason I don't believe such things. If they wanted that, there are far easier ways to do that.

If they did it easier then people might notice if they did it this way then people wont. I just want to say that I doubt it if it was was but no knows.