Originally posted by inimalistIs this toward me? Im not a truther
to answer the OP: If I found out that my government was literally designing huge plots to kill its own citizens in spectacular ways, for whatever reason, the only rational answer is violent revolution.I'd actually challenge any Truther on this point as well. If you truly believe that this is the monster you are fighting against, WTF? If you really, REALLY, believe the US government is needlessly killing its own citizens on mass like this, making stupid YouTube videos and arguing on message boards is retarded (also dangerous). Why aren't you fighting? Cowardice? Ineptitude? Sloth?
2. Of course they would make videos to inform other people of there beliefes, why would they revolt fight on there own??
3. How do you know there not fighting???
And although i may not believe this comspiracy i do believe the government is a "monster" look at the Syphilis shit they did or the FBI first introducing cocain to the us.
Originally posted by Digi
Also there's anti-conspiracy books that debunk conspiracies. So the issue IS being confronted and debunked when applicable. Lord Z, if you're claiming the debate is being put under wraps, you're not doing a good job of searching for it.
The de-bunkers are confronting the issue that's true but what makes their experts any less credible than the ones who are claiming conspiracy?
I'll answer, because the government said it was terrorists we should believe them - George Bush said so too so that makes it doubly true and anyone who has a different opinion is not a patriot and...
You see my point. De-bunkers have the unique position of preaching to the very crowd that the 9/11 theorists claim have been brainwashed by the media. I'm not saying this is true but the claims of possible media manipulation is one of the arguments and there are examples of this which are curious to say the least. Conspiracies are compelling and they draw you in at times I agree but when I see some visual examples which make me think 'hmm... that doesn't look or feel right' I'm inclined to believe that. If the subject is too technical for me I take both arguments at face value only, no further.
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Claims what? The government said it was terrorists, that's what I meant.
yes, but your implication is that everyone who doesn't think 9-11 was an inside job is appealing to the government or calling you unpatriotic. I'm asking you, who is saying "The government said it was terrorists, so it is"?
Originally posted by inimalist
yes, but your implication is that everyone who doesn't think 9-11 was an inside job is appealing to the government or calling you unpatriotic. I'm asking you, who is saying "The government said it was terrorists, so it is"?
I never said that to be a truth, I meant that it is a perception based on all the names and insults that the theorists have had to put up with for their beliefs. The tv shows and videos where important parts of their arguments are cut out or sneered at and never completely challenged.
You can tell the way I wrote that whole sentence that it is a perception and not an absolute otherwise I wouldn't have framed it that way.